Paladin sucks at tanking

[swordfish]

So am playing on hard, and almost at end of chapter 1. I have two tanks aPaladin with shild and a fighter with shield. Someone told me to make Paladin tank, but it seems the fighter tank is much and way better at tanking. Damn Paladin dies so often , and his buffs are not worth losing the good tanking of a fighter. Next playthough on diffic Path Of The Damned, I ll use two fighter tanks as they are so great at sucking damage!!

[Frank Wisdom]

Publicado originalmente por snakejishi0:

So am playing on hard, and almost at end of chapter 1. I have two tanks a Pladin with shild and a fighter with shield. Someone told me to make pladin tank, but it seems the fighter tank is much and way better at tanking. Damn Pladin dies so often , and his buffs are not worth losing the good tanking of a fighter. Next playthough on diffic Path Of The Damned, I ll use two fighter tanks as they are so great at sucking damage!!

Being a good Tank has nothing to do with class in this game really. Some classes have good class talents to make them more suited to a certain archetype, or larger Health/Endurance pools, but in no means does it make them suck or not suck at a specific role. I've seen triple crown achievements done with both a Rogue and a Paladin which were built as tanks in order to survive. They were pumped with Constitution and might with the rest dumped in Per or Res. And they were solo tanking the final boss without too much of a hassle (good strategy and loads of Endurance potions used but still). The point here is that it's about attribute distribution with gear and talent optimization. You shouldn't blame a class for sucking if you haven't done your homework. All classes are viable as long as you make the right choices when you build them.

[swordfish]

Publicado originalmente por Frank Wisdom:

Publicado originalmente por snakejishi0:

So am playing on hard, and almost at end of chapter 1. I have two tanks a Pladin with shild and a fighter with shield. Someone told me to make pladin tank, but it seems the fighter tank is much and way better at tanking. Damn Pladin dies so often , and his buffs are not worth losing the good tanking of a fighter. Next playthough on diffic Path Of The Damned, I ll use two fighter tanks as they are so great at sucking damage!!

Being a good Tank has nothing to do with class in this game really. Some classes have good class talents to make them more suited to a certain archetype, or larger Health/Endurance pools, but in no means does it make them suck or not suck at a specific role. I've seen a triple crown achievements done with both a Rogue and a Paladin which were built as tanks in order to survive. They were pumped with Constitution and might with the rest dumped in Per or Res. And they were solo tanking the final boss without to much of a hassle (with good strategy and a load of Endurance potions but still). The point is here it's about attribute distribution with gear and talent optimization. You shouldn't blame a class for sucking if you haven't done your homework. All classes are viable as long as you make the right choices when you build them.

a, not sure wht diffic u talking about, becz am playing hard!! And yes fighters have much better tanking skills!!

[Spielraum]

Paladin tank only makes sense as main and by choosing favored reputation. Each increase in favored reputation is +2 deflection and +4 for the rest if I am not mistaken.

However fighter has the skill that changes %hits into grazes at higher levels. This tips the edge imo.

[❤ FL☰☰K⬤]

Publicado originalmente por snakejishi0:

a, not sure wht diffic u talking about, becz am playing hard!! And yes fighters have much better tanking skills!!

Triple crown is Path of the Damned+Path of Iron+Expert mode.

And stop saying "Pladin" you pleb. Is it hard to not type like a child?

[swordfish]

Publicado originalmente por FpsBoIZLlAmAr✿ #TRAPLORD:

Publicado originalmente por snakejishi0:

a, not sure wht diffic u talking about, becz am playing hard!! And yes fighters have much better tanking skills!!

Triple crown is Path of the Damned+Path of Iron+Expert mode.

And stop saying "Pladin" you pleb. Is it hard to not type like a child?

am tried of grammar and spell ♥♥♥♥ pp go away dude

[Gracey Face]

Paladin is only the best tank when the player character is the paladin as they get bonuses for thier deities favoured dialogue choices. 1 deflection and 2 For/Wil/Ref per rank, and if you game the system you can gain ranks quickly as hell.


NPC paladins do not benefit from the dialogue based defence buffs, which makes them incredibly weak. If you want an NPC tank fighters do the job better. (I hope they fix this at some point.)

At lvl 4 my paladin is near impossible for enemies to hit, though they will eventually get glanced to death. My player paladin has 102 deflection with only 1 rank in each of the beneficial dialogue options. Considering that most enemies you run into have much lower accuracy than that, you can see how that is fairly defensive. And you can pump up reputations easily to buff it further.

Player paladins with high survival to make food and potions last longer are incredibly durable, moreso than any other class. The downside being thier damage output is ♥♥♥♥.

[CaimDark]

Huh, my Paladin tanks and he rarely ever dies.

[The Terror]

Currently maining a paladin with dps in mind, well, as dps as a paladin can be. Duel wield, weapon focus: noble, allows rapiers, mace, dagger (the most versatile focus). End game being The Dagger Dawn in Spring and the Rapier, Vierina Leaves.

Of course your want the 5dr pass talent and a retaliate item.

All classes are good, if you think other wise, it's a matter of not understanding the system. It's not the games fault, it's yours.

[❤ FL☰☰K⬤]

Publicado originalmente por snakejishi0:

Publicado originalmente por FpsBoIZLlAmAr✿ #TRAPLORD:

Triple crown is Path of the Damned+Path of Iron+Expert mode.

And stop saying "Pladin" you pleb. Is it hard to not type like a child?

am tried of grammar and spell ♥♥♥♥ pp go away dude

What's a Pladin?

[Senis]

Yes paladin sucks in very every way compared to fighter. Higher deflection, endurance recovery, engagement of 3 and higher stats.

[DarkExcalibur42]

Publicado originalmente por FpsBoIZLlAmAr✿ #TRAPLORD:

Publicado originalmente por snakejishi0:

am tried of grammar and spell ♥♥♥♥ pp go away dude

What's a Pladin?

It's a kind of fish that goes real well with some lemon butter and a touch of garlic.

[Shrapnel]

ha, I knew it - Paladins are so ...I dunno, except for RP I never understood their purpose on a team - like a cheerleader in plate- they dont really dps, they cant really tank, they just have semi-useless auras and a white knight air about them.

I had a sneaking feeling this is how they would be but I hear so many people playing them (again, for the RP). Im not a min maxer but I also dont like weak links on my team. I'll stick to my fighter tank, no matter how hairy a battle gets when I look to my bottom left side of screen that guy is NEVER dmg'd, love him

[Matthew]

Tis the fate of most hybrid classes. You wanna be a half-assed Fighter or half-assed Priest?

Pladin aren't all that bad though. Equip a heavy 2h and smack enemies in the face with Flame of Devotion.

[Rakesh]

Publicado originalmente por The BASS MASTER!:

Paladin is only the best tank when the player character is the paladin as they get bonuses for thier deities favoured dialogue choices. 1 deflection and 2 For/Wil/Ref per rank, and if you game the system you can gain ranks quickly as hell.

Is this true?

I created a party member who is the Paladin class, is she not getting any bonuses from me being Honest and Passionate (that was her deity)

[Dark Kain]

Yeah the paladin tanking prowess is suppoedly based on their reputation and only the main character actually benefit from this. It's pretty annoying because NPCs paladins feel neutered in their supposed melee role.