Following The Thread - Gwent Card (need help)

[Jimmy Lander]

I am missing 3 gwent cards to finish my collection. One of them is one of the nekker cards which I am supposed to win from Lambert at the end of the quest "Following The Thread". I've completed the main story (spoilers ahead) and in my version he didn't die, and (end of spoilers) the gwent quest also didn't fail, so there must be a way to get that card somehow. Please help, I need to get it.

[Jimmy Lander]

I'm not sure I even played the quest. I don't remember meeting Lambert in Novigrad at all, yet the quest to collect all cards is still active. So how do I get that Nekker card?

[Jimmy Lander]

I went to the Hierarch Square notice board to look for the quest already, only found the "An Elusive Thief" quest where a merchant claims an imp is stealing from his goods. Am i supposed to complete this quest (already did) and wait for "Monster in the Bits" to come after a while? I also read that after Act II the quest disappears (and I've completed the entire story line), yet the "Collect 'Em All" gwent quest is still active :/

[Jimmy Lander]

I'll wait a few days and see if the quest appears, but if it doesn't can you guide me through how to enable the console and what to write please? (also will enabling/using the console have any negative effects on the game like disabling achievements or anything like that?)

[Jimmy Lander]

I actually have Triss' card because I beat Lambert back at Kaer Morhen, but the first one of the final 3 cards I noticed I was missing was one of the nekkers. I'll try using the console later today to grab it and also look for the remaining 2 cards. Be back soon ^^

[v0]

i'd say it's feature not bug for game to let people do things in whatever order and face consequences. completionists need to think ahead what side effects their actions may bring it's part of job in fact ;) you can always load save from before final battle chain of events starts but by then you probably'd already missed some cards or quests.

[Jimmy Lander]

Originally posted by v0:

i'd say it's feature not bug for game to let people do things in whatever order and face consequences. completionists need to think ahead what side effects their actions may bring it's part of job in fact ;) you can always load save from before final battle chain of events starts but by then you probably'd already missed some cards or quests.

I don't see any sense in that "think ahead" part. If I don't know every single quest in the game how am I supposed to know what quests will become unavaliable later on (or even that a quest like "Following The Thread" even exists). Besides the "Collect 'Em All" quest usually fails when your progress blocks you from getting a card.

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by Jimmy Lander:

I'll wait a few days and see if the quest appears, but if it doesn't can you guide me through how to enable the console and what to write please? (also will enabling/using the console have any negative effects on the game like disabling achievements or anything like that?)

Like I said above, if you have alraedy finished the game, then Lambert is gone from the game. There is no way for that contract to appear nor for you to be able to do that quest. Lambert is gone.

As for the Debug Console, it won't affect achievements.

Close your game. And make a copy of the general.ini file located here:

steamapps > common > The Witcher 3 > bin > config > base

Add the following line exactly as it appears here:

DBGConsoleOn=true

Save and exit. Now start up your game. F2 or ` can be used to bring up the debug console. After typing the code, hit enter and then F2 or ` again to close the console. Now there are three different Nekker cards in the game. I have no idea which ones you already have but I'll give you the codes for all three.

additem('gwint_card_nekker')
additem('gwint_card_nekker2')
additem('gwint_card_nekker3')

And since you can't play Lambert any longer, you should be able to find his card at Kaer Morhen. But if you can't find it, this is the code for that one:

additem('gwint_card_triss')

You said you were missing three cards. Which is the third?

It worked, I got the card, but the book of gwent cards still says I need to get 3 more and I'm getting worried. Will the quest still finish despite the fact I got 1 of the cards from the console?

[v0]

you probably can figure out why I kept most important items on my geralt at ALL times instead of stash why I thought carefully in which order I should complete quests especially if it involved killing people or destroying things. i did exploration first and always advanced main quest last. almost all precaution turned out unnecessary in tw3 except a few things but at least I was ready :)

[Jimmy Lander]

Btw I somehow have 4 poor f-ing infantry cards so how do I remove one?
I just saw that I'm supposed to only have 3

[Jimmy Lander]

Actually I did look at a checklist and the player is supposed to have 3 "Poor f*cking infantry" cards. This is further backed up by the fact that there are also only 3 such cards in the physical deck of the Northern Realms. Despite that, there's been a bug in the game which gives a fourth card to Geralt (which I was unable to identified how is being obtained due to my limited research on the topic). Non the less the player is originally intended to only have 3.

Regarding the "thinking ahead" boondoggle I think you should seriously consider the fact that you expect me to be able to foresee a sidequest which is never to be mentioned in the game that gives a special item and involves a key character which will additionally be unavaliable later on in the game. I am aware of the concept of understanding that your actions may affect the story and characters of an RPG, additionally having severe consequences on the outcome of multiple in-game events, but asking me to foresee THE EXACT outcome SPECIFICALLY related to the disappearance of a side quest due to moving forward on the main story of the game without even being slightly hinted towards the very existence of said quest (or even the notion of it becoming unavailable by doing so) is outright laughable and ridiculous. (So is the statement that "thinking ahead is almost a requirement" for playing an RPG)

Another incorrect statement I noticed among that barrage of irrelevant, criticizing and unhelpful replies was the one saying that the "Collect 'Em All" quest would have failed if I hadn't collected all the cards but those which can be purchased or won by random NPCs. This is clearly not true as the topic of this very thread is about an unacquired gwent card, which is part of a now unavailable quest, that also did not fail the "Collect 'Em All" quest that remains active. Additionally I never asked for help about the remaining cards I was missing so I am more concerned about that, rather than the fact you think I am unable to identify which cards I am missing simply because I haven't layed down that information here. Which brings me back to the question how do you think I discovered that the Nekker card was to be awarded through the "Following The Thread" quest if I didn't first go through a checklist to see I was missing it?

I understand what v0 is saying and I am thankful for your help so far but if you are going to resort to bashing your unnecessarily improper attitude in this discussion I suggest we close off this thread as the main issue was already resolved anyway.

[v0]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by v0:

you probably can figure out why I kept most important items on my geralt at ALL times instead of stash why I thought carefully in which order I should complete quests especially if it involved killing people or destroying things. i did exploration first and always advanced main quest last. almost all precaution turned out unnecessary in tw3 except a few things but at least I was ready :)

Why? Has anyone ever reported any issue with the stashes in the game? I've never lost anything I put in any of them.

no not bugs. just some devs design events that suddenly limit access to areas and then hero's stuck with what's on him :) after couple such games one's always prepared :P

[Jimmy Lander]

I don't know why you keep insisting on and emphasizing that you're a "highly" experienced, "professional" RPG player like other people are just not as good (and like it's something extraordinarily important at that) but I have 500+ hours in The Witcher 3 and this is neither the first RPG I play, nor my first playthrough. And frankly claiming I haven't the knowledge of this game's different endings (particularly it being "beyond my scope") is a terribly undisguised and unnecessary insult. I also want to thank you for giving me the description of what a job board is and how it functions, appearing on the map "in bright yellow with an exclamation mark in nearly every village you can visit in the game. They're there for a reason: to attract your attention. If you'd checked them out, you would have found numerous contracts to perform". Clearly you have functioning eyes... congratulations. You're basically telling me to visit every single job board on the map and get all the quests before continuing with the story. Most of the time those quests are there to provide you with coin and equipment, as well as xp. They are not mandatory and if skipping them will prevent me from finishing a seperate quest the least the game can do is notify me (by telling me I failed that quest). Again I repeat myself - How am I supposed to know of ALL the quests scattered across the map which one will give me a gwent card? I don't see any correclation here to being able to "look ahead". Additionally I have more than 4 playthroughs (roughly around 6) of the game and in neither of them have I played the "Following The Thread" quest, and despite that Lambert has always showed up in Kaer Morhen, so I don't really think that's a bug, since considering that not completing a side quest would prevent the main story from progressing seems illogical. If by not completing the "Following The Thread" quest Lambert was to not show at Kaer Morhen, then this would prevent the main story from continuing, which would mean "Following The Thread" would have to be considered a main quest, and it's not. If you are really that peevish when replying to threads you should seriously consider not replying at all, for such ostentatious comments regarding my knowledge of how games work and generally disagreeing with my personal (and presumably other people's) point of view aren't of any usefulness. Once more, I am thankful for your initial assistance regarding the "Nekker" gwent card, but everything from that point on is nothing but pointless confrontation and a zealousness to prove for whatever reason that you know more about RPG games and the way they function than me. (Which even if it is true, I see no point in fighting over)

[Coops]

In my game, In "following the thread", when I killed Hammond at the shrine in Skelege he had a nekker card on his body. After that I returned to the Nowhere Inn and followed Lambert to finish the quest, then I just played a game of Gwent with him in the street (for the Triss card) even though he was pissed at me for not doing what he wanted.

[v0]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by v0:

no not bugs. just some devs design events that suddenly limit access to areas and then hero's stuck with what's on him :) after couple such games one's always prepared :P

There are 5 stash locations. When is access limited to any of them?
-- White Orchard, in the Inn near Elsa -- even when she's gone, the stash remains.
-- Velen, Ciri's room at Crow's Perch -- even after the Baron is gone, you can enter the room.
-- Novigrad, at Rosemary and Thyme near Dandelion -- can use it even after it becomes the Chameleon.
-- Skellige, in Yennefer's room at the New Port Inn near Kaer Trolde -- nothing stops you from going back to that room, even after Yen is gone.
-- Kaer Morhen, Main hall -- your only restriction is not being able to access it earlier in the game.
-- Toussaint, in your bedroom at Corvo Bianco.

Definitely not the case in this game.

nobody said it matters in tw3 (->reread). it does matter in other games. so based on that experience one's ready for such shenanigans in any new game. I suppose you played tw1 so you should know it's one such example.

[Jimmy Lander]

I do not wish to discuss this nonsense with you anymore.

[Jimmy Lander]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by Jimmy Lander:

I do not wish to discuss this nonsense with you anymore.

In case you failed to notice it, those last few exchanges were not directed at you. I was conversing with v0.

I understand your desire to continue your campaign of pointless keyboard warrior insults towards me but I am more than certain that this:

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by Jimmy Lander:

I don't know why you keep insisting on and emphasizing that you're a "highly" experienced, "professional" RPG player like other people are just not as good (and like it's something extraordinarily important at that) but I have 500+ hours in The Witcher 3 and this is neither the first RPG I play, nor my first playthrough. And frankly claiming I haven't the knowledge of this game's different endings (particularly it being "beyond my scope") is a terribly undisguised and unnecessary insult. I also want to thank you for giving me the description of what a job board is and how it functions, appearing on the map "in bright yellow with an exclamation mark in nearly every village you can visit in the game. They're there for a reason: to attract your attention. If you'd checked them out, you would have found numerous contracts to perform". Clearly you have functioning eyes... congratulations. You're basically telling me to visit every single job board on the map and get all the quests before continuing with the story. Most of the time those quests are there to provide you with coin and equipment, as well as xp. They are not mandatory and if skipping them will prevent me from finishing a seperate quest the least the game can do is notify me (by telling me I failed that quest). Again I repeat myself - How am I supposed to know of ALL the quests scattered across the map which one will give me a gwent card? I don't see any correclation here to being able to "look ahead". Additionally I have more than 4 playthroughs (roughly around 6) of the game and in neither of them have I played the "Following The Thread" quest, and despite that Lambert has always showed up in Kaer Morhen, so I don't really think that's a bug, since considering that not completing a side quest would prevent the main story from progressing seems illogical. If by not completing the "Following The Thread" quest Lambert was to not show at Kaer Morhen, then this would prevent the main story from continuing, which would mean "Following The Thread" would have to be considered a main quest, and it's not. If you are really that peevish when replying to threads you should seriously consider not replying at all, for such ostentatious comments regarding my knowledge of how games work and generally disagreeing with my personal (and presumably other people's) point of view aren't of any usefulness. Once more, I am thankful for your initial assistance regarding the "Nekker" gwent card, but everything from that point on is nothing but pointless confrontation and a zealousness to prove for whatever reason that you know more about RPG games and the way they function than me. (Which even if it is true, I see no point in fighting over)

Here's the thing. No one here barged in on your life and tried to tell you how to play the game. You screwed it up all on your own. Then came here asking for help. We offered good advice based on our own experience which you are refusing at every turn.

Most people, when they have an issue, will try to search for an answer on the internet. Most are either too lazy to do that or they haven't a clue how to search for solutions effectively and so they go on a forum and create a thread.

As for visiting every single notice board, yes. that's exactly what I'm telling you because it is part of playing this game. They are highlighted for a very specific reason: to let the player know that there are new notices there and that they may possibly include contracts. And since you are role-playing as a witcher -- well, it does stand to reason that since you are expected to make your living by accepting and fulfilling contracts, that maybe, just maybe, it might be a good idea to actually go to these notice boards and see what's there. Again, I don't believe that takes some super intelligence to figure out.

In fact, many have complained that the game hand-holds players far too much. Yet you seem to require a special invitation to go to these boards and pick up those contracts. So be it. Now I've seen it all.

Four to six playthroughs and you've NEVER once played Following the Thread? Seriously? Did you get dropped on your head repeatedly as a toddler? I mean who the hell does that?

It is a secondary quest and while most are optional, some are critical path quests. How were you supposed to know that? Well, a good hint would be when normal exclamation marks appear on the map for some secondary quests and some random encounters. Those are in white, rather ordinary looking things. Those notice boards when they have contracts on them are bright yellow. Wow, think that might mean they're slightly more important? The rest of the world did but not you. Congratulations.

So let me get this straight. All of your runs were purposefully speed runs where you skipped all secondary quests? Then why the hell bother with Gwent? It is completely optional. You do not require it to complete the game, as you well know with your 4-6 runs at the game.

As for Lambert always showing up at Kaer Morhen, you're right. It's most likely not a bug. It's most likely scripted just as Triss will always be there regardless of whether you let her leave with the other mages to go to Kovir or not. What is a bug however is that Collect 'em All! has not failed. That contract is impossible now to do as is Following the Thread so it should have failed since you should not have been able to get the Nekker card by any means other than cheating (debug console is considered cheating).

The biggest thing you seem to fail to grasp is that exploration is a huge part of RPGs and of this game in particular. You would have discovered most of the secondary quests, nearly all of the random encounters and several of the contracts in this manner. But I suppose you skipped all of those too.

And thanks for the wall-of-text. That was fun to read. You're also welcome for the Nekker card. But you're still stubborn when it comes to understanding what you've done wrong. In fact, in all of your playthroughs, you seem insistent on repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Good luck with that.

was directed at me and in case you failed to notice it, as you would say, my reply was obviously a follow-up and an absolute end to this vile discussion. Now I'm going to use a more direct set of words so I'm sure you understand me clearly - Back off and go on with your life already.