What is life like under Dijkstra's rule?

[Stryker]

Im stuck between letting Roche, Ves and Thaler die (which means Dijkstra becomes leader of the north) or killing Dijkstra.

So the title is what will help me choose

[tonypa]

Like many other quests in this game, there is no "good" option. Both rulers are horrible.

[Stryker]

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

So are you basically asking for ending spoilers and then you can make the 'right' choice?

No the choice I like best. Do you have an answer to thread title or not?

Originally posted by tonypa:

Like many other quests in this game, there is no "good" option. Both rulers are horrible.

I believe you are confusing Dijkstra with Radovid

[tonypa]

Originally posted by Stryker:

I believe you are confusing Dijkstra with Radovid

I am not.

[Stryker]

Originally posted by tonypa:

Originally posted by Stryker:

I believe you are confusing Dijkstra with Radovid

I am not.

So how is Dijkstra horrible then? Since he doesnt persecute mages and nonhumans unlike Radovid

[Stryker]

Thank you. finally a helpful person

[Frosty]

So am i right to say that this happen during the assasination quest from dijjstra?
So spoiler alert?
Lol..
I havent done the quest, and already moving on to skelieger.. im assuming that this quest is ok to hold off until i return to the mainland.
Am i right to hold off this quest?

[Dragonborn of Skyrim.]

you should kill that stupid fatpig and let the ciri rule all of world.

[Dala]

Originally posted by ♕Emily Kaldwin:

you should kill that stupid fatpig and let the ciri rule all of world.

Best ending for the world.

[GoferTeam6]

Originally posted by Stryker:

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

So are you basically asking for ending spoilers and then you can make the 'right' choice?

No the choice I like best. Do you have an answer to thread title or not?

Originally posted by tonypa:

Like many other quests in this game, there is no "good" option. Both rulers are horrible.

I believe you are confusing Dijkstra with Radovid

Radovid has claim. Dijkstra does not.

Radovid can make heirs with claim. Dijkstra cannot.

Dijkstra might be able coerce some nobles to work with him but there will be contenders based on bloodlines.

Radovid isn't an entirely bad ruler. Yes his persecution of herbalists, pseudo magicians and inhumans is horrible but he is getting rid of the influence of mages. Which overall is for the greater good of the North. Heck Radovid single handedly scrounged enough resources from a tattered, bloodied, divided North to fend off the Nilfgard invasion.

Essentially in the long run Radovid is a much better choce for the North. The North would have to worry about a paranoid leader for mabye just Radovid and his heirs rule.

With Dijkstra the North could end up with an endless series of succession wars that would make them the easiest target for Nilfgard.

[Frosty]

Originally posted by Goferknight:

Originally posted by Stryker:

No the choice I like best. Do you have an answer to thread title or not?



I believe you are confusing Dijkstra with Radovid

Radovid has claim. Dijkstra does not.

Radovid can make heirs with claim. Dijkstra cannot.

Dijkstra might be able coerce some nobles to work with him but there will be contenders based on bloodlines.

Radovid isn't an entirely bad ruler. Yes his persecution of herbalists, pseudo magicians and inhumans is horrible but he is getting rid of the influence of mages. Which overall is for the greater good of the North. Heck Radovid single handedly scrounged enough resources from a tattered, bloodied, divided North to fend off the Nilfgard invasion.

Essentially in the long run Radovid is a much better choce for the North. The North would have to worry about a paranoid leader for mabye just Radovid and his heirs rule.

With Dijkstra the North could end up with an endless series of succession wars that would make them the easiest target for Nilfgard.

I think you make a good case. But for me, Emyrs is the lesser evil. Radovid shut down the university just because they disagree to give him his diploma. What do you think if someone refuse to give him his cookie?

[✪❖Horny AWP'er]

#9

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by Stryker:

Im stuck between letting Roche, Ves and Thaler die (which means Dijkstra becomes leader of the north) or killing Dijkstra.

So the title is what will help me choose

There's more to it than just deciding whether Dijkstra lives or dies. If he lives, Radovid and Emhyr die. But if he dies, Radovid could still be left alive which would mean Emhyr dies. If Radovid is assassinated and Dijkstra dies, Emhyr rules the North. Temeria would become a vassal state due to the pact arranged by Thaler and Roche. Essentially Nilfgaard would pull out of Temeria which would then rule itself once more but still owe allegiance to Nilfgaard.

If what you are asking is whether it's worth letting your friends be slaughtered by Dijkstra, the answer is up to you. Do you care so little for your friends that you would just abandon them like that? Are you wondering if it might be for the greater good if Dijkstra became the next despot to rule the North? Well, here's his epilogue if he does survive:

"The 3rd Northern War was a clash between two great strategists: Radovid V, known as 'The Stern,' and Emhyr var Emreis.

Both seemed invincible, yet both were defeated. Nilfgaard, invading from the south, was repelled in the field, while the North's 'supreme leader' fell victim to assassins.

Yet Redania stood victorius, and a man who had thus far operated in shadow took up the reins of power. That man was Sigismund Dijkstra.

Once firmly in the chancellor's seat, Dijkstra ruled the victorious North in his patently cynical and ruthless manner.

He knew that to preserve peace he would need to prepare for war. Following Nilfgaard's example, he consolodated his rule over vast lands through a broad program of settlement and industrialization.

All for the good of his subjects -- though often contrary to their will."

If you're wondering how that would compare to life under Radovid's rule, here's his epilogue:

"Radovid had many faults. He was cruel, impetuous and pathologically ambitious. But he was a tactical genius - that was undeniable. Commanding forces far outnumbered by his foe's, he handily defeated the invader from the south.

The Redanian Eagle spread his wings, taking all the North, including Novigrad, beneath them.
With victory in the war against Nilfgaard secured, Radovid proceeded to complete his witch hunt. As they had in Novigrad, pyres burned in Temeria and Aedirn, lands now 'liberated' by the Redanian monarch. In the drive for moral renewal, simple herbalists, pellars, healers and non-humans - all supposed heretics - were murdered in droves.

For many, freedom beneath Radovid's scepter proved more tragic than servitude to another."

And last but not least, here's Emhyr's:

"The 3rd Northern War ended - the invader from the south achieved complete victory.
Robbed of Radovid's tactical genius, the Northern Realms could not withstand Emhyr's countless legions.

Black banners appeared over Novigrad and all Redania.


Weary of rebel raids, Emhyr var Emreis conceded, restoring Temeria as a realm in liege to the empire. When the guerillas laid down their arms, the emperor shifted his forces to other fronts. Through Nilfgaard's victory, Temerians got their country back, and history once again proved a consumate trickster.

Having dealt with Radovid, Emhyr var Emreis did the same with enemies domestic. The emperor's loyal spies named all who had conspired against him - traders, soldiers and aristocrats alike. Though their mutiny had only been a murky plan, the emperor showed no mercy. As was his wont."

Pls dont forget what is true Emhyr intention, He really want to find Ciri to marry her and **ck her to get hier and also he was after Ciri power to rule over vast land ,become powerful and doesnt care if Ciri dies in the process just like wild Hunt.He is just showing that he want to give throne to Ciri.He even had planned to kill Geralt to get his goal. So for 3 friend u are about to give Ciri and whole Northen kingdoms and making all of them in danger. So, in my opinion sacrifice 3 friends for goods of million Northen people is right decision, saves million from Emhyr madness.

Dijkstra even bring industrialization and development to all North.

[Trapped in Purgatory]

Originally posted by Stryker:

Im stuck between letting Roche, Ves and Thaler die (which means Dijkstra becomes leader of the north) or killing Dijkstra.

So the title is what will help me choose

I said Dijkstra has the better ending because he wants to end all the abuse that minorities have been through (he does help the mages escape in the game), but Roche is also a bro too, so yea. Roche is racist though against elves.

[Pieater]

For the North!

[✪❖Horny AWP'er]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by Goferknight:

Radovid has claim. Dijkstra does not.

Radovid can make heirs with claim. Dijkstra cannot.

Dijkstra can and does sieze control of the chancellorship. That's all he needs to rule.

Dijkstra might be able coerce some nobles to work with him but there will be contenders based on bloodlines.

With Radovid dead and no other of his bloodline alive, Dijkstra as chancellor would rule.

Radovid isn't an entirely bad ruler. Yes his persecution of herbalists, pseudo magicians and inhumans is horrible but he is getting rid of the influence of mages. Which overall is for the greater good of the North. Heck Radovid single handedly scrounged enough resources from a tattered, bloodied, divided North to fend off the Nilfgard invasion.

He's stark raving mad. He's lost all touch with reality. His brilliance as a strategist is what's kept Nilfgaard at bay. He first offered protection and an alliance with Kaedwen and then annexed their lands and resources to his own, thereby doubly its landmass and making it a much stronger and more difficult prize to conquer.

But he'd still be more likely to burn half his own villages and people just to prove a point. He can no longer see reason. His only logic is whatever it costs and the lives of those around him have become meaningless, expendable.

Essentially in the long run Radovid is a much better choce for the North. The North would have to worry about a paranoid leader for mabye just Radovid and his heirs rule.

With Dijkstra the North could end up with an endless series of succession wars that would make them the easiest target for Nilfgard.

Radovid would eventually be assassinated. No madman can rule for any extended period of time without those closest to him taking that final step. Dijkstra is no better than Emhyr in his lust for power. This is why none of them truly offer a good resolution to the conflict because there is none.

These wars have destroyed the kingdoms of the North, something from which they may never fully recover. Foltest led his lands into civil war thanks to his illegitimate children. Henselt had a hatred of nonhumans that rivaled no one else. With him gone and with no heirs, his country fell easily, only to be swept up by Radovid.

Emhyr knew, through two failed attempts to conquer the North, that eliminating some of its rulers would give his third war more chance of success. With all three of them, Emhyr, Dijkstra and Radovid, it's just a question of carving up the lands as they see fit. All Radovid or Dijkstra care about is Redania coming out on top. All the rest can hang and will most likely do just that. Emhyr feels the very same only for Nilfgaard.

It's the game's hallmark that there are always gray areas and unsatisfying decisions that lead to unfavorable outcomes. There is no clear-cut better choice anywhere you look in the game.

Dijkstra however unite all North and bring industrialization and development, While Radovid and Emhyr has scheme to burn mages or hang civil peoples, infact Radovid and Emhyr both have madness, unlike them Dijkstra has some social minded and not racist.

For some part of North (Temeria) most of all north's folk have to die by hang or burn If Radovid or Emhyr Wins.So, u can sacrifice that racist Roche for the sake of all norths not for some few reasons of North (Temeria).

If Radovid win, all mages will die.
If Emhyr wins, many folks and some mages and witchers also will die.
But Dijkstra didnt do such things , he focus on development of North.

[Ackwell]

Through earlier marriages the lawful ruler of Cintra does have a stronger claim to the crown of Redania than some random ex spymaster. Meaning that when you count out Radovids sisters who are a priestess and a sorceress (yeah, Radovids sister is one of them) that basically means that the strongest official claim to the Redanian crown would be the ruler of Cintra which by right belings to Ciri. So in that light why would you support Dijkstra who has no official claim to the crown? You think people of Redania just let him nominate himself as a king? Dijkstras plan make no damn sense at all.