[spoiler] nothing changed after the king died

[crua9]

after the king died when you got done working with the group of spies. Other than the one or many spies die due to the betrayal. I notice no one acknowledged the king is dead, what happened, and so on. I noticed the eternal fire was still in power, and the people were still talking about the king as he was still alive.
Did I miss something, or was this one of those moments where the devs royally screwed up?

[crua9]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

And since the game is set in Temeria, yet another region, why would anyone really comment on Radovid being dead? He wasn't their king. Their king, Foltest, was assassinated during the second game by Letho.

Walking around I heard long live Radovid. I forgot which town, but it was after he died.

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by crua9:

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

And since the game is set in Temeria, yet another region, why would anyone really comment on Radovid being dead? He wasn't their king. Their king, Foltest, was assassinated during the second game by Letho.

Walking around I heard long live Radovid. I forgot which town, but it was after he died.

That is true - I've also heard it.

You got to admit though, it's pretty near the end. It's a mistake, but hardly heinous.

:)

[crua9]

Originally posted by Leland Stottlemeyer:

Originally posted by crua9:

Walking around I heard long live Radovid. I forgot which town, but it was after he died.

That is true - I've also heard it.

You got to admit though, it's pretty near the end. It's a mistake, but hardly heinous.

:)

Idk about this. It wasn't small, there were alarms, and you had to even go into hiding for a short while. But I highly doubt the guards would give up looking in an hours time. Also the military might go into chaos itself until someone fills the void.
As far as the fire. It was sold to us that the place was once again going to be safe for magic users. And relating the game to real world. Under a kingdom, the government can outlaw a given religion and crush it. This has been done a dozen times in Europe, and even more in other places. But we could've been sold a false thing

But even in the USA, there is a level of suppression. Like you can do most anything you want giving you don't hurt others, or anything like that. But many religions say you should stone someone on religious days, kill others in other religions, and so on. So a new king in game could easily fix this practically over night

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by crua9:

Originally posted by Leland Stottlemeyer:

That is true - I've also heard it.

You got to admit though, it's pretty near the end. It's a mistake, but hardly heinous.

:)

Idk about this. It wasn't small, there were alarms, and you had to even go into hiding for a short while. But I highly doubt the guards would give up looking in an hours time. Also the military might go into chaos itself until someone fills the void.
As far as the fire. It was sold to us that the place was once again going to be safe for magic users. And relating the game to real world. Under a kingdom, the government can outlaw a given religion and crush it. This has been done a dozen times in Europe, and even more in other places. But we could've been sold a false thing

But even in the USA, there is a level of suppression. Like you can do most anything you want giving you don't hurt others, or anything like that. But many religions say you should stone someone on religious days, kill others in other religions, and so on. So a new king in game could easily fix this practically over night

There's somewhere in the game, where you do a quest for a Radavanian? Soldier, who hates Radavid.

I think it's just a bit of a mistake, where they didn't bother to correct what an NPC might say though. I did notice: Long live Radovid, after I killed the weasel.

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by Leland Stottlemeyer:

That is true - I've also heard it.

You got to admit though, it's pretty near the end. It's a mistake, but hardly heinous.

:)

Originally posted by crua9:

Idk about this. It wasn't small, there were alarms, and you had to even go into hiding for a short while. But I highly doubt the guards would give up looking in an hours time. Also the military might go into chaos itself until someone fills the void.
As far as the fire. It was sold to us that the place was once again going to be safe for magic users. And relating the game to real world. Under a kingdom, the government can outlaw a given religion and crush it. This has been done a dozen times in Europe, and even more in other places. But we could've been sold a false thing

What are you talking about? Novigrad? Novigrad is a free city. It's not under the rule of any government or kingdom. Radovid and Emhyr were both vying to gain control of the city but neither did in the end.

And what fire are you referring to? The city wasn't burned down. There were several pyres erected in Hierarch Square and just outside one of the gates to burn alive those deemed impure by the Eternal Fire (mostly mages, dopplers and anyone else they felt like accusing). And just who said it was going to be safe again for magic users?

If Emhyr has his way, his first priority is successfully conquering the north. This is his third attempt at doing that. And this time, the Temerian guerilla fighters are giving him so many problems, that his supporters at home are not only grumbling but they're plotting to remove him from the throne if his war continues for much longer with increased losses and skyrocketing costs. This is why he wants Ciri back, so he can put her on the throne and still maintain control from behind the scenes without risking an assassination.

This is also why he's agreed to the terms brokered by Thaler in accordance with Roche and Ves. They proposed a cessation to their guerilla attacks if Nilfgaard would agree to withdraw from Temeria and make them a vassal state. They'd have self-rule and owe allegiance to Nilfgaard, be a part of its empire much like Toussaint is, but with the added bonus of no longer having the Black ones encamped on their land.

But that would only work if they also agreed to kill Radovid as he's become quite a thorn in the invasion effort. Redania had promised Kaedewen protection from Emhyr's invasion only to double cross them in the end and annex their territory. He doubled his strength, his manpowers, resources and territory with that move, making him that much more difficult to defeat and conquer.

Emhyr agree to the pact so long as Roche and company would kill Radovid. But none of this is what Dijkstra wants. He's also Redanian and while he definitely wants Radovid out of the way, he wants to rule Redania himself and he too would like to conquer the north and place it all under his own control. If he is allowed to kill Roche, Ves and Thaler, he would then rule Redania and more or less mirror Emhyr in his desire to conquer all the north. He would win the war, drive back Nilfgaard and it would lead to Emhyr's assassination back home.

So the player has numerous choices here. Go through with the assassination plot and kill Radovid. That would secure Temeria's freedom (sort of) and mean that Emhyr would remain in power. If Ciri becomes empress, he'd still be alive and behind the scenes, pulling the strings. If Ciri becomes a witcher, he'll continue ruling on the throne.

If either Radovid or Dijkstra remains in power, it would mean the end of Emhyr's life. If both are dead, Emhyr conquers the remainder of the north and has Temeria as a vassal, so essentially has all of the regions in his pocket.

Well there's somewhere, that one of Radovids soldiers(who else would say: Long live Radovid?), says long live Radovid - after you killed him. I'm not sure where it is, but it's one of his soldiers, when he's dead.

[crua9]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by Leland Stottlemeyer:

That is true - I've also heard it.

You got to admit though, it's pretty near the end. It's a mistake, but hardly heinous.

:)

Originally posted by crua9:

Idk about this. It wasn't small, there were alarms, and you had to even go into hiding for a short while. But I highly doubt the guards would give up looking in an hours time. Also the military might go into chaos itself until someone fills the void.
As far as the fire. It was sold to us that the place was once again going to be safe for magic users. And relating the game to real world. Under a kingdom, the government can outlaw a given religion and crush it. This has been done a dozen times in Europe, and even more in other places. But we could've been sold a false thing

What are you talking about? Novigrad? Novigrad is a free city. It's not under the rule of any government or kingdom. Radovid and Emhyr were both vying to gain control of the city but neither did in the end.

And what fire are you referring to? The city wasn't burned down. There were several pyres erected in Hierarch Square and just outside one of the gates to burn alive those deemed impure by the Eternal Fire (mostly mages, dopplers and anyone else they felt like accusing). And just who said it was going to be safe again for magic users?

If Emhyr has his way, his first priority is successfully conquering the north. This is his third attempt at doing that. And this time, the Temerian guerilla fighters are giving him so many problems, that his supporters at home are not only grumbling but they're plotting to remove him from the throne if his war continues for much longer with increased losses and skyrocketing costs. This is why he wants Ciri back, so he can put her on the throne and still maintain control from behind the scenes without risking an assassination.

This is also why he's agreed to the terms brokered by Thaler in accordance with Roche and Ves. They proposed a cessation to their guerilla attacks if Nilfgaard would agree to withdraw from Temeria and make them a vassal state. They'd have self-rule and owe allegiance to Nilfgaard, be a part of its empire much like Toussaint is, but with the added bonus of no longer having the Black ones encamped on their land.

But that would only work if they also agreed to kill Radovid as he's become quite a thorn in the invasion effort. Redania had promised Kaedewen protection from Emhyr's invasion only to double cross them in the end and annex their territory. He doubled his strength, his manpowers, resources and territory with that move, making him that much more difficult to defeat and conquer.

Emhyr agree to the pact so long as Roche and company would kill Radovid. But none of this is what Dijkstra wants. He's also Redanian and while he definitely wants Radovid out of the way, he wants to rule Redania himself and he too would like to conquer the north and place it all under his own control. If he is allowed to kill Roche, Ves and Thaler, he would then rule Redania and more or less mirror Emhyr in his desire to conquer all the north. He would win the war, drive back Nilfgaard and it would lead to Emhyr's assassination back home.

So the player has numerous choices here. Go through with the assassination plot and kill Radovid. That would secure Temeria's freedom (sort of) and mean that Emhyr would remain in power. If Ciri becomes empress, he'd still be alive and behind the scenes, pulling the strings. If Ciri becomes a witcher, he'll continue ruling on the throne.

If either Radovid or Dijkstra remains in power, it would mean the end of Emhyr's life. If both are dead, Emhyr conquers the remainder of the north and has Temeria as a vassal, so essentially has all of the regions in his pocket.

There is a gov in place. Otherwise there would be no military there. The military doesn't work for free.
Check what happen with Benedict Arnold and why he betrayed the USA


(the people there aren't the neighborhood watch lol)

[deidian]

Yes, the Church of the Eternal Fire is the main power in Novigrad, with the Temple Guard as the city watch and Hierarch as the head. But it is also said that the called big 4 (Whoreson Junior, Djisktra, Cleaver and The King of Beggars) hold a great power in the city...so at the end power in Novigrad at the start of the game is too fragmented to anyone have the balls to claim that someone rules Novigrad.
This is why is called a free city because there's so much powers and so much disorder that what a concrete citizien does can easily pass unnoticed. Also said too that the temple guard doesn't even step in the piece of the city under the control of The King of Beggars, so yeah, nice city watch... This is the starting picture of Novigrad.

As the game progresses since Radovid and the redanian army are allied with the Church of The Eternal Fire more presence of redanian guads is allowed. Also the fall of Whoreson Junior(or death depending on your choice) unbalances the powers in the city a bit. This reachs its peak in the last act of the game, when Geralt is back in Novigrad with Ciri and Radovid took control over the city and is full of temple guards and redanian soldiers.

[CloudSeeker]

If you actuallly read what the game say like when you first gets to Vizima the guy before you find Jen will say "In Novigrad it is the criminal gangs and the Church that holds the real power". That implies no royalty really hold any power since it is the leaders in the church that runs the town.

[Boh3.bf]

Don't forget about Oxenfurt. That's a redanian city.

And I don't remember NPCs crying for the lost of their king.

By the way that "Long live Radovid" is just a common soldier line.