Blood Legacy Disappointment (spoilers)

[SerWind]

This quest was seriously lacking in options.

The fact that you cannot free Aelys from the Skaen cultists and then return her to Harond is a bit mind boggling? The fact that everyone treats him like he's the worst human being you have ever met, also a bit mind boggling, considering you can side with a man who hangs his citizens from a tree and murdered his own wife.

Really annoyed I couldn't help Harond try and perserve his line. Guess I'm worse than Hitler :(

[Gabe Newell]

You need Grieving Mother to be in your Party. She can undo the spell that was placed on Aelys.

[AlexMBrennan]

The fact that you cannot free Aelys from the Skaen cultists and then return her to Harond is a bit mind boggling? The fact that everyone treats him like he's the worst human being you have ever met, also a bit mind boggling

This might be news to you, but incest is generally frowned upon in civilised society.

It's not hard to imagine that the developers might intentionally have avoided writing dialogue that could be construed as endorsing incest (which is what returning the girl to her uncle would amount to) because the news media would rip you to shreds (remember the "mass effect sex simulator" story?)

In general, I found that most decisions in this game lack "good" outcomes (do you lie to that pregnant woman to get to use a potion that will improve her physical health, knowing that she will end up utterly distraught when the child inevitably ends up hollowborn, or do you tell her the truth, thereby ensuring that the child will be sick even if the legacy curse is fixed?). Drywood is not a nice place.

[sonntam]

What's the difference between killing Skaenites and letting Aelys come back to Harond and NOT killing the Skaenites and letting Aelys go to Harond? In the end you have the same situation. Aelys would still try to kill him. And you can tell Lord Harond either way what happened to Aelys and that he should watch out, so it's not like killing/not killing Skaenites makes a difference.

[GESTALT]

Originally posted by Gabe Newell:

You need Grieving Mother to be in your Party. She can undo the spell that was placed on Aelys.

Or have your main a cipher...

[SerWind]

Originally posted by Gabe Newell:

You need Grieving Mother to be in your Party. She can undo the spell that was placed on Aelys.

Only leaves you with options that have her run away, like I said.

Originally posted by AlexMBrennan:

This might be news to you, but incest is generally frowned upon in civilised society.

This might be news to you, but genocide and uxoricide are generally frowned upon in civilised society.

[SerWind]

Originally posted by Qwynn:

(which is equally disgusting and thankfully not an option).

That quest-line as a whole is generally uncomfortable.

Why is that thankfully not an option? Would you also prefer if all of the 'evil' options were removed? Is supporting a mass murderer somehow more ok?

[AlexMBrennan]

Is supporting a mass murderer somehow more ok?

Yes, according to the media. Killing is entertainment, sex is evil.

[SerWind]

Ah well, just wanted to vent my frustrations briefly anyway. No harm intended.

[Will Tarlton]

Chief disappointment: discover the ladder in the ruins that leads up into the dyer's tower in Dyrford, be absolutely unable to exit the tower into the village, spend four hours going overland to confront the dyer, and no new conversation options are available for a showdown, nor can you report the dyer's cult association to anyone. No choice, I guess, but to defeat the boss, and that fight looks too tough for me until I gain some levels.

[Hikari.ws]

Originally posted by AlexMBrennan:

This might be news to you, but incest is generally frowned upon in civilised society.

I doubt it. The game is full or situations for us to choose what to do in which no option is perfect. Something always isn't perfectly right or bad, or at least we lose some reward if we do the right thing. See that enchant we lose if we let the guy go with the artifact.

Also, that's not incest. She's the dauther of the sister of his wife. In a moral POV, it's worse him betraying his wife than having sex with a girl from a close family. Of course, he did it on hiding, so he didn't have the family's consent, and some lore estates she as some sort of slave.

The's also the issue of abortion. We're not presented the option to do or not do it - after all, it should be her choice and not ours - but it's still offered.

Also, in the end, there is indeed the option of curing her and letting her go with him, it's just not available in all situations and it's not left clear what requirement is needed for the option to be available. There are many options that are presented redded with the requirement described, not this time.

Anyway, this was one of the best side quests I've seen so far. We have a complex situation that goes unfolding little by little, requiring some investigation and talking to some amount of ppl to figure it out. Also, the dungeon is funny complex, we can get inside it from 2 very separated entrances and find out the other one while exploring, which makes us surprised, and the path is very complex with many ways to go without being a maze.

[White Knight]

Just Obsidian not wanting to get into controversy, everyone knows that the media (and a lot of hipsters, who call themselves gamers) have been hysterical in recent years. They also played safely with Tyranny, in which you end up not being totally evil.

[psychotron666]

There is that option, you just need a cipher.

[Cursed Life]

Even with a cipher you cant restore her mind and bring her back to the Lord, and i agree with the op, i dont know why Harod is seen as the worst person in the planet, he was in a terrible situation

[Du-Vu]

Guy raped his niece for an heir and came after her with an armed guard, basically taking over a small town. This is the guy you want to defend? Sure, this one town happened to have a murderous cult living underneath it, but it's not like Harond knew that.

Siding with Raedric is viewed as a pretty evil thing to do as well. Not sure what that part of the argument's about.

[SerWind]

The argument is you can't really side with him but you can side with a guy who was genociding his own town. Is that really lower down on the rung than ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ your own niece out of desperation? They are both ♥♥♥♥♥♥ things to do but I feel like murdering dozens of innocent people (also out of desperation, but still) is somewhat worse. Why can I side with one and not the other?