The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

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Dr Coconut May 18, 2016 @ 2:32am
Does the paid dlc add anything to the base game?
Or is it just extra content for after the main game?

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KoalafiedKiller May 18, 2016 @ 2:53am 
These aren't DLCs, they are expansions. They expand the base game. Their stories are stand alone but the gameplay/world is intertwined into the base game. So yes, all gear you find in the expansion quests/areas is useable in the base game.
Dr Coconut May 18, 2016 @ 2:57am 
Originally posted by KoalafiedKiller:
These aren't DLCs, they are expansions. They expand the base game. Their stories are stand alone but the gameplay/world is intertwined into the base game. So yes, all gear you find in the expansion quests/areas is useable in the base game.

I meant would the expantions add anything to my first playthough is the main game like new wepons/quests/places to explore or are they something strictly for after the story of the base game
KoalafiedKiller May 18, 2016 @ 3:06am 
I answered your question. Yes they do, but they are high level quests so you won't be able to do them until later in the game, but they are always available.
GUY May 18, 2016 @ 3:23am 
Most people tell you to only do the dlc after you've beaten the game anyways and to me it seems you're asking if its worth getting both right now and I would say no, just wait till you beat the game and the dlc's will probably be on sale by then anyways.
Bite May 18, 2016 @ 3:25am 
Originally posted by Dr Coconut:
Originally posted by KoalafiedKiller:
These aren't DLCs, they are expansions. They expand the base game. Their stories are stand alone but the gameplay/world is intertwined into the base game. So yes, all gear you find in the expansion quests/areas is useable in the base game.

I meant would the expantions add anything to my first playthough is the main game like new wepons/quests/places to explore or are they something strictly for after the story of the base game

Well, we technically can only truly speak for Hearts of Stone, but I imagine that the same rules will apply for Blood and Wine.

Firstly, the expansions themselves are pretty flexible as far as timeline goes, they could happen during, before or after the main storyline (in some cases, though I myself wouldn't count them as happening after, but it's mostly due to some of the things the endings of the game bring to the table).

Will you miss anything in your main game if you leave the expansions for later? absolutely not. Everything plays out normally.

However, as far as Hearts of Stone is concerned, if you absolutely want to know how to get the best endings of the base game then you may find the answers for reaching said endings at the end of Hearts of Stone but only if you play this before you reach a pivotal point in the main story and only if you make certain decisions during the course of Hearts of Stone.

So to put it bluntly, you won't miss anything per se, but you may find some little details through the expansions as far as the main story go, but it rarely goes beyond nods or, even light spoilers in this case.

However, as far as items, weapons and armor go, the expansions do add some new things. Hearts of Stone alone adds several magical items with special effects (though you can only get one per playthrough, and even then it's by making certain choices), armor and weapons sets (even a pair of glasses) and a new way of enchanting armor (which changes the way your weapons behave a bit). Blood and Wine will bring a lot more of these changes which we already know for sure. So in that regard they can add some flavour to your main playthrough.
Y Ddraig Ddu May 18, 2016 @ 3:25am 
Originally posted by KoalafiedKiller:
These aren't DLCs, they are expansions. They expand the base game. Their stories are stand alone but the gameplay/world is intertwined into the base game. So yes, all gear you find in the expansion quests/areas is useable in the base game.
Don't play CDP-R's silly semantics game. Many DLCs are expansion packs. All modern expansion packs are DLCs.

Ballad of Gay Tony and Lost & the Damned and Dawnguard and Dragonborn and Knights of the Nine and Undead Nightmare and Leviathan and Citadel and many, many more are all officially listed as "DLC," but they are just as "expansion-y" as at least Hearts of Stone (and I'm assuming B&W).

You could never pre-order an "expansion pass" before even the main game existed back in "the good ol' days" anyway, and it's also absurd to think that those good old days were really all that good because there were tons and tons and tons of awful "full-blooded expansion packs" too (just off the top of my head, Starcraft: Insurrection, Starcraft: Retribution, Red Alert: Counterstrike, Red Alert: The Aftermath, Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter and many, many more were a total cash-grabs).

We're in the modern gaming era. It's a game heavily if not primarily distributed digitally on the PC.

Blood & Wine and Hearts of Stone are premium DLC. End of.
Last edited by Y Ddraig Ddu; May 18, 2016 @ 3:29am
Ophan May 18, 2016 @ 3:33am 
Not sure for Blood and Wine but Heart of Stone does had a new Craftsman which you can access in the main game as he is in the main map however it does require a relatively high level to complete the first quest for in during the first playthough (30 or so I think otherwise you might get butchered).
RedAugustus May 18, 2016 @ 3:56am 
Originally posted by Dr Coconut:
Originally posted by KoalafiedKiller:
These aren't DLCs, they are expansions. They expand the base game. Their stories are stand alone but the gameplay/world is intertwined into the base game. So yes, all gear you find in the expansion quests/areas is useable in the base game.

I meant would the expantions add anything to my first playthough is the main game like new wepons/quests/places to explore or are they something strictly for after the story of the base game

They do add things that you can access later in the game at a higher level. I'd bet a penny that all dlc and so forth will be on sale june 23rd, which is the steam sale thatll last two weeks. Also, I wouldnt really pay much heed to ydraig. Lots of uncontrolled negativity towards this game.
KoalafiedKiller May 18, 2016 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by ydraig:
Originally posted by KoalafiedKiller:
These aren't DLCs, they are expansions. They expand the base game. Their stories are stand alone but the gameplay/world is intertwined into the base game. So yes, all gear you find in the expansion quests/areas is useable in the base game.
Don't play CDP-R's silly semantics game. Many DLCs are expansion packs. All modern expansion packs are DLCs.

Ballad of Gay Tony and Lost & the Damned and Dawnguard and Dragonborn and Knights of the Nine and Undead Nightmare and Leviathan and Citadel and many, many more are all officially listed as "DLC," but they are just as "expansion-y" as at least Hearts of Stone (and I'm assuming B&W).

You could never pre-order an "expansion pass" before even the main game existed back in "the good ol' days" anyway, and it's also absurd to think that those good old days were really all that good because there were tons and tons and tons of awful "full-blooded expansion packs" too (just off the top of my head, Starcraft: Insurrection, Starcraft: Retribution, Red Alert: Counterstrike, Red Alert: The Aftermath, Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter and many, many more were a total cash-grabs).

We're in the modern gaming era. It's a game heavily if not primarily distributed digitally on the PC.

Blood & Wine and Hearts of Stone are premium DLC. End of.
I consider all of those expansions even if they are labeled DLC. It has nothing to do with CDPR's semantics. To me DLC is trivial content like weapon packs,skins, single missions, etc etc. An expansion adds all the same stuff trivial DLCs do but also add story content, bigger locations, and gameplay elements.

The 16 free DLC that CDPR released ARE DLCs because they are so small in nature.

The only reason I even brought up the term expansion was to refer to how it expands the base game. Some games offer addtional content that are 100% stand alone and in no affect the main game, they're usually accessed from the main menu instead of organically in the game world. The point I was trying to make is that HoS is NOT that type of content, although technically it can be if you select HoS Only from the menu. Leave it to CDPR to give us the best of both worlds.
RedAugustus May 18, 2016 @ 10:53pm 
Originally posted by KoalafiedKiller:
Originally posted by ydraig:
Don't play CDP-R's silly semantics game. Many DLCs are expansion packs. All modern expansion packs are DLCs.

Ballad of Gay Tony and Lost & the Damned and Dawnguard and Dragonborn and Knights of the Nine and Undead Nightmare and Leviathan and Citadel and many, many more are all officially listed as "DLC," but they are just as "expansion-y" as at least Hearts of Stone (and I'm assuming B&W).

You could never pre-order an "expansion pass" before even the main game existed back in "the good ol' days" anyway, and it's also absurd to think that those good old days were really all that good because there were tons and tons and tons of awful "full-blooded expansion packs" too (just off the top of my head, Starcraft: Insurrection, Starcraft: Retribution, Red Alert: Counterstrike, Red Alert: The Aftermath, Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter and many, many more were a total cash-grabs).

We're in the modern gaming era. It's a game heavily if not primarily distributed digitally on the PC.

Blood & Wine and Hearts of Stone are premium DLC. End of.
I consider all of those expansions even if they are labeled DLC. It has nothing to do with CDPR's semantics. To me DLC is trivial content like weapon packs,skins, single missions, etc etc. An expansion adds all the same stuff trivial DLCs do but also add story content, bigger locations, and gameplay elements.

The 16 free DLC that CDPR released ARE DLCs because they are so small in nature.

The only reason I even brought up the term expansion was to refer to how it expands the base game. Some games offer addtional content that are 100% stand alone and in no affect the main game, they're usually accessed from the main menu instead of organically in the game world. The point I was trying to make is that HoS is NOT that type of content, although technically it can be if you select HoS Only from the menu. Leave it to CDPR to give us the best of both worlds.

I agree and well said between dlc and expansions. That pretty much sums up everything.
Y Ddraig Ddu May 19, 2016 @ 12:43am 
Originally posted by Ranger:
Originally posted by ydraig:
Don't play CDP-R's silly semantics game. Many DLCs are expansion packs. All modern expansion packs are DLCs.

Maybe you should take your own advice, because you are clearly the one playing semantics. And very pointlessly so. Expansions have been around a lot longer than DLC and what CDPR is producing are very clearly more in line with expansion packs of old than with modern DLC.
No. Hearts of Stone was absolutely not in line with "expansion packs of old" in any way. You never had full expansion packs that took place almost entirely in pre-exising areas from the main game and released in such a rapid fashion. It was DLC through-and-through, albeit above average DLC.

I'd be willing to give Blood & Wine the benefit of the doubt, however, and say that it DOES resemble an expansion pack, more or less. To about the same degree as Far Harbor.

But definitely not HoS, nor the "expansion pass" model has anything to do with games of old.
billy May 19, 2016 @ 12:53am 
Ydraig why are you arguing with people about such a pointless thing ?, semantics taken to the next level.
RedAugustus May 19, 2016 @ 1:02am 
Originally posted by billy:
Ydraig why are you arguing with people about such a pointless thing ?, semantics taken to the next level.

Just ignore him and try not to go off topic and feed him anymore. But on topic with dlc/expansions I do believe HoS was an expansion and as will Blood and Wine. All of the extra quests etc you can pick up are dlc (as in small add-ons).
Y Ddraig Ddu May 19, 2016 @ 1:28am 
Originally posted by billy:
Ydraig why are you arguing with people about such a pointless thing ?, semantics taken to the next level.
Because I'm not a big fan of the way they're exploiting the genuine memory of "classic" gaming and saying that "expansions today are so very rare, but our DLCs totally are!" when that's simply not true. Even if they just called them "expansion packs" without the stupid PR ploy and letting you buy an "expansion pass" months before the main game came out, I wouldn't have had a problem.

Originally posted by Universal7:
Originally posted by billy:
Ydraig why are you arguing with people about such a pointless thing ?, semantics taken to the next level.
Just ignore him and try not to go off topic and feed him anymore. But on topic with dlc/expansions I do believe HoS was an expansion and as will Blood and Wine. All of the extra quests etc you can pick up are dlc (as in small add-ons).
People who cannot agree with you are trolls! Impressive argument.

So do you disagree with Rockstar for labeling The Ballad of Gay Tony and Lost & Damned and Bethesda labeling Dragonborn and Far Harbor and BioWare for labeling Citadel and Jaws of Hakkon as DLC, then?
Last edited by Y Ddraig Ddu; May 19, 2016 @ 1:29am
RedAugustus May 19, 2016 @ 2:29am 
Originally posted by ydraig:
Originally posted by billy:
Ydraig why are you arguing with people about such a pointless thing ?, semantics taken to the next level.
Because I'm not a big fan of the way they're exploiting the genuine memory of "classic" gaming and saying that "expansions today are so very rare, but our DLCs totally are!" when that's simply not true. Even if they just called them "expansion packs" without the stupid PR ploy and letting you buy an "expansion pass" months before the main game came out, I wouldn't have had a problem.

Originally posted by Universal7:
Just ignore him and try not to go off topic and feed him anymore. But on topic with dlc/expansions I do believe HoS was an expansion and as will Blood and Wine. All of the extra quests etc you can pick up are dlc (as in small add-ons).
People who cannot agree with you are trolls! Impressive argument.

So do you disagree with Rockstar for labeling The Ballad of Gay Tony and Lost & Damned and Bethesda labeling Dragonborn and Far Harbor and BioWare for labeling Citadel and Jaws of Hakkon as DLC, then?

No i dont think that but youre entitled to your opinions and I made no arguement against you. I simply stated my own thoughts like you did. On topic. Its fine that its labeled as "dlc". Its content that is downloadable. Everything is DLC even if its a soundtrack to the game or what have you, But whether or not it expands the game is the difference and adds quite more than dlc as we know it today. Thats just how I and others see it and how you see it differently. I see "dlc" as an umbrella term to anything that you can download for games. Expansion is kinda a user word and less so a game dev word now a days if that makes sense.
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