I feel zero sympathy for Anna

[Broseph884]

She and the Baron are both terrible people and of course I'm not on the Barron's side, no excuse for domestic abuse. Yet I can't help feeling just a smidge of sympathy for the guy, while I feel none at all for Anna. Wouldn't go so far as to say she deserved what she got or anything, but yeah that's all.

[Broseph884]

İlk olarak Razin_Shah tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak TheDankSpanker tarafından gönderildi:

should've just left then, skill issue on her part

She literally tried to leave. Y'all didn't pay attention to the story at all it seems.

And she failed, so yeah, skill issue

[LordOfTheBread]

İlk olarak TheDankSpanker tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Razin_Shah tarafından gönderildi:

She literally tried to leave. Y'all didn't pay attention to the story at all it seems.

And she failed, so yeah, skill issue

That's the isue? LOL omg

[Broseph884]

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İlk olarak TheDankSpanker tarafından gönderildi:

And she failed, so yeah, skill issue

That's the isue? LOL omg

Ong ong frfr my dude

[Gryth]

The Baron is a good man, deep down. The way he metes out justice and cares for his own. All abusive behavior stems from trauma. Who knows what his childhood was like, these were hard times for most people. Then the stress and trauma of being at war for years. I feel nothing but sympathy for the Baron.

[Watereaters]

İlk olarak Gryth tarafından gönderildi:

The Baron is a good man, deep down. The way he metes out justice and cares for his own. All abusive behavior stems from trauma. Who knows what his childhood was like, these were hard times for most people. Then the stress and trauma of being at war for years. I feel nothing but sympathy for the Baron.

Not to mention that if the Baron dies, one of the daughter raping, village pillaging cut-throats he commands will take over, pretty much making everything worse (EDIT: for Velen).

[Orion Invictus]

"no excuse for domestic abuse"
"should've just left then, skill issue on her part"

Yeah, sure, whatever you say.

[LordOfTheBread]

İlk olarak Gryth tarafından gönderildi:

The Baron is a good man, deep down. The way he metes out justice and cares for his own. All abusive behavior stems from trauma. Who knows what his childhood was like, these were hard times for most people. Then the stress and trauma of being at war for years. I feel nothing but sympathy for the Baron.

Good men aren't drunks beating their wives, at least not in my definition of good men. Sure, the whole story is a redemption arc and makes you feel for him but a good man? He is a very flawed man and the situation he is in is of his own making.

[ImHelping]

İlk olarak Watereaters tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Gryth tarafından gönderildi:

The Baron is a good man, deep down. The way he metes out justice and cares for his own. All abusive behavior stems from trauma. Who knows what his childhood was like, these were hard times for most people. Then the stress and trauma of being at war for years. I feel nothing but sympathy for the Baron.

Not to mention that if the Baron dies, one of the daughter raping, village pillaging cut-throats he commands will take over, pretty much making everything worse (EDIT: for Velen).

I mean, this happens even if he lives. He carries off his wife to get treatment in.... wherever. Game world just treats it basically the same as if he died.

And then you have a boxing match with the sergeant. CLOSURE-wait no.

[Broseph884]

İlk olarak Orion Invictus tarafından gönderildi:

"no excuse for domestic abuse"
"should've just left then, skill issue on her part"

Yeah, sure, whatever you say.

Yep it is whatever I say, thanks for clearing that up 😁

[Watereaters]

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İlk olarak Watereaters tarafından gönderildi:

Not to mention that if the Baron dies, one of the daughter raping, village pillaging cut-throats he commands will take over, pretty much making everything worse (EDIT: for Velen).

I mean, this happens even if he lives. He carries off his wife to get treatment in.... wherever. Game world just treats it basically the same as if he died.

And then you have a boxing match with the sergeant. CLOSURE-wait no.

Sorry I didn't do that route yet

[Capcheeks]

Doesn't the baron become a drunk and abusive **** BECAUSE he caught her cheating on him when he came back from war? Or at least that's the way he told it. It's a shame we never got the chance to hear Anna's side of things, but maybe that's for the best. 8 years later and people are still so divisive on this quest and its characters. Absolute gold.

[Orion Invictus]

İlk olarak Capcheeks tarafından gönderildi:

Doesn't the baron become a drunk and abusive **** BECAUSE he caught her cheating on him when he came back from war? Or at least that's the way he told it. It's a shame we never got the chance to hear Anna's side of things, but maybe that's for the best. 8 years later and people are still so divisive on this quest and its characters. Absolute gold.

No, he drank before. And that's not how he told it, he explicitly says he drank before.

[GoreTiger]

İlk olarak Orion Invictus tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Capcheeks tarafından gönderildi:

Doesn't the baron become a drunk and abusive **** BECAUSE he caught her cheating on him when he came back from war? Or at least that's the way he told it. It's a shame we never got the chance to hear Anna's side of things, but maybe that's for the best. 8 years later and people are still so divisive on this quest and its characters. Absolute gold.

No, he drank before. And that's not how he told it, he explicitly says he drank before.

He may have drunk before but I don't remember any evidence that he became abusive towards her until after he caught her, And I don't remember any evidence that he ever physically abused his daughter which would point that the source of his aggression was the cheating. There are examples of him in the past at least being a carrying father and Husband, Like paying for a painting to be done with his wife and carving a doll for his daughter when they were too poor for one.

So Anna basically cheats on him multiple times and he catches her multiple times,
Baron starts drinking more heavily to cope with what his wife has done along with his experiences in the army.
Baron likely suffered from some form of PTSD and started taking it out on his wife. He gets so black out drunk that he doesn't remember abusing her most of the time and his men seem to not bring it up to him. (I can't imagine his men never heard or saw him abusing her)
She gets pregnant again, Baron prob thought it wasn't even his or something, Causes her to have a miscarriage.
This was likely the final snap that broke anna's mind and made her weak towards the crone's pull.
All the while their daughter was witnessing all of this.

In this questline there is no happy ending nomatter how much you try.
-You can save anna, But the children will be devoured. Anna's mind is broke in a state that no one knows if she'll be sane again.
-You can save the children, But then anna dies, His daughter forever hates him, He ends up hanging himself, A potentially powerful evil spirit is set free in the process.
With either choice, The baron still leaves crows perch which puts his second in command in charge, a Man who is basically a bandit leader and vows to be harsher. Nomatter what route you take, The people of velen will suffer from your choices.

In the case of who'se fault it is, It's both of theirs. Anna was a cheating harlot and the Baron started beating her instead of dumping her to the curve like she deserved.
The baron takes a heavy emotional beating from the situation, We never get to critique anna for her actions because of the situation.
So it's both anna's fault for being such a scummy wife, and the baron's fault for not walking away from her and becoming abusive instead.

[Orion Invictus]

As luck would have it, I'm playing this part of the story right now.

As the Baron tells it:
He started drinking while he was fighting as a soldier, to cope with what he saw during the war. When he finally returned, he found out that Anna had been cheating on him for three years and no longer loved him.

Once she left to be with her lover, he went to find them, killed the man, and fed him to the dogs. Anna tried to kill him with a knife, so he hit her (he says this was the first time).

Afterward, Anna tried to kill herself and him several times. She also goaded him into killing her, because she didn't want to live any more after he'd killed the man she loved, said the Baron had destroyed the idea of love for her. He says she goaded him into hitting her, possibly hoping he'd finally kill her.

Her hatred for him eventually turned into indifference, which he says was "broken by her hysteria and [my] drunkenness" (might not be an exact quote), and for three years they lived like that.

[Swordgun]

I sided with Phillip (the Bloody Baron) on the family issue after hearing his side of the story, he clearly isn't as bad as Geralt thought he was initially. Which, I find it odd that Geralt took the wheel completely and acted the way he did towards him at first knowing very little. Geralt become very hostile, he beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of him, even tried to drown him.. That was really weird considering it was not optional, CDPR didn't give the player the option on how to act there for some reason.