[SPOILER] Why did Avalla'ch help Ciri and Avalla'ch's background?

[Jedi Arron]

I understand that Avalla'ch help train Caranthir so does this mean that he rode with the Wild Hunt? Why did he break away from them and betray them?

Also, why exactly did Avalla'ch help Ciri? Was it just to help her control her abilities and also protect her from getting into Eredin's hands so that Eredin could not invade Geralt's world? Also, why would Avalla'ch care about the Wild Hunt invading Geralt's world considering he worked with them and he also admits that 'killing humans is easy because he sees them as lesser than elves' to Geralt on the boat before baiting Eredin and the final battle?

[Nomad]

Avallach is several centeries old and when he trained Caranthir was just his student and Wild hunt didn't start. He said that he was golden child that turned criminal and that he actually breeded him so to speak.

In one of the lore books in game it says that he was in love relationship with one of Ciris ancestors , so I speculate here that he felt father+daughter of sorts relationship with her. And since his world was dying and only Ciri could save it... Eredin on the other hand wanted to use her to open conjunction and migrate to Geralts world.

[Jedi Arron]

Originally posted by wub:

Big Spoiler if you haven't finished game yet.

I think it's because Ciri could be used to stop the White Frost, which was the beginning of the end of the world. The White Frost is a phenomenon that results in the freezing of entire planets.

I'm not entirely sure how but it had something to do with Ciri being a vessel of the Elder Blood. And later on in the game Ciri enters a portal to "confront" the White Frost. Which then saves the world.

That's why Avallac'h used Ciri. To be able to stop The White Frost.

Hmmm, but then the question becomes 'Why did Avallac'h care so much about saving Geralt's world?'. Was Avallac'h's world and city, Tir na Lia going to be affected by the White Frost as well? Because if so, then it makes sense.

[Jedi Arron]

Originally posted by B3N:

Avallach is several centeries old and when he trained Caranthir was just his student and Wild hunt didn't start. He said that he was golden child that turned criminal and that he actually breeded him so to speak.

In one of the lore books in game it says that he was in love relationship with one of Ciris ancestors , so I speculate here that he felt father+daughter of sorts relationship with her. And since his world was dying and only Ciri could save it... Eredin on the other hand wanted to use her to open conjunction and migrate to Geralts world.

Hmmm, but then the question becomes 'Why did Avallac'h care so much about saving Geralt's world?'. Was Avallac'h's world and city, Tir na Lia going to be affected by the White Frost as well? Because if so, then it makes sense.

[Nomad]

Originally posted by |-TAoW-|-JediArron:

Originally posted by B3N:

Avallach is several centeries old and when he trained Caranthir was just his student and Wild hunt didn't start. He said that he was golden child that turned criminal and that he actually breeded him so to speak.

In one of the lore books in game it says that he was in love relationship with one of Ciris ancestors , so I speculate here that he felt father+daughter of sorts relationship with her. And since his world was dying and only Ciri could save it... Eredin on the other hand wanted to use her to open conjunction and migrate to Geralts world.

Hmmm, but then the question becomes 'Why did Avallac'h care so much about saving Geralt's world?'. Was Avallac'h's world and city, Tir na Lia going to be affected by the White Frost as well? Because if so, then it makes sense.

When you come for Geels... right at the entrance there is Book - report it says how lots of provinces in that world already were lost to white frost... on the other hand Geralts world have not been affected yet.

[v0]

Originally posted by |-TAoW-|-JediArron:

Originally posted by B3N:

Avallach is several centeries old and when he trained Caranthir was just his student and Wild hunt didn't start. He said that he was golden child that turned criminal and that he actually breeded him so to speak.

In one of the lore books in game it says that he was in love relationship with one of Ciris ancestors , so I speculate here that he felt father+daughter of sorts relationship with her. And since his world was dying and only Ciri could save it... Eredin on the other hand wanted to use her to open conjunction and migrate to Geralts world.

Hmmm, but then the question becomes 'Why did Avallac'h care so much about saving Geralt's world?'. Was Avallac'h's world and city, Tir na Lia going to be affected by the White Frost as well? Because if so, then it makes sense.

Yes. All universe'd be eaten by frost eventually and elves world was already in process of being eaten.

But why not get Ciri first save world and then invade Geralts world anyway *evil grin*...

[v0]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by v0:

Yes. All universe'd be eaten by frost eventually and elves world was already in process of being eaten.

But why not get Ciri first save world and then invade Geralts world anyway *evil grin*...

Why? Because if she failed or she died, they would have lost the only person with Elder Blood left since Alvin is dead. They needed her to create portals large enough for their invading armies to go through all at once. Conquer Geralt's world and then they wouldn't care what happened. It seemed the White Frost wasn't yet poised to destroy his world but it was going to destroy the Wild Hunt's.

As I wrote first you get Ciri save world so failure/death doesnt factor in any plans to conquer Geralt's world afterwards. No serious wouldbe world dominator (elven or otherwise ;) can watch idly another rich world within arms reach untouched :) You swoop in enslave population and manufacture Gwent decks or fisstech :D

More seriously I dont see why world's safe from any future elven invasions now that white frost's gone. Maybe next elven ruler'll be fine but nothing prevents second Eredin or worse.

[v0]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

And if she dies while battling the White Frost? They would have lost any chance of escaping to another world and conquered it for themselves. They wanted to secure a new, safe homeworld first.

Then Avallac failed in that regard he only delivered half solution... no new world.