DX12 - Anyone been able to get a decent performance?

[#Plungerhead]

Morning all.

Currently running 5600x / 3070ti / 16GB ram @3200mhz. I've been struggling to get a consistent experience when using DX12. (1440p)

I've used the below settings, made some adjustments (not going below high setting on any of them). i also bench mark around Novagrad as that seems to be one of the most stressful areas of the game and im getting around 60fps-75 fps. it just dosnt feel smooth at all. So for the majority of the time ive been staying in DX 11 where the performance is much more enjoyable.

Framerate limit: Unlimited
Display mode: Fullscreen
Background characters: High
Shadow quality: Ultra
Water quality: Ultra
Foliage visibility: High
Grass density: Ultra
Texture quality: Ultra
Detail level: Ultra
Motion blur: Off
Bloom: Off
Depth of field: On
Chromatic Aberration: On
Vignetting: On
Light shafts: On
Camera lens effects: Off

has anyone been able to get a good experience using a 3060/ 3070/3070ti? or is DX12
not optimised at the moment?

[Orion Invictus]

With RT off and everything else maxed (except depth of field, bloom, etc.) I get AT LEAST 90 FPS under all circumstances, occasionally going into the low 120s.

With RT on and maxed, the framerate is much more consistent, but hovers around 40-50 FPS.

EDIT: Forgot, I have a 3070 with a Ryzen 5 5600x, running at 1440p with DLSS on quality.

[#Plungerhead]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

With RT off and everything else maxed (except depth of field, bloom, etc.) I get AT LEAST 90 FPS under all circumstances, occasionally going into the low 120s.

With RT on and maxed, the framerate is much more consistent, but hovers around 40-50 FPS.

EDIT: Forgot, I have a 3070 with a Ryzen 5 5600x.

is this at 1440p?

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Wight34:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

With RT off and everything else maxed (except depth of field, bloom, etc.) I get AT LEAST 90 FPS under all circumstances, occasionally going into the low 120s.

With RT on and maxed, the framerate is much more consistent, but hovers around 40-50 FPS.

EDIT: Forgot, I have a 3070 with a Ryzen 5 5600x.

is this at 1440p?

Yes, though with DLSS enabled (Quality). Forgot to add that too.

[#Plungerhead]

ive just replicated those settings and getting around 80-90fps . thanks for that.
However when i go to Novagrad Hierarch square, im dropping to 60-70fps. do you get the same result?

[Tomas9970]

Ok, Virtual Super Resolution was being nice so I could do some above 1080p benchmarks on a Ryzen 5 3600 and RX6700xt (3060ti competitor).

Settings:
DX12
RT off
TAAU antialiasing
Hairworks off
Usual stuff at Ultra

On the Hierarch Square in Novigrad, 1440p gives me around 60-70 fps, 4K brings it down to pretty stable 50 fps. When running at 1080p (which is my native resolution), I can get up to 80-90 fps.

Note: There may have been VSR acting up. 1440p test only had 80% GPU usage and 1080p performance was getting crippled as well when it was even enabled (was fine without it as shown).

[#Plungerhead]

Originally posted by Tomas9970:

Ok, Virtual Super Resolution was being nice so could do some above 1080p benchmarks on a Ryzen 5 3600 and RX6700xt (3060ti competitor).

Settings:
DX12
RT off
TAAU antialiasing
Hairworks off
Usual stuff at Ultra

On the Hierarch Square in Novigrad, 1440p gives me around 60-70 fps, 4K brings it down to pretty stable 50 fps. When running at 1080p (which is my native resolution), I can get up to 80-90 fps.

Note: There may have been VSR acting up. 1440p test only had 80% GPU usage and 1080p performance was getting crippled as well when it was even enabled (was fine without it as shown).

thanks for this. seems im right on the book figures.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Wight34:

ive just replicated those settings and getting around 80-90fps . thanks for that.
However when i go to Novagrad Hierarch square, im dropping to 60-70fps. do you get the same result?

I'll need to check. I only went to Novigrad to get some Witcher gear blueprints so far and left shortly afterward.

[Tracido]

Yes, but I have a RX 7900 XTX and a lot of .ini/hex editor/UEFI bios/control panel experience..

Nothing is turned down, RT is all on, and I can even use TAAU with RSR & FSR2 at Quality, BUT I ALSO have SAM enabled (Resize BAR), AND I have a Freesync monitor, as well.

Completely playable FPS that simply just doesn't quite hit 60, and Anti-lag(AMD control panel settings) with all that plus outside Vsync at the control panel and viola, gaming at max on a card not even designed for 4090 level Ray Tracing.

Oh one more tip, if you turn off in game dynamic resolution (because of micro stutter similar to the issue with Vsync in game), use Boost in the AMD control panel, it does the same thing without issues. I just want my graphics maxed, so I won't be using it.

[GoreTiger]

2070 super /ryzen 7

I get near flawless performance with everything on ultra with DX12...While ray tracing is off.
If I try to turn RT on high or ultra, I get big frame drops.

[Orion Invictus]

I'm getting 60-70 FPS in Novigrad, but mostly low 60s. Occasionally I get 80 FPS, but that's rare.

[Tomas9970]

Got so caught in the benchmarking that I almost completely missed the original question. Setting an FPS limit can remove a lot of stutters if the framerate is frequently jumping above and below the limit.

After experimenting a bit more, 1440p with a 60 fps cap is indeed super smooth so I hope that helps.

[Graf Erik]

I've been using dx12 since the update.

I use a 3080 and a 4k monitor. I have everyting on ultra and without RT and its running absolutely perfect, meaning i have constant 60fps which is the maximum my monitor can handle anyway. So yeah, I use limited framerate, and thats running really smooth.

Honestly, the story with RT is the same here as with ALMOST any other game. Yes, I can run it, yes it looks... nice...ish, but the performance drop just isn't worth it.
The only game where I ended up actually playing with RT was Cyberpunk. Not only does it run very well with it but its a setting where RT makes actually a noticable difference. If you look at what raytracing is and what it does, then you can't actually expect any benefits unless you have a scenery with lots of reflective surfaces and/or different light sources. So obvious the neon world of Cyberpunk is made for RT, while the dark-brownish medieval-fantasy world of Witcher is... not.

[Mixxer5]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

With RT off and everything else maxed (except depth of field, bloom, etc.) I get AT LEAST 90 FPS under all circumstances, occasionally going into the low 120s.

With RT on and maxed, the framerate is much more consistent, but hovers around 40-50 FPS.

EDIT: Forgot, I have a 3070 with a Ryzen 5 5600x, running at 1440p with DLSS on quality.

What the hell...? I have 3080 and same CPU, with DLSS set to Quality I'm getting 60-90 with occasional dips to 50. Granted, my resolution is 3440x1440 but it seems like disproportional difference.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Mixxer5:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

With RT off and everything else maxed (except depth of field, bloom, etc.) I get AT LEAST 90 FPS under all circumstances, occasionally going into the low 120s.

With RT on and maxed, the framerate is much more consistent, but hovers around 40-50 FPS.

EDIT: Forgot, I have a 3070 with a Ryzen 5 5600x, running at 1440p with DLSS on quality.

What the hell...? I have 3080 and same CPU, with DLSS set to Quality I'm getting 60-90 with occasional dips to 50. Granted, my resolution is 3440x1440 but it seems like disproportional difference.

That's around 35% more pixels, with a GPU that is not 35% more powerful (though I'm pretty sure it doesn't scale linearly in the first place). Stands to reason you'd get a lower framerate.

[Orion Invictus]

I just realized I was actually using FSR, not DLSS. Must've been when I was experimenting with settings.

With DLSS, I got +10 FPS in Novigrad, give or take, relative to what I said before (so 70-80, with occasional dips to high 60s).