(Spoilers) Killing Crones after failing return to Crookback Bog? Baron, Gwent implications...

[elm]

Hey witchers.

So I have an issue. I wanted to make the Bloody Baron wait when he was heading to the swamps. Just because I didn't like his sorry ass. So I went on with the game, pushed to the next chapter and now the Return to Crookback Bog Quest is listed as failed. The Baron just seems to be missing in the swamps forever. None of the two options of him hanging himself or going to the mountains with Anna was triggered. His character entry also says "went into the swamps".

Now he is gone in any case - but the people who actually ended the quest find his unique card on his desk. Not so for me. There was only a list which I read right away and now unfortunately can't recall. Somewhere I read a post that you can win his card from an NPC - can anyone confirm this? And also has anybody ever had the same issue of the Baron just vanishing in the swamps?

Last thing I can think of is visiting his daughter in the ♥♥♥♥♥ house in Novigrad. She's supposed to be there, right?

I went back to Crookback Bog and the old oak but there are only dead bodies and no sign of the Baron, Anna or anybody else. Is this something being resolved later in the game? Or do I just have to let it go? I mean .. it would be okay for me. But considering the density of the game it's kind of strange that they would leave a story line unresolved like this?

Any help would be most appreciated!

[Living Broscillograph]

AFAIK, you can find his card on his desk only if he returned to castle. That means, he must survive in the swamps to be capable of doing so. You've seen the Crones, you know what creatures they can call (or don't know yet :P). Baron and his men got no chance without you. They are all probably dead now and who knows what happened to Baron and his wife's bodies.
As for their daughter, she went with her newfound friends to the swamps too and... they are all dead as well. Now you can only let it go. You didn't participate in that part of their story so the story went without you :)

[elm]

thanks for the reply

... and that's what I actually like about this game. But it still seems incoherent, given how interwoven the rest of the storytelling is. (I wouldn't have an issue with your approach but heck, all the time he's the tough witcher finding out everything but when he decides to find out what happened to the Baron he simply can't?)

So I can't ever complete the card game quest except when by chance I should come across and play the guy that has the Barons card? Or do I have to let go of this as well? ^^

maybe somebody can help me and knows something about that list in his office? what's its name?

[medavroog]

Originally posted by elm:

So I have an issue. I wanted to make the Bloody Baron wait when he was heading to the swamps. Just because I didn't like his sorry ♥♥♥. So I went on with the game ...

I highly recommend to select-n-listen to all the personal story conversations of the Bloody Baron ... soon one will realise he wasn't and isn't a bad man that his daughter believes him to be. In the very fact, the bad person is his wife ...

[elm]

Originally posted by medavroog:

Originally posted by elm:

So I have an issue. I wanted to make the Bloody Baron wait when he was heading to the swamps. Just because I didn't like his sorry ♥♥♥. So I went on with the game ...

I highly recommend to select-n-listen to all the personal story conversations of the Bloody Baron ... soon one will realise he wasn't and isn't a bad man that his daughter believes him to be. In the very fact, the bad person is his wife ...

well I've had that conversation with him and I still think he's a self righteous sucker. maybe that's why it's just fair that I won't be getting his card ^^

[elm]

well I followed every part of the dialogues with him and I also saw the scene with his lost child. yes, it is really intense and I liked it a lot.

thing is I wasn't annoyed by all that but rather his self righteousness. why would his behavior all of a sudden be justified just because Anna hooked up with somebody else? I still don't feel sorry for the prick.

I wasn't rushing or anything of the like, not even skipped parts. I just decided to make him wait. if the story goes on regardless I don't mind, actually I like that about the game a lot. so when I don't have access then it's fair enough.

I'm not complaining, I just figured it's strange to not get all of the velen cards because of that.

[medavroog]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

If you take up with someone else while still married, while still living in his house, while still sleeping in his bed ...

... also, whilst using his incomes [when he risks his life on the battle-field].

Just imagine ... you are a service man sent off to war, a command that cannot be disobeyed. Each time, you send home your money to your beloved ... years later, you return home only to find the biyatch riding some dude in your bed inside your house drinking and eating your wine and food whilst enjoying pleasures on your income ... the Bloody Baron is far from a monster or priick.

[elm]

I get what you guys are arguing and just the fact that we're discussing morals here is why this game is so awesome.

I also agree with the part about his wife being a liar and how that shows terrible character. but, that being said, I'm of the opinion that his reaction is still self righteous and lacks dignity just as much. yes, in the end he tries to come around but I didn't see why I should immediately be his helper to do so.

the story got me from thinking 'he is a prick' to 'oh well, let him have his reasons' but still I was far from being sympathetic for him.

[elm]

so, asides from the morals: just keep playing the game, move to the next chapter and after it, the card will be in the barons office.