Is the Letho not showing up at Reardon Manor even if you spared him in Witcher 2 bug fixed?

[Stridswombat]

A while ago I encountered a bug that prevented Letho from showing up at Reardon Manor as if you killed him in Witcher 2, even if you loaded in a save in which you spared his life.

Has anyone else encountered this bug and does anyone know if it has been fixed yet?

[SA Turak]

That's why i don't even bother loading my W2 save. I prefer to just have simulate on and answer the general's questions. No chance of it bugging out.

[theseeker52]

Originally posted by Changeling:

A while ago I encountered a bug that prevented Letho from showing up at Reardon Manor as if you killed him in Witcher 2, even if you loaded in a save in which you spared his life.

Has anyone else encountered this bug and does anyone know if it has been fixed yet?

Yes, and apparently not ! Futhermore, no Sile De Tanserville either, on my first playthrough ,she was in jail with the other sorceress, you are to rescue. Of course, I didn't kill either one in W2,wanting to see them again in W3 !

[theseeker52]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

The only sure way to get what you want is to simulate the save and answer the questions. The game's coding is a joke. If you don't know that by now, well, take it as a lesson learned. They're getting all these awards but what really matters is how the game works and it can sometimes be quite a mess. The coding in many places is rank amateur hour and would not have passed any programming class given in the country by any university. Of course I have no idea how the education system is in Poland but I can't imagine they'd accept this kind of sloppiness on a general basis.

So do yourself a favor on your next playthrough (IF you do another one) and just opt to simulate a W2 save and answer those five questions.

Okay, I had to make sure I knew what you were talking about, the questions asked when Geralt is being prepped before meeting Emhyr. I answered them properly,but the game has had some crashes ,I call them burps, must be on one of those the information was lost. Another timeI lost a quest and had to repeat it even though it was saved,not sure if it was Steam or the game. I've noticed on some Steam updates freakish things happen,too. Thanks for the comment ! :)

[Michael]

The both showed up in my W2 save, but that was in patch 1.04.

I'm replaying since they added cut scenes in 1.10.

[ClavicusVile]

make sure you load the autosave that is after the game ends. i accidentily loaded my last manual save before the fight so i missed out on him the first time round

[v0]

Originally posted by theseeker60:

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

The only sure way to get what you want is to simulate the save and answer the questions. The game's coding is a joke. If you don't know that by now, well, take it as a lesson learned. They're getting all these awards but what really matters is how the game works and it can sometimes be quite a mess. The coding in many places is rank amateur hour and would not have passed any programming class given in the country by any university. Of course I have no idea how the education system is in Poland but I can't imagine they'd accept this kind of sloppiness on a general basis.

So do yourself a favor on your next playthrough (IF you do another one) and just opt to simulate a W2 save and answer those five questions.

Okay, I had to make sure I knew what you were talking about, the questions asked when Geralt is being prepped before meeting Emhyr. I answered them properly,but the game has had some crashes ,I call them burps, must be on one of those the information was lost. Another timeI lost a quest and had to repeat it even though it was saved,not sure if it was Steam or the game. I've noticed on some Steam updates freakish things happen,too. Thanks for the comment ! :)

I noticed Steam sync coughing because saved games folder can reach 1 GIGAbyte...

[Stridswombat]

This is actually my third attempt at fixing it. I tried loading 3 different saves at launch and all resulted in the same bug, when I tried it without using a save he did indeed show up. But I kind of want to keep all the decisions I made in Witcher 2, it's the reason I bought it. I kind of just gave up after a while hoping it would get fixed, apparently it still hasn't.

Thank you all for the advice, much appreciated.

[v0]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

TW3 really doesn't care what choices you made in W2 because it has its own agenda. It's got its own direction it wants to go. So whether you chose Roche's path or Iorveth's will ultimately carry very little weight over into W3.

That's why we generally advise just opting to simulate a W2 save and answering those questions since the only things that will show up in the game are Letho and Sile. One other question regarding Aryan La Valette might have his mother either be brusk with you or friendly and that's it. Whether you chose to save Triss or Anais doesn't matter. Whether you chose to kill or spare Saskia doesn't matter.

I know we disagree on this BB (we discussed it elsewhere) but I seriously hope nobody yet to play TW2 read that post... :/

[v0]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by v0:

I know we disagree on this BB (we discussed it elsewhere) but I seriously hope nobody yet to play TW2 read that post... :/

Why, did I lie? It's true, isn't it? TW3 is a self-contained story. It has to reference some events from past games and the lore but it's mostly going off doing its own thing. I'm sorry but that's the truth and anyone who think whatever they did in W2 will have a significant impact on anything in TW3 is in for a rude awakening.

That's not to say that playing W2 isn't worthwhile in its own right. It certainly is. But the question here is in respect to importing a W2 save. The only thing it actually does is bring back Letho and Sile if they were alive at the end of W2 in your save and whether or not Aryan's mother is nice to you for sparing her son's life. That's it.

The default W2 world state if you choose not to silmulate a W2 save are:

1- Aryan is dead..
2- Followed Roche's path and fled Flotsam with him.
3- Saved Triss or Anais.
4- Let Sile die.
5- Killed Letho.

And again, even those default choices don't matter a damn to TW3's story. If Aryan is alive, his mom is nice to Geralt, accompanies him and Voorhies to the horse race. If he's dead, she wants nothing to do with Geralt and returns to her home. But you still go to the horse race with Voorhies.

Leave Flotsam with Iorverth or Roche, doesn't matter one damn bit. Saskia's fate doesn't matter. Triss's fate doesn't matter -- mostly because whatever you chose in W2, either you saved her or Letho did, but to TW3, she's a part of that game so she's there regardless. And Anais, the poor kid, nobody gives a damn about her in TW3, least of all Radovid or Emhyr.

Sile has a brief appearance in The Great Escape. Again, emotionally it may add some minor impact to the scene but overall does not affect the quest or the game whatsoever. Alive or dead, she'll be dead soon enough so...

Letho has a bit more to offer in TW3. If alive in W2, he appears during a contract and that leads to a small quest of his own. You can then direct him to go to Kaer Morhen where he will become one of the allies during the battle there against the Wild Hunt. Apart from some dialogue and some reactions from Roche and Ves, again there is no other major or minor impact on TW3 storyline.

If people want to play the three Witcher games, they should. They are all worth playing. But not if the idea behind playing W2 is to have an impact on TW3 and I think it's grossly misleading anyone to make them think that. It really doesn't matter because TW3 was written and designed with the newcomer to the entire series, the Witcher lore, in mind. Their purpose was to rope in people who had never heard of The Witcher before and with in that respect, they succeeded extremely well.

But that simulate W2 was something they really probably should have left out altogether for all the good it does.

I thought we discussed our differing attitudes towards spoilers already other than that wrong track I think you misunderstood something about what I meant but life's life.

[theseeker52]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by v0:

I know we disagree on this BB (we discussed it elsewhere) but I seriously hope nobody yet to play TW2 read that post... :/

Why, did I lie? It's true, isn't it? TW3 is a self-contained story. It has to reference some events from past games and the lore but it's mostly going off doing its own thing. I'm sorry but that's the truth and anyone who think whatever they did in W2 will have a significant impact on anything in TW3 is in for a rude awakening.

That's not to say that playing W2 isn't worthwhile in its own right. It certainly is. But the question here is in respect to importing a W2 save. The only thing it actually does is bring back Letho and Sile if they were alive at the end of W2 in your save and whether or not Aryan's mother is nice to you for sparing her son's life. That's it.

The default W2 world state if you choose not to silmulate a W2 save are:

1- Aryan is dead..
2- Followed Roche's path and fled Flotsam with him.
3- Saved Triss or Anais.
4- Let Sile die.
5- Killed Letho.

And again, even those default choices don't matter a damn to TW3's story. If Aryan is alive, his mom is nice to Geralt, accompanies him and Voorhies to the horse race. If he's dead, she wants nothing to do with Geralt and returns to her home. But you still go to the horse race with Voorhies.

Leave Flotsam with Iorverth or Roche, doesn't matter one damn bit. Saskia's fate doesn't matter. Triss's fate doesn't matter -- mostly because whatever you chose in W2, either you saved her or Letho did, but to TW3, she's a part of that game so she's there regardless. And Anais, the poor kid, nobody gives a damn about her in TW3, least of all Radovid or Emhyr.

Sile has a brief appearance in The Great Escape. Again, emotionally it may add some minor impact to the scene but overall does not affect the quest or the game whatsoever. Alive or dead, she'll be dead soon enough so...

Letho has a bit more to offer in TW3. If alive in W2, he appears during a contract and that leads to a small quest of his own. You can then direct him to go to Kaer Morhen where he will become one of the allies during the battle there against the Wild Hunt. Apart from some dialogue and some reactions from Roche and Ves, again there is no other major or minor impact on TW3 storyline.

If people want to play the three Witcher games, they should. They are all worth playing. But not if the idea behind playing W2 is to have an impact on TW3 and I think it's grossly misleading anyone to make them think that. It really doesn't matter because TW3 was written and designed with the newcomer to the entire series, the Witcher lore, in mind. Their purpose was to rope in people who had never heard of The Witcher before and with in that respect, they succeeded extremely well.

But that simulate W2 was something they really probably should have left out altogether for all the good it does.

Clarification on W2 save versus W2 simulation in W3, are the choices made let's say in W2 save cancelled out if you answer the questions in the W2 simulation in W3 or did you nullify both or is the choices in W3 not presented. In other words, I'd rather have a sure thing,so if I have to go back and change something in W2, I will, Probably just not sure how the bug comes into play or if it is just a hit or miss thing. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

[v0]

Originally posted by theseeker60:

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Why, did I lie? It's true, isn't it? TW3 is a self-contained story. It has to reference some events from past games and the lore but it's mostly going off doing its own thing. I'm sorry but that's the truth and anyone who think whatever they did in W2 will have a significant impact on anything in TW3 is in for a rude awakening.

That's not to say that playing W2 isn't worthwhile in its own right. It certainly is. But the question here is in respect to importing a W2 save. The only thing it actually does is bring back Letho and Sile if they were alive at the end of W2 in your save and whether or not Aryan's mother is nice to you for sparing her son's life. That's it.

The default W2 world state if you choose not to silmulate a W2 save are:

1- Aryan is dead..
2- Followed Roche's path and fled Flotsam with him.
3- Saved Triss or Anais.
4- Let Sile die.
5- Killed Letho.

And again, even those default choices don't matter a damn to TW3's story. If Aryan is alive, his mom is nice to Geralt, accompanies him and Voorhies to the horse race. If he's dead, she wants nothing to do with Geralt and returns to her home. But you still go to the horse race with Voorhies.

Leave Flotsam with Iorverth or Roche, doesn't matter one damn bit. Saskia's fate doesn't matter. Triss's fate doesn't matter -- mostly because whatever you chose in W2, either you saved her or Letho did, but to TW3, she's a part of that game so she's there regardless. And Anais, the poor kid, nobody gives a damn about her in TW3, least of all Radovid or Emhyr.

Sile has a brief appearance in The Great Escape. Again, emotionally it may add some minor impact to the scene but overall does not affect the quest or the game whatsoever. Alive or dead, she'll be dead soon enough so...

Letho has a bit more to offer in TW3. If alive in W2, he appears during a contract and that leads to a small quest of his own. You can then direct him to go to Kaer Morhen where he will become one of the allies during the battle there against the Wild Hunt. Apart from some dialogue and some reactions from Roche and Ves, again there is no other major or minor impact on TW3 storyline.

If people want to play the three Witcher games, they should. They are all worth playing. But not if the idea behind playing W2 is to have an impact on TW3 and I think it's grossly misleading anyone to make them think that. It really doesn't matter because TW3 was written and designed with the newcomer to the entire series, the Witcher lore, in mind. Their purpose was to rope in people who had never heard of The Witcher before and with in that respect, they succeeded extremely well.

But that simulate W2 was something they really probably should have left out altogether for all the good it does.

Clarification on W2 save versus W2 simulation in W3, are the choices made let's say in W2 save cancelled out if you answer the questions in the W2 simulation in W3 or did you nullify both or is the choices in W3 not presented. In other words, I'd rather have a sure thing,so if I have to go back and change something in W2, I will, Probably just not sure how the bug comes into play or if it is just a hit or miss thing. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

Nothing to change in TW2. Approach TW3 as if you had no TW2 saves so choose to 'Simulate TW2 save' then answer 'interrogation' scene questions according to choices you made in TW2.

[theseeker52]

Originally posted by v0:

Originally posted by theseeker60:

Clarification on W2 save versus W2 simulation in W3, are the choices made let's say in W2 save cancelled out if you answer the questions in the W2 simulation in W3 or did you nullify both or is the choices in W3 not presented. In other words, I'd rather have a sure thing,so if I have to go back and change something in W2, I will, Probably just not sure how the bug comes into play or if it is just a hit or miss thing. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

Approach TW3 as if you had no TW2 saves so choose to 'Simulate TW2 save' then answer 'interrogation' scene questions according to choices you made in TW2.

v0, I greatly appreciate your response , just starting to do my 3rd playthrough, setting my sights on the gwent game this time. I just didn't know what to do in starting W3 or if you had to pick only one or the other. Thanks

[v0]

Originally posted by theseeker60:

Originally posted by v0:

Approach TW3 as if you had no TW2 saves so choose to 'Simulate TW2 save' then answer 'interrogation' scene questions according to choices you made in TW2.

v0, I greatly appreciate your response , just starting to do my 3rd playthrough, setting my sights on the gwent game this time. I just didn't know what to do in starting W3 or if you had to pick only one or the other. Thanks

Sure np BuzzardBee answered it too already here and in many similar threads (importing TW2 save recurrent problem).

[Stridswombat]

Is it possible to load in an uncomplete Witcher 2 save and have some choices come from the savestate, and some come from the questions asked at the first? That would pretty much solve my only issue with it atm, as I could just load in a save just before killing Letho and tell him he's alive and keep the rest of my choices.

[v0]

Originally posted by Changeling:

Is it possible to load in an uncomplete Witcher 2 save and have some choices come from the savestate, and some come from the questions asked at the first? That would pretty much solve my only issue with it atm, as I could just load in a save just before killing Letho and tell him he's alive and keep the rest of my choices.

With computers everything's possible in principle but i'm not aware of editor or mod that let's you do that. Perhaps it exists.