I just hate being Ciri

[General Malaise]

This is so frustrating. I must be missing something, because I just keep dying as Ciri.

I just don't know how blink is supposed to work, and it doesn't work all the time even when the blue bar is full. I've just tried against the Wild hunt dogs and warriors about 10 times. They just parry, I can't move, they hit her and she's half dead. I just can't work it out.

As Geralt, I'm Lvl 23, and can beat anything I meet, even if it's Lvl 31, just anything easily, I barely need Quen most of the time. As Ciri, I'm just screwed. As far as I can tell, she only has parry, and that's just not working against these guys, they hit right through it.

Anyone help. Some have said she's overpowered, but that's just not what I'm finding.

[Vault Boy]

Are you using the multi-target attack? Have to hold Q iirc

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by Vault Boy:

Are you using the multi-target attack? Have to hold Q iirc

I'm not using anything.

I can't do much with blink. Even when it works, she doesn't do much damage.

I somehow managed to get through that bit. Was fighting, then suddenly in the stable and riding off.

I really don't like the Ciri parts. I don't know if she will roll, because I don't have that bound. She won't dodge, and seems pretty static.

I'm absolutely taking the mick out of them as Geralt, I love monsters much higher than me - but as Ciri, it's just horrible.

[deidian]

Ciri does not parry actually, she also can't perform counterattack too. She just has fast attack(a bit faster than Geralt) and block. Then you have short and long range teleports. Later she gets a charge teleport that hit's eveything in the way and ends behind some enemy.

Also, short/long range teleports don't use energy(blue bar), only the charge teleport uses energy, you can do others as much as you want.

What the Wild Hunt warrior do is a guard break movement that staggers, just mash the teleport button(for Ciri) the same you should mash dodge when you get staggered or stunned with Geralt. Both them can scape before getting hit, actually that guard break is a blessing for Ciri, just teleport to their back before they hit if it's safe and enjoy the backstabbing.

With Ciri you have to play feints with teleports so you trigger enemies hitting in some direction to create openings, do not use teleports to do frontal hits, if you teleport to hit do it behind the enemy or to a side. Only thing you have to care is enemy position.

If you want a safer style just block and strike with the sword and use teleports eventually. She has some witcher training, so she is faster than any enemy hitting with the sword.
The weakness of her fast sword attacks is the same that if you use fast attack with Geralt, fast attacks don't stagger enemies that are heavy armored or big. So everything you learn from using fast attack with Geralt applies to attacks with Ciri.

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by Damián:

Ciri does not parry actually, she also can't perform counterattack too. She just has fast attack(a bit faster than Geralt) and block. Then you have short and long range teleports. Later she gets a charge teleport that hit's eveything in the way and ends behind some enemy.

Also, short/long range teleports don't use energy(blue bar), only the charge teleport uses energy, you can do others as much as you want.

What the Wild Hunt warrior do is a guard break movement that staggers, just mash the teleport button(for Ciri) the same you should mash dodge when you get staggered or stunned with Geralt. Both them can scape before getting hit, actually that guard break is a blessing for Ciri, just teleport to their back before they hit if it's safe and enjoy the backstabbing.

With Ciri you have to play feints with teleports so you trigger enemies hitting in some direction to create openings, do not use teleports to do frontal hits, if you teleport to hit do it behind the enemy or to a side. Only thing you have to care is enemy position.

If you want a safer style just block and strike with the sword and use teleports eventually. She has some witcher training, so she is faster than any enemy hitting with the sword.
The weakness of her fast sword attacks is the same that if you use fast attack with Geralt, fast attacks don't stagger enemies that are heavy armored or big. So everything you learn from using fast attack with Geralt applies to attacks with Ciri.

OK, well that kind of explains a lot, cos I don't know how to teleport as Ciri.

I've just got to go out for a while, but I'll look at keybinds, or try and look up how that works. She may even be fun, when I get her doing what she's supposed to.


When I first started, I get down to one enemy, then practice moves with Geralt. Now he's sorted, and it's dead easy. You get so little time as Ciri, I'm clueless. I didn't even know she teleported.

Thanks a lot for the help, I just knew something wan't right.

[deidian]

Attack mapping relative to Geralt:

Geralt's Fast Attack->Ciri's Fast Attack
Geralt's Strong Attack(tapping)->Ciri's Fast Attack
Geralt's Strong Attack(hold, then release)->Charge teleport, the longer you hold more distance she travels and more enemies can be in range of the charge, but also takes more energy, works like Rend in this regard. She will do the charge in the direction she looks when you start charging the attack.
Geralt's block->Ciri's Block. Remember, no parry or counterattack. But still jedi kind of block, I mean, 360 degree and several hits blocked at a time.
Geralt's dodge->Short range teleport. Combines with WASD or Left Stick to give a direction.
Geralt's Roll->Long range teleport.Combines with WASD or Left Stick to give a direction.

[General Malaise]

Thanks a lot everyone for the info.

[Lady Crimson (RIP)]

ah, my game glitches with her where she gets ridiculously slow some times.. but it's only on rare occurences.. usually when fighting a lot of people in a row.

[deidian]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Hope that won't confuse more than clear up things. She only has the three special abilities. mapping them out like that might make it seem as though she has more. But whatever...

Intent was mapping Ciri's actions, maybe I should have put it clearer. Anyway now should be clear the mapping is for Ciri's actions, skill or not.

[v0]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Apart from that, Ciri is ridiculously overpowered, able to avoid most if not all damage and completely destroy her opponents which is why she's playable for only brief portions of the game.

yeah in scene with skjall she can just finish white hunt wave after wave at least on b&bb so after like 20 waves i eventually got bored and had to let cutscene continue :P

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by Damián:

Attack mapping relative to Geralt:

Geralt's Fast Attack->Ciri's Fast Attack
Geralt's Strong Attack(tapping)->Ciri's Fast Attack
Geralt's Strong Attack(hold, then release)->Charge teleport, the longer you hold more distance she travels and more enemies can be in range of the charge, but also takes more energy, works like Rend in this regard. She will do the charge in the direction she looks when you start charging the attack.
Geralt's block->Ciri's Block. Remember, no parry or counterattack. But still jedi kind of block, I mean, 360 degree and several hits blocked at a time.
Geralt's dodge->Short range teleport. Combines with WASD or Left Stick to give a direction.
Geralt's Roll->Long range teleport.Combines with WASD or Left Stick to give a direction.

Originally posted by v0:

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Apart from that, Ciri is ridiculously overpowered, able to avoid most if not all damage and completely destroy her opponents which is why she's playable for only brief portions of the game.

yeah in scene with skjall she can just finish white hunt wave after wave at least on b&bb so after like 20 waves i eventually got bored and had to let cutscene continue :P

I'm using Keys and mouse, but am struggling for enough keys. I've never used WASD, from when I was an Unreal Tournament addict. I use Return on Little Finger(crouch in UT), Insert for Left/Dodge Left, Home Forward, End Backward. Page Down Right/Dodge Right, and Number pad 0 was Jump. It won't let me remap Return, so little finger is redundant.

Might sound strange, but if you try putting your fingers on those buttons, your fingers fall naturaly on them. I even hacked the keyboard, so buttons only needed pressing about 2mm to work, insead of right down. :).

Anyway, point of all that, is I don't have 'Roll' bound to a any key. I ought to go back and try that area again, now you've told me, be I hate being Ciri so much, I can't bring myself to.

Thanks for the detail anyway. When you say Geralt Strong attack(tapping), do you mean a tap and release, like Counter?

[deidian]

Yes, tapping is the usual push and release fast. if you hold it and currently have Charge Teleport she will start "charging" the skill as energy drop, like "charging" Rend for then release it.

Bind roll and get used to it, Geralt will need to roll in certain battles, and I guarantee you that in some of this battles the attacks you'll be rolling out of the way are very high damage, stomp over Quen shield and dodge is not going to save the day. So free advice, get used to rolling sometimes, it'll save future frustration.

[K-ON!]

yeah first part of ciri, need to be careful to deal with wolf. but then u know her power and easy to dodge any attack

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by Damián:

Yes, tapping is the usual push and release fast. if you hold it and currently have Charge Teleport she will start "charging" the skill as energy drop, like "charging" Rend for then release it.

Bind roll and get used to it, Geralt will need to roll in certain battles, and I guarantee you that in some of this battles the attacks you'll be rolling out of the way are very high damage, stomp over Quen shield and dodge is not going to save the day. So free advice, get used to rolling sometimes, it'll save future frustration.

Thanks. I'm Lvl 23 now, and the only thing I've not been able to aviod so far, is the fast forward rush that the Cyclops(I think) things do. They will change direction during it, so even dodging doesn't help, but Quen has made it that they are still easy to beat.

I just have no more keys I can really access. Shame Return won't remap, but I'm stuck with that.

I've been up to Lvl 30 before, but restarted on Death March, and so far, it's still dead easy just using dodge, which I love in this game.

I'll have to worry about using something for Roll when I'm struggling. I hope it does get a lot harder, cos the most fun battles now, are 10 levels above me, and there's nothing I can't beat, even if a few take a while - unless I'm Ciri of course, where a kitten would do me.

:)

[Simple Man]

Haven't read it all, but you can just dodge with Ciri. Dodge on her is blink, or perhaps its called teleport? maybe. Blink is that hold Q deal with the bubble.

Fight an enemy head on, hit him twice as her fast attack is rather quick, and blink straight into their backs. Now hit their back couple times, once they turn to you, redo, blink into their back. Don't need roll key with Ciri.

Only bit more difficult fight with Ciri are the crones, since ya face all 3 at once. Even then, if ya already used to playing her a bit, its not the end of the world. She also regenerates health when not being hit, use that in your favor if you see it going sideways.

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by kodiak.pw:

Haven't read it all, but you can just dodge with Ciri. Dodge on her is blink, or perhaps its called teleport? maybe.

Fight an enemy head on, hit him twice as her fast attack is rather quick, and blink straight into their backs. Now hit their back couple times, once they turn to you, redo, blink into their back. Don't need roll key with Ciri.

Only bit more difficult fight with Ciri are the crones, since ya face all 3 at once. Even then, if ya already used to playing her a bit, its not the end of the world. She also regenerates health when not being hit, use that in your favor if you see it going sideways.

Damn, I got to fight The Crones as Ciri.

:(

Maybe it will be better when I employ what I've learnt here, but I really hate being Ciri at the moment.