Gangs of Novigrad.. Keeps failing...?

[Reoden]

(Potential Spoilers)

Alright, so I'm trying to do the Gangs of Novigrad quest. Already talked to Sigi, visited Junior's house, talked to Cleaver, cleared the casino, saved Beggar's man, got his reward, then I went over to the arena.

I met with the dwarves outside and stormed the place. I killed everyone, but the quest auto failed because there's like 20 enemies and the dwarves get 1 shot (playing on Death March), and apparently if they all die, the quest fails.

I tried it a second time, tried to clear the enemies as fast as I could, found the letter tying Junior to his backer, killed everybody, looted everything. But quest still didn't complete. Quest marker leads me back to the entrance, where the last remaining dwarf is stuck against the damn gate. I go back inside, making sure I didn't miss any enemies, then suddenly the quest fails. Apparently the last dwarf died from sheer ineptitude, because there's absolutely nothing else around that explains why he died.

Wtf....?

I like completing everything, but this is just absurd.

[Reoden]

Went back to try a third time.. turned off enemy scaling, actually bothered with hanged man oil and thunderbolt potion this time, raced ahead of the dwarves.. and managed to kill everything before they got themselves killed. Finally.

Still don't understand why it would even matter that at least one of Cleaver's disposable henchmen survives, but w/e, this time they all live to happily get stuck on some other gate some other time.


Turned in the quest.. got a whopping TWO experience points, and 300 Crowns to add to my 18,000. Woohoo!
Being a completionist really sucks sometimes.. lol

[Reoden]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by Reoden:

Still don't understand why it would even matter that at least one of Cleaver's disposable henchmen survives, but w/e, this time they all live to happily get stuck on some other gate some other time.

Because you're supposed to be doing all that WITH Cleaver's guys and if they did, he feels as though you failed them and him. Hence you fail the quest.

Does he really strike you as such a sentimental guy? There were like 20 of Junior's goons in that arena. If Geralt slaughtered them all, put one of Junior's sources of incomes out of commission, and it only cost Cleaver 4 of his own guys, I'm pretty sure he'd call that a good trade.

Also, lore aside, it's obviously gamey as hell. If 4 dwarfs die, boohoo you failed! But if any one of them survives, doesn't even matter which one, then that's perfectly fine!

[philhinton71]

I failed, because I didn't talk to Cleaver

[Gwladwr]

I couldn't kill them fast enough. Then I changed the skills and stood behind the dwarves spamming Aard. worked fine until the game crashed :)

[OneSinn]

Well, unfortunately some quests are bugged and you cant do anything about it. Just keep walking.