The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

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Ness Oct 17, 2017 @ 5:30pm
this is an action-adventure game with rpg elements, not an rpg
sorry sweaty, i don't make the rules! here are the facts:
no character customization (not necessary for an rpg, if there's a good progression system in place)
basic progression system (the same sort seen in games like far cry and tomb raider, which are NOT RPGs)
lone wolf protag (real rpgs, aside from soulslikes and diablo clones, typically let you have (at LEAST) one other character with you at all times)

you can tell me you "role play" as geralt all you want, but you "role play" as jason brody, or link, or lara croft
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deidian Oct 17, 2017 @ 6:08pm 
Well, that's what action-RPG genre is about. Mixing mechanics from RPGs and generic action-adventures. Not a full game of one kind or another.

Still, ¿who cares? ¿Like the game? Play it. ¿Don't? Do not play. Easy. I'm not going to say no to a game I like because does not fall in certain genre.
Ness Oct 17, 2017 @ 6:25pm 
Originally posted by Damián:
Well, that's what action-RPG genre is about. Mixing mechanics from RPGs and generic action-adventures. Not a full game of one kind or another.

Still, ¿who cares? ¿Like the game? Play it. ¿Don't? Do not play. Easy. I'm not going to say no to a game I like because does not fall in certain genre.
it's obvious you aren't the people this is targeted towards, it's to the BEST RPG EVER MADE people
EzRyder Oct 17, 2017 @ 7:06pm 
i would call it more an RPG-Adventure with Action elements :P

not sure where your going comparing one rpg hybrid with another, but most of the games you 'compare' to are hardly what i think of as 'traditional' rpg's
some 'traditional' rpg's i own and have played:
Amerzone
Dark Fall
Schizm
The Longest Journey, Dreamfall, & Dreamfall Chapters
Syberia 1,2, & 3
Myst, Riven, Exile, Uru, Revelation, & End of Ages
Obduction

"no character customization (not necessary for an rpg, if there's a good progression system in place)"
none of my listed games has any character custumization (iirk, some have been a long time since i played them)
"basic progression system (the same sort seen in games like far cry and tomb raider, which are NOT RPGs)"
w3 does have this as far as the story goes - none of my list has any 'skills' if thats what you meant
"lone wolf protag (real rpgs, aside from soulslikes and diablo clones, typically let you have (at LEAST) one other character with you at all times)"
some do some dont, syberia does most of the games but not all - myst series and most others never have a 'sidekick'
im just saying you can classify new games in so many catagories its almost mute at this point. Most all of todays games include multiple 'genre' elements, so you can clasify them any way you want :)
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ⓀⒾⓦⒾ‰ Oct 17, 2017 @ 7:36pm 
not sorry you couldnt make a hot chick in a bikini and have a sidekick to carry your ass
Tyrfang Oct 17, 2017 @ 8:26pm 
ok
Ness Oct 17, 2017 @ 8:52pm 
Originally posted by ᵏᶤᵚᶤ‰:
not sorry you couldnt make a hot chick in a bikini and have a sidekick to carry your ass
oh i don't hate the game, i just don't think it's a great rpg
Imyo Oct 17, 2017 @ 10:18pm 
Not sure you know the definition of RPG tho..

Witcher 3 is rpg.

You play a role, a character, and you define and shape the game acording to your choices, direct or indirect.

The whole new trend of "rpg elements" is messed up, not the definition of rpg itself.

Rpg elements involve leveling, inventory management, progression, etc, all present in witcher 3 too.

Having or not a secondary character with you has nothing to do with being a roleplaying game or not, it just a separate feature, i really dont see how you reached that conclusion.


And yeah, i think its one of the best rpgs ever made, mostly if you played the whole franchise, on pair with Mass Effect trilogy.

Last edited by Imyo; Oct 17, 2017 @ 10:19pm
MaximumEffort Oct 17, 2017 @ 10:33pm 
Originally posted by Imyo:
And yeah, i think its one of the best rpgs ever made, mostly if you played the whole franchise, on pair with Mass Effect trilogy.

Ehm, definiteley not. W2 and 3 is on par with ME3, but not as good as ME2. W1 does not even come close to ME games.

And its a very poor RPG. W3 is a good interactive movie with plenty of good characters, but the RP and most importantly, gameplay, is very mediocre, about as good as Risen and slightly above Two Worlds.
Originally posted by Trash Mammal:
sorry sweaty, i don't make the rules!
did you mean to say sweety? sweaty lol
Last edited by Where's The Lamb Sauce; Oct 17, 2017 @ 10:48pm
Yaztromo Oct 17, 2017 @ 10:52pm 
Originally posted by Imyo:
Not sure you know the definition of RPG tho..

Witcher 3 is rpg.

You play a role, a character, and you define and shape the game acording to your choices, direct or indirect.

uhm, by this logic, pretty much any game is an RPG ...
MaximumEffort Oct 17, 2017 @ 11:06pm 
Originally posted by Yaztromo:
Originally posted by Imyo:
Not sure you know the definition of RPG tho..

Witcher 3 is rpg.

You play a role, a character, and you define and shape the game acording to your choices, direct or indirect.

uhm, by this logic, pretty much any game is an RPG ...

Esp considering that you can't chape Geralt in any meaningful way. He is a predetermined character, with predetermined morals, values and beliefs. ABout the only way player can affect is who he will bang, something W series gained its fame for - lots of banging.

Non of your quest choices actually reflect ingame, nor actually have consequences. You only get a few different epilogues, that vary in combination, but are essentialy the same - fate of Ciri, North, Novigrad and Nilfgard. Besides those, your choices only matter during the quest and are discarded afterwards.

And lets not forget - no stats, perks, traits or anything of the sort. Just AC/FC styled skills you unlock.

Still, W3 is a great game and a great experience, but it does not shine in RP department and there are quite a lot of games, esp in 2015 that were/are quite a lot better.
Last edited by MaximumEffort; Oct 17, 2017 @ 11:08pm
Imyo Oct 17, 2017 @ 11:06pm 
Originally posted by Yaztromo:
Originally posted by Imyo:
Not sure you know the definition of RPG tho..

Witcher 3 is rpg.

You play a role, a character, and you define and shape the game acording to your choices, direct or indirect.

uhm, by this logic, pretty much any game is an RPG ...

I can see why you say that, but not in every game you can actually change the course of the game by doing something, being a choice or just the way you play it. Its a slim line tho, and i understand why its confusing.
MaximumEffort Oct 17, 2017 @ 11:11pm 
Originally posted by Imyo:
Originally posted by Yaztromo:

uhm, by this logic, pretty much any game is an RPG ...

I can see why you say that, but not in every game you can actually change the course of the game by doing something, being a choice or just the way you play it. Its a slim line tho, and i understand why its confusing.

But you can't really change the course of the game in W3. Its always the same course . The outcome changes depending on a few choices in Act3, but the rest is always the same and you won't see any of those ingame, its just narrated. In game, it will always stay the same from start to end.

If won't matter if you kill Radovid and Nilfgard conquers the North, there will still be Redanian soldiers excatly at the same locations they were at the start of the game. Same for any other character.

W3 is a heavily pre-scripted game, so there are virtually no changes or consequences to your actions.
Imyo Oct 17, 2017 @ 11:16pm 
Originally posted by sjrekis:
Originally posted by Imyo:
And yeah, i think its one of the best rpgs ever made, mostly if you played the whole franchise, on pair with Mass Effect trilogy.

Ehm, definiteley not. W2 and 3 is on par with ME3, but not as good as ME2. W1 does not even come close to ME games.

And its a very poor RPG. W3 is a good interactive movie with plenty of good characters, but the RP and most importantly, gameplay, is very mediocre, about as good as Risen and slightly above Two Worlds.

Its an opinion, you cant say "definetly not" to an opinion. And let me tell you, since you like to talk in "facts" w1 released on 2007, same as mass effect 1, can be compared to one another, and both have amazing storytelling, i would personally stick to mass effect in this case, but it much more linear and less ambitious, so each game has its own strenghs, witcher 1 is indeed a larger game compared to mass effect 1, and both had terrible combat.

Mass effect 2 ll allways have a place in my heart, among the best games i ever played and one that left a mark on me as a human being probably, witcher 2 was, ok, just a good game that followed a good franchise, and gave an opening to w3.

Mass effect 3 was a nice game, good combat and gameplay , enjoyed it a lot, but it could be better and didnt live up to mass effect 2, but it wasnt that bad to hit the franchise, overall a nice experience, mostly because its not just a game but the third game of a franchise. Witcher 3 on th other hand, was the contrary, the best one by far of its own franchise.

So, im talking about trilogies, not separate games. The fact that Mass effect andromeda exists is a massive blow, and cannot be forgotten, even if you dont want to see it, or try to avoid it as hard as you can, it blew up the franchise, its over, a total failure, but the witcher franchise is still open to grow.
MaximumEffort Oct 17, 2017 @ 11:25pm 
Originally posted by Imyo:
Originally posted by sjrekis:

Ehm, definiteley not. W2 and 3 is on par with ME3, but not as good as ME2. W1 does not even come close to ME games.

And its a very poor RPG. W3 is a good interactive movie with plenty of good characters, but the RP and most importantly, gameplay, is very mediocre, about as good as Risen and slightly above Two Worlds.

Its an opinion, you cant say "definetly not" to an opinion. And let me tell you, since you like to talk in "facts" w1 released on 2007, same as mass effect 1, can be compared to one another, and both have amazing storytelling, i would personally stick to mass effect in this case, but it much more linear and less ambitious, so each game has its own strenghs, witcher 1 is indeed a larger game compared to mass effect 1, and both had terrible combat.

Mass effect 2 ll allways have a place in my heart, among the best games i ever played and one that left a mark on me as a human being probably, witcher 2 was, ok, just a good game that followed a good franchise, and gave an opening to w3.

Mass effect 3 was a nice game, good combat and gameplay , enjoyed it a lot, but it could be better and didnt live up to mass effect 2, but it wasnt that bad to hit the franchise, overall a nice experience, mostly because its not just a game but the third game of a franchise. Witcher 3 on th other hand, was the contrary, the best one by far of its own franchise.

So, im talking about trilogies, not separate games. The fact that Mass effect andromeda exists is a massive blow, and cannot be forgotten, even if you dont want to see it, or try to avoid it as hard as you can, it blew up the franchise, its over, a total failure, but the witcher franchise is still open to grow.

Witcher trilogy is definetely not as good as Mass Effect trilogy, even if you add MEA instead of ME1.

Sub par gameplay experience in a nicely dressed graphics and ltos of sex does not convince me that W3 is something extraordinary great. It has nothing new, nothing special. It has nic efacial animations on 5 leads, that about it. That does not make it better than other games that have aspired to something new and evolved past their prequels. All W3 did was increase the map size. Golden Standart!

When Borderland get a bigger map, it will be the Best Game Eva!
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Date Posted: Oct 17, 2017 @ 5:30pm
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