The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

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Anton Jun 28, 2018 @ 10:25pm
Bad Ending Makes No Sense (SPOILERS)
I realize how old this game is but i picked it up during the sale so whatever but i no lifed it, putting 35 hours into it which all 35 hours i was playing the main story. I got the bad ending and i was sad, so i looked up how i got the bad ending. i was fully prepared to beat myself up for making a decision that was clearly the bad choice but instead i was shocked at how stupid the choices were. i made only 2 good choices out of the like 5 that affect the ending. i refused the gold and let her see Skjall's grave. the other choices didn't make sense on how just because i didn't snowball fight with Ciri, Geralt and her die. it doesn't make sense that not letting her trash the elve's place somehow gets both of them killed. it doesn't make sense that going with Ciri to the lodge gets them both killed. none of it makes sense on how it affects the ending. since i went with her to the lodge, she freezes to death and Geralt goes on a suicide mission to the crones? doesn't make any sense in the slightest. the purpose of this is to vent a little since i did spend 35 hours for a ♥♥♥♥ ending that i had no way of knowing was gonna happen since i didn't want to look anything up about the game before playing it and having a bit of a conversation with either people who agree or disagree with me.
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Originally posted by BuzzardBee:
Originally posted by Lokhir Coeur de Pierre:
Too long, didn't read lol.

Yeah, attention span of a gnat. How in the world have you managed to get through life so far??

Oh, I get it. LIFE FOR DUMMIES. I hear it has plenty of nice pictures.

Y r u mad ? Becuz someone criticised ur favorite game OMEGALULZ ?
This kinda killed the thread, reading 4 posts that long isn't enjoyable (especially when they're all saying the same thing)
I'm not sure whether i should laugh at those "too long didn't read" posts or weep for "adult" gamers.
Last edited by Living Broscillograph; Jun 29, 2018 @ 1:39pm
Anton Jun 29, 2018 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by v0:
in op's world i presume life's logical everything's reason and all consequences're foreseeable. for rest of us there's real life :/
thats not what im saying, im just saying that THESE consequences should have no impact what so ever
Anton Jun 29, 2018 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by Living Broscillograph:
I'm not sure whether i should laugh at those "too long didn't read" posts or weep for "adult" gamers.
lmao true. this game has nudity, sex, and a lot of killing but yknow. too long to read
Originally posted by Living Broscillograph:
I'm not sure whether i should laugh at those "too long didn't read" posts or weep for "adult" gamers.
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Originally posted by Pélinal Blancserpent:
Originally posted by Living Broscillograph:
I'm not sure whether i should laugh at those "too long didn't read" posts or weep for "adult" gamers.
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Can you cite those posts for us to compare?
Originally posted by Living Broscillograph:
Originally posted by Pélinal Blancserpent:
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Ofc, it's so FUNNY to read 4 long a$$ posts which are all saying the exact same thing.
Can you cite those posts for us to compare?
He just deleted his posts
DrNewcenstein Jun 29, 2018 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by v0:
in op's world i presume life's logical everything's reason and all consequences're foreseeable. for rest of us there's real life :/

Umm, actually, in real life, you'd know if you were going to cheer someone up with a snowball fight, or a day of drinking, or a day of humping, or a day of shadow puppets, or tell a few jokes, or just punch them in the face until they forgot about their troubles, so yeah, all consequences are foreseeable IRL.

Geralt's possible responses are guesswork at best for the most part, which is why you save often. I don't mean once an hour, I mean before talking to anyone, before and after every mission/quest/task, and roughly every 10 minutes otherwise, even if you leave him standing in a field for 3 real days.

While it's nice to presume everyone has read the books, it's a fallacy, so yes you will be faced with choices that you have no "inside knowledge" to refer to, and the first introduction to Ciri we have is as a tweenager who is careless, irresponsible, and relatively self-centered. Then she's gone and we don't see her again except for brief "play-as" moments which do not lend any more insight into her maturity level. It's over-explained how she's King Sh*t From F*ck Mountain Of Prophecy and has the potential to unmake reality, and that Geralt is an emotionless pr*ck due to the sh*tty childhood, the mutations, the murders, and the monsters he's faced for almost 100 years. Dude cannot be expected to be rainbows and sunshine even if he does think of Ciri as a daughter. By all accounts, he would want her to not make the same foolish mistakes he made as a young Witcher, especially where her powers are concerned.

However, you'd have to have completely skipped the Witcher 2 if you did not want to kill Phillipa Eilhardt on sight, or you weren't listening to her dialog. Despite Radovid being a doosh and wanting all witches dead, frankly, she deserves it more than anyone. She's manipulative, and her plan for the Lodge was to control the kingdoms. While on the surface this would benefit everyone as there would be no war, the ultimate goal was to give the Lodge absolute control over everyone, not just the monarchy, but the peasants as well. Need a few human sacrifices for a new spell? No sweat, go grab some villagers. Ooops, I accidentally unleashed a plague, or a horde, or some other public threat. Oh well, I'll deal with it later, maybe. After a bath and a nap and some "me time".

It's also abundantly clear she wants to control Ciri's power, making her a time-traveling tool, so she can go back in time and sieze total control of the known world and ensure it's handed down from herself to herself for eternity.
Yennefer also has designs on controlling Ciri's power for her own purposes, and is still clinging to Phillipa's apron strings and the Lodge, who are loyal to Phillipa.
Meanwhile, Phillipa wants Yennefer far away from her as the advisor to Ciri as Empress.

Triss is the only one who encourages Ciri to take her own path free of the influence of anyone else, other than the loving and benevolent concern and support of Geralt, so yes, the logical choices are "stick with it, knuckle down and do the work, stop being such a whiny girl, you're being hunted by Elves with thousands of years of experience in this sort of thing and you really do need to work on your skills" etc etc.

Yes, she's only human (half at least), but I'm sorry, she's also the most destructive power in the known universe, so she needs to face the ugly reality head-on and focus on winning the fight.

But still, it does seem you have to be a big softy with Ciri, despite playing a character who either has zero emotions or has trained himself to bury them so deep they may as well not exist.
That constant conflict of character bugs me: how can Geralt love Yennefer (or Ciri) if the mutations strip them of emotions? Is it the Djinn's doing or does he have emotions?

As for the other choices mentioned in the OP, refusing the gold and letting her pay her respects to those who helped her are no-brainer good choices. Stealing the horses was a bit of a stretch IMO, and they could have given you the option to buy the horses yourself, rather than just giving them the money to do so.
Trashing the Elf's lab also made no sense. Who was thic Elf chick? What was her proof of anything she said? Are we to take her word alone on Avellach's intentions and motives? Yes, he'd been researching the genetics and trying to create the very thing that Ciri was born as. Is Ciri his creation or a natural progression? None of that is clearly explained in the game.
So why trash a man's house based on some random chick's snide remarks? She could've been a cheap ho just trying to cop a free ride from dude and saw Ciri as competition, we don't know.

However, for my own most recent playthrough, I refused the gold, took her on the Thank You tour (including Skjall's grave), went with her to meet with the Lodge because I don't trust them, had the Snowball Fight, and trashed the Elf's lab. She wound up as Empress, with Yennefer as her advisor, and I ran off to Kovir with Triss to live a happy life with a hot redhead who had real feelings for me instead of endless excuses like Yennefer.
But I also banged both of them, and the blonde chick who wanted the ghost lamp, so there's that.
deidian Jun 29, 2018 @ 4:34pm 
Originally posted by Solstha:
Originally posted by v0:
in op's world i presume life's logical everything's reason and all consequences're foreseeable. for rest of us there's real life :/
thats not what im saying, im just saying that THESE consequences should have no impact what so ever

And why not. Once the choice plays out and you see the cinematic is pretty evident it was a screw up. Just easy:

Snowball fight vs drinking session: the snowball fight provides a diversion, a book tactic for stressful situations, you go take a break and return back. Drinking means evading something that has been stated to you just before(by Avallac'h and Yennefer) that is mandatory: Ciri must have a minimum control over her powers as far as the game is concerned, is said directly.

How has impact: she goes on a posibly suicidal mission to end with the "White Frost". How do you expect her to perform in this scenario if she doesn't has reliable control over her powers? Flawlessly maybe...

Going with her to the lodge meeting or no: simple, self-suficiency. She's 20 years old in the game, by letting her go alone and encouraging to handle by herself you assure her in being self-sufficient, not rely on others pulling out the trick for her. Besides, Ciri's indepency is a strong motive throughtout the game.

How has impact: Geralt cannot assist or help Ciri in her "fight" against the "White Frost", there she needs to rely on herself being able to do it.

Thrash or not Avallac'h laboratory: again Ciri's indepency here. Just let her handle the things her own way, no matter what you think about how should be solved. If she wants to unleash fury destroying some furniture let it be. Definitely taking in account the circunstances that is better than going to a battle(at this point you know the final battle is very very close) in a day or two with her raging and offended. You know her at this point, doesn't matter what people tells her, you know she's going to be in the fight...if you care about her, she being more or less ok mentally is better

How has impact: the difference between going to a battle more or less ok or going enraged and offended. Who will likely do it better?


There's much more points and perspectives from which you can analyze this, that's for sure. Even pulling from the books if you read them can help a bit in every choice. Just think it closely, if you just had stick to the idea that Ciri is 20 years old and is time for her to handle the things on her own without your Geralt cutting in, you would have managed to avoid this tragic resolution to the story.

Last, you can say you didn't saw it comming because as many other choices in the game consequences for Ciri's choices are masked, meaning that it was intentional for players to not be able to guess the consequences of a choice. But that's how it was designed, with the idea in mind that when you face a choice you really don't know what's going to happen when you choose the sentence.
Exarch_Alpha Jun 29, 2018 @ 6:09pm 
Some really dumb comments here.

The Bloody Baron´s life was ruined by booze.

One option was to drink booze with Ciri. And somehow it isn´t obvious that was the bad choice.

Sucker :steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty:
Originally posted by BuzzardBee:
Damian, you're wasting your time with these guys. I tried several times to explain it to them. They're just too thick. All they could do was ridicule me for repeating myself. It was an effort in futility because they're simply too dumb to understand anything. So be it.
Oh but I wasn't even saying you were wrong or anything, I'm agreeing with you actually. You just made your arguments too long and it wasn't enjoyable to read, that's it
Originally posted by Pélinal Blancserpent:
Originally posted by Living Broscillograph:
Can you cite those posts for us to compare?
He just deleted his posts
How sad.
v0 Jun 30, 2018 @ 2:10am 
Originally posted by Solstha:
Originally posted by v0:
in op's world i presume life's logical everything's reason and all consequences're foreseeable. for rest of us there's real life :/
thats not what im saying, im just saying that THESE consequences should have no impact what so ever

my reply still applies. ime many things in life're rather unforeseeable. seemingly inconsequential things turn out to be super important later and vice versa. which makes it interesting or frustrating or exciting depending on circumstances.
Last edited by v0; Jun 30, 2018 @ 2:11am
BADGIRL17 Jun 30, 2018 @ 3:00am 
I think the problem is decisions aren't equal to the weight of outcome. Rather trivial stuff that leads to such dramatic consequences. If major quest-lines detemined such faiths - it's one thing. But a few unrelated conversations?
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