[Spoilers] W3 Eye for an Eye quest bugged (not the usual bug)

[CocoNautilus]

The problem occurs shortly after I meet with Roche at hanged mans tree. Roche & I start running towards mulbrydale, and as soon as we reach the town area, Roche vanishes into thin air, and the quest log says Ves is dead. when this happens, Ves's health bar never appears in the HUD either.

I do often use the debug console to allowe fast travel.
In a previous quest, after i killed whoreson Junior, i fast travelled out of the mansion which means i didnt trigger the cutscene with Radovid where he tasks me to find Philippa Eilhart. After realizing this i reloaded a previous save, had the conversation with Radovid and then went on to do the Eye for an Eye quest with Roche.

unfortunately the problem still persists, and i would very much like to have the "Full Troup" Achievement, but more importantly, in my role play i would like to save Ves.

If anyone has any possible solutions, i would be very grateful.

[lamacra]

Best guess you allready broke your game with the fast travel.
NEVER EVER use this if you don´t know what you are doing.

[CocoNautilus]

Originally posted by lamacra:

Best guess you allready broke your game with the fast travel.
NEVER EVER use this if you don´t know what you are doing.

so even after reloading a previous game it still messes up the save game files?
good to know.

[lamacra]

Originally posted by CocoNautilus:

Originally posted by lamacra:

Best guess you allready broke your game with the fast travel.
NEVER EVER use this if you don´t know what you are doing.

so even after reloading a previous game it still messes up the save game files?
good to know.

Well you don´t know how many quests you allready have messed up with this travel in the past without knowing. A messed up safe file may have consequences 10 hours later. What if you allready broke a main story quest and did not even know it right now?

[CocoNautilus]

Originally posted by lamacra:

Originally posted by CocoNautilus:

so even after reloading a previous game it still messes up the save game files?
good to know.

Well you don´t know how many quests you allready have messed up with this travel in the past without knowing. A messed up safe file may have consequences 10 hours later. What if you allready broke a main story quest and did not even know it right now?

you're right, i shoulda played more carefully, definitely will this time around