Redania vs Nilfgaard

[♠ Radovid V. ♠]

Just wondering who you guys prefer. If you like Kaedwen, Temeria or Aedirn even more, feel free to share your thoughts.

*Spoilers free*

[frobisher]

Or intendants, yeah.

[♠ Radovid V. ♠]

I still think they should have made every world ending more balanced with each having pros and cons. For an example, Radovid would hunt down only mages and leave nonhumans alone + driving Nilfgaard back to South and conquering most of Nilfgaard territory and being rather more cruel and ruthless than insane. Dijkstra killing Ves and Thaler, Roche would have somehow escaped and been pretty pissed at Geralt for leaving them. Dijkstra restoring Vergen as free town where nonhumans are welcome and well treated and making North focusing on fair laws and courts, steady economics. Emhyrs ending should have had more cons, like epilogue mentioning that all other kingdoms except Temeria lost their customs and sovereingty and slavery was introduced ( this wouldnt have happened if Ciri is to become an Empress).

But no, we've got writers who somehow forgot what Nilfgaard really is like and whitewashed it to make it look like saviors and heroes.

[Ken]

Nilfgaard
Less Racists.

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Nilfgaard
Less Racists.

Yeah, they just hate everyone who's not them equally.

Ever heard of the Tragedy of Vreihedd Brigade? It is not a story a Squirrel would tell you.

[Walbert]

The blackwashing of Redania and the North in general and the whitewashing of Nilfgaard is such a joke in this game. The books do not cast Nilfgaard in a good light at all. The North is a relatively free society with some unscrupulous rulers, corrupt court mages and occasional pogroms but a general hope of getting better as time goes on. Its a general allegory for Western society and the Polish state.

Nilfgaard is a cruel, greedy and warmongering imperial state that has brutally massacred every country up to the Northern marches. There is no hope presented in the books of the imperial state ever improving at all. It's an allegory for Nazi Germany, the Soviets, the early modern empires and to a lesser extent the Romans.

But Redania is racist and Radovid is a Hitlerian autist lmao. Bravo CDPR.

[Crash God]

Either Temeria or Aedirn would be the best, as they are the only kingdoms which don't really do anything wrong, but protecting their own kingdoms. Nilfgaard is overall the worst by far, due to their random invasions, corrupt vassals ready to assassinate their totalitarian emperor at any turn, slavery, and the fact that they destroy the North and see them as more or less lesser beings, who they plan to resettle. Redania is the only northern realm, but Kovir and Poviss, that can oppose Nilfgaard, and Radovid will likely be assassinated anyway for his autism.

[[KO19] Davide]

Thatt's where the game kind of disappoints me. Both are terrible, you hate Nilfgaard even more if you read the books. Ciri becoming empress of Nilfgaard and The north is the other extreme. That's a Disney ending!

[♠ Radovid V. ♠]

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Thatt's where the game kind of disappoints me. Both are terrible, you hate Nilfgaard even more if you read the books. Ciri becoming empress of Nilfgaard and The north is the other extreme. That's a Disney ending!

I've read the books twice :) I completely agree, Nilfgaard is supposed to be the "Evil Empire" if we were to judge by Sapkowski's point of view.

I can never bring myself to let Emhyr win and letting Radovid win sucks and letting your friends die sucks even more.
I do not like Emhyr, neither his personality and actions and I hate all the arrogant Nilfgaardians which are 100% sure of capturing Novigrad and enslaving North.
I like Radovid because of how he is made and written, not his personality and actions though.
I like Dijkstra because of his personality, humour and his way of making North strong and prosperous like never before.

So for my first gameplay I just did a simple math of statements mentioned above ↑
-1 (Emhyr) + 0 (Radovid) + 1 (Dijkstra) = 0 → Radovid wins for me

[WojciechWojski]

Resurrection, Redania all the way.

[Мойдодыр]

Honestly, I'd fight for Redania cause Nilfgard tries to take away my god-given rigfht to get dead-drunk and lay in the dirth while beingm drunk. So yes, Radovid for sure

[WojciechWojski]

From what I remember originaly Radovid wasn't supposed to be like this, in previous entries he was "harsh", cruel and allready hated mages but nowhere near to what we see in W3, he was even seen as competant and rightious ruler who was to restore justice and order in the lands, on the other hand Nilfgard was always seen as the ultimate bad guys who wanted to destroy, conquer and ♥♥♥♥ (probably because they were mainly based on Roman Empire and Nazi Germany), this was expecialy obvious in books where Nilfgardians were baisically nazis, but Reds decided to lighten up the Nilfgard a bit and make Redania(baisically representing Poland) darker just so that the choice wouldn't be obvious and the ratio wouldn't look like 90% for Redania.

[♠ Radovid V. ♠]

Początkowo opublikowane przez WojciechWojski:

From what I remember originaly Radovid wasn't supposed to be like this, in previous entries he was "harsh", cruel and allready hated mages but nowhere near to what we see in W3, he was even seen as competant and rightious ruler who was to restore justice and order in the lands, on the other hand Nilfgard was always seen as the ultimate bad guys who wanted to destroy, conquer and ♥♥♥♥ (probably because they were mainly based on Roman Empire and Nazi Germany), this was expecialy obvious in books where Nilfgardians were baisically nazis, but Reds decided to lighten up the Nilfgard a bit and make Redania(baisically representing Poland) darker just so that the choice wouldn't be obvious and the ratio wouldn't look like 90% for Redania.

This thread is old, but whatever I still like to talk about Witcher world.
You are right and I 100% share the same opinion as you. Radovid was widely different in Witcher 1 & 2. He was cruel sure, even extremely cruel and stern but he had been a great tactician, politician and skilled at rulling - remainded me of Lord Baelish "Littlefinger" from Game of Thrones, while in W3 he is straight up older and more intelligent version of Joffrey Baratheon Lannister.
In W1 & W2 he cared a little about his friends and allies and was sure to make anything possible to strengthen his country position whereas in W3 he only cares about HIMSELF and his personal vengeance and pretty much despises anything that's not RADOVID.

[WojciechWojski]

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From what I remember originaly Radovid wasn't supposed to be like this, in previous entries he was "harsh", cruel and allready hated mages but nowhere near to what we see in W3, he was even seen as competant and rightious ruler who was to restore justice and order in the lands, on the other hand Nilfgard was always seen as the ultimate bad guys who wanted to destroy, conquer and ♥♥♥♥ (probably because they were mainly based on Roman Empire and Nazi Germany), this was expecialy obvious in books where Nilfgardians were baisically nazis, but Reds decided to lighten up the Nilfgard a bit and make Redania(baisically representing Poland) darker just so that the choice wouldn't be obvious and the ratio wouldn't look like 90% for Redania.

This thread is old, but whatever I still like to talk about Witcher world.
You are right and I 100% share the same opinion as you. Radovid was widely different in Witcher 1 & 2. He was cruel sure, even extremely cruel and stern but he made of a great tactician, politician and skilled at rulling - remainded me of Lord Baelish "Littlefinger" from Game of Thrones, while in W3 he is straight up older and more intelligent version of Joffrey Baratheon Lannister.
In W1 & W2 he cared a little about his friends and allies and was sure to make anything possible to strengthen his country position whereas in W3 he only cares about HIMSELF and his personal vengeance and pretty much despise anything that's not RADOVID.

His transition says everything, from potential great, strong king who would rule by respect and fear among enemies, greatest tactician and clearly wise person to stereotypical madman making strangle monologs with chess and being reckognized only by burining people alive. The agenda of changing his character was too clear.

BTW, Hello Radovid xd I was always choosing your side.

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This thread is old, but whatever I still like to talk about Witcher world.
You are right and I 100% share the same opinion as you. Radovid was widely different in Witcher 1 & 2. He was cruel sure, even extremely cruel and stern but he made of a great tactician, politician and skilled at rulling - remainded me of Lord Baelish "Littlefinger" from Game of Thrones, while in W3 he is straight up older and more intelligent version of Joffrey Baratheon Lannister.
In W1 & W2 he cared a little about his friends and allies and was sure to make anything possible to strengthen his country position whereas in W3 he only cares about HIMSELF and his personal vengeance and pretty much despise anything that's not RADOVID.

His transition says everything, from potential great, strong king who would rule by respect and fear among enemies, greatest tactician and clearly wise person to stereotypical madman making strangle monologs with chess and being reckognized only by burining people alive. The agenda of changing his character was too clear.

BTW, Hello Radovid xd I was always choosing your side.

I guess he's also taken to leaving Starbucks cup wherever he goes, if we go full-tilt into GoT references.

[WojciechWojski]

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His transition says everything, from potential great, strong king who would rule by respect and fear among enemies, greatest tactician and clearly wise person to stereotypical madman making strangle monologs with chess and being reckognized only by burining people alive. The agenda of changing his character was too clear.

BTW, Hello Radovid xd I was always choosing your side.

I guess he's also taken to leaving Starbucks cup wherever he goes, if we go full-tilt into GoT references.

Ye he must be sponsored by Starbucks.