The game keeps freezing my entire PC

[The Udo Gaming]

My PC is more than enough to play it, it doesn't overheat, it's happening since the keep with the talking throne and the demented old man in the dungeon, didn't stop since and made the game impossible to enjoy, it makes me really sad because it was great so far.

[Yoinkyz]

you say its not a overheating issue but it really might be. unity games in general can cause memory leaks and unusually high performance demand on some users pcs. perhaps try another unity engine game

[The Udo Gaming]

Originally posted by Yikes:

you say its not a overheating issue but it really might be. unity games in general can cause memory leaks and unusually high performance demand on some users pcs. perhaps try another unity engine game

I play enough other unity games that work fine, and i hardly think 40°c counts as overheating.

[Yoinkyz]

perhaps try doing a quick windows repair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzJ6z0tJhLo
it doesnt take too long like 4 mins for me since i have a few hdds. its not pillers of eternity at fault imo

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Keep in mind that it must be OS level components that freeze your computer. Drivers, for example, or system libraries. In corner-cases, the game can trigger driver bugs with fatal consequences or BSOD.

Do some trouble-shooting in that area. Downgrade your graphics driver as a test, since "latest" doesn't imply "best".

PoE works on low-end hardware actually. Even with slow hardware it only increases the load, but doesn't freeze the entire computer. For normal game bugs and the game freezing itself, you ought to be able to reach Task Manager and kill the game.

[/|l13n]

my best recommends & easy :

I_SYNDROM :

Freezing.

II_Reasons :

overheat, or virus/malware, or background software, or ventirad/heat issue, or pirated softwares.

btw, if game freezes but not crashes, it's certainly not a game issue, also coz only you got these freezes, not others gamers. PS: tell your config, DESKTOP or LAPTOP, CPU, OS, GFX card & memory. & HDD or SSD but should be okay on both.

III_Fixes i recommend for now (easy & fast) :

1- this will blast all pbs viruses malwares et =

https://www.adlice.com/roguekiller/

complete scan..

& REBOOT,

2- after fix, clean registry with that :

https://www.wisecleaner.com/wise-registry-cleaner.html

or why not Ccleaner ...

& REBOOT,

3- Okay, if not better, upgrade Windows & mostly your GFX card to latest driver.

4- Check TASM MANAGER, to look if anything process handles CPU..

5- Ah !! VERIFY GAME FILES INTEGRITY in game properties in Steam,

6- 40°C is ok temperature for a desktop so i doubt it's overheating but possible : if PC is more than 5 years, renew thermal spâte (pâte thermique) over CPU under ventirad/watercooling stuff..

7- verify "VIRTUAL MEMORY of WINDOWS" : put it minimum & max (both fixed) at 16 or 24 GB... or let "windows do it " checkbox..

8- also try a checkdisk...

...

voilà.

i think it's a background app or virus or GFX issue.

Good Luck !!

[DedZedNub]

@ The Udo Gaming

HARDWARE ISSUES ARE UNLIKELY HERE GIVEN YOUR DESCRIPTION:

Since it seems you have a temperature monitor, I likewise would ignore the suggestions above, as you did. Hardware is not the most likely issue, and one should always first try the less permanent software or game trigger possibilities, especially since you say it happens after a particular point in the game. It might be worth exiting the game and reloading just to free up memory, but is unlikely the issue, unless you see other games having the same issue or other saves from this game.


MORE LIKELY IS AN EVENT TRIGGER IS HAVING ISSUES:

" it's happening since the keep with the talking throne and the demented old man in the dungeon ..." -- problem description.

The above suggests a trigger either by accessing/acquiring the keep, or something about the Talking Throne (even such as a sound event or missing dialog), or the demented old man (npc trigger) are linked to the issue.

I have not yet played the game, but something you said about "the keep" makes me wonder, as customizable keeps or new game features triggering once you have a "player customizable location" in many of these RPGs usually require a trigger, and such an "event" is often enacted by a script. The script tests for certain previous events, may activate certain NPCs, and so on.

This is where I think is the most likely concern. So, if the Keep is customizable, or a player owned location after arriving there, I would look into the likely requirements and bugs that players have reported in doing things in an unintended order. Or if you ended up killing or trapping an NPC in a certain location where he cannot move to then be in the Event, for example.

Or, perhaps, you have inadvertently bypassed or needed a DLC. It is common in these complicated RPGs to find ways to accidentally circumvent via a dialog tree or other player action, some sort of intended trigger, etc., and not know you caused an issue. So look for something like that with people who have a common problem to yours. It can be as simple as one of your party blocking a door, if you get my meaning, which the NPC must walk thru to then trigger the new dialog to activate the event which unlocks the Keep etc, or the next quest after acquiring the Keep.

So, I would first look for a game event that somehow is not being activated correctly, or the contrary, which is less likely, but that you triggered the start of an event which cannot be found, and then it times out as failed or doesn't release the script, so you can't continue. This would be like if you somehow trigger a DLC required event that you don't have, by some unexpected workaround you caused, and so it fails and or waits forever.

I have not played or researched this game, although I own it to play later, and I just wanted to try and support your question and give you an old school rpg way of thinking about it. It is likely that somewhere the community knows the issue and has a workaround or knows what caused it. Even if there is no easy cure, it may point on what to correct, or how far back a save to return to to get around it.

Best wishes. Oh and sometimes it can be as simple, as entering from another door, or not having a certain character with you (say for alignment, or because in the normal original game he didn't exist), and so on. So think RPG out of the box mentality.

And if you do solve it, post the solution, as believe me, you may be saving another hundred people from running into the same game bug and allow them to finish it. When the day or reckoning comes, those people will speak up for you -- like, hey, he cared enough about us to actually help us out -- every little bit counts during that reckoning, ain't gonna hurt you. Worse case you become the Keep Master.

[DedZedNub]

Also, if you were playing the game online, via Steam Online, and somehow the last patch went thru, and you did not restart the game or Steam during that, there is an outside chance that maybe either the update failed and got corrupted, or the game has some other issue realted to such. This would be especially true if you saved during the game's update. This I know from experience with other Steam game's.

So, yes, consider doing a Verify Cache from your Game List in Steam. I think you can just do a Right Click on Pillars of Eternity and maybe get it either via Properties and Local Files or one of the other options. Provided you have not modded the game, no risk to you, and can only benefit you. However, if you have modded the game, you will need to perhaps download those again, activate them, and consider any saves to only work correctly when the mods are on, if you saved with them.

Again, I have not played this game, so I'm speaking in generics, what works usually, and the mindset to consider. But otherwise, sounds like a trigger situation not being satisfied.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by DedZedNub:

Also, if you were playing the game online, via Steam Online, and somehow the last patch went thru, and you did not restart the game or Steam during that, there is an outside chance that maybe either the update failed and got corrupted, or the game has some other issue realted to such.

The game is complete since 2017 and hasn't been updated since:
--> https://pillarsofeternity.fandom.com/wiki/Version

And once more, a bug in the game code cannot freeze the entire computer. Unless it's something that triggers something at the OS level (e.g. driver related).

[DedZedNub]

Thanks for the "... unless ..." , good to know.

I mean I've had software blue screen my computer. I've had blue screen events in the past that the OS could not handle. They ended up software related. Often those are due to dependencies.

I went by, "didn't stop since" and "freeze" , not "freeze my entire computer." But given that, could be even a power shortage or brown-out.

But, just in case, it IS an old wive's tale that a bug in any software cannot freeze an entire computer. Any bug that can be caught by the API or the OS can usually be made to not freeze the whole computer, but you can even freeze the whole computer by simply having a mouse driver run into a situation it wasn't coded to handle, or by hitting a bunch of keys that are not documented to do something (there are certain complicated keystroke combinations, for example, that actually are read at a hardware level or an OS level that will do things like purposefully crash the session).

But my fault for not seeing the title , which said freeze the whole computer. Nonetheless, you can freeze the whole computer by software. Let me know after you allow someone to hack your computer, and tell me how it pans out. It would freeze for you, but not for the hacker.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by DedZedNub:

I mean I've had software blue screen my computer. I've had blue screen events in the past that the OS could not handle. They ended up software related. Often those are due to dependencies.

But what "software"? BSoD is strictly a fatal condition at the OS level. If the underlying problem isn't caused by hardware issues (even if it may only be a spontaneous, temporary issue), it must be due to OS level software like drivers or crucial system processes.

If userspace software contains bugs and freezes or causes hardware load (like causing excessive swap memory usage), the user process can be killed. It doesn't cause an OS level BSoD.

Btw, some players of games don't even switch to task manager when a game freezes and assume they must cut power to turn off the computer and reboot.

[/|l13n]

quote=D'amarr from Darshiva;3880470363407525897]

Originally posted by DedZedNub:

I mean

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Btw, some players of games don't even switch to task manager when a game freezes and assume they must cut power to turn off the computer and reboot.

hahaha !! the RESET LOOP is always best tricky solution LOL !!!!

(edit: 59s to kill RPC service infinite reboot on windows 98 lol...)

Guyz', lol... he's just freezing... THX for great infos..

but you know he's got a "brake"... like a trojan or what... 3rd party maintenance software.. (freezing the game)

RogueKiller always found em even hidden, ON MY DESKTOP !!! (stupid Counter-Strike Romanian kids....)

he must report for we can suggest any helps.....

if he doesnt so...