Missing Sentries - saving justiciars

[President T]

So I was looking at the Prima guide I got with the game and for the quest 'missing sentries,' it says
"■ [Resolve 13] Continue the conversation, off ering the Clever answer
and asking her how long she’s been stuck here, waiting for orders. She
realizes she’s dead and fades from existence, freeing the enthralled
men without bloodshed."

and

"SELECTIVE TARGETING
You need to save as many Enthralled Justiciars as possible, so concentrate all
your attack strength on Leyra and immobilize the Justiciars for as long as
possible so you slay as few of them as possible."

Yet I get no choice involving resolve, and killing Leyra only doesn't free them.
Only option I have is to kill them all.

Is it simply not possible to save them?
I'm very interested, as from what I read, there's a bigger reward if you save them.

I wonder how many mistakes there's in that guide as this is not the first I've (seemingly) found.

[Flip]

I had no option to save them. I killed Leyra first but they where still hostile so I slaugthered them and looted their corpses. For the char I was playing (Bleak Walker) this was fine but I was wondering myself for another playthrough if it was pos to save em.

[Radene]

The guide is outdated at some points, yes.

[President T]

shucks.. doesn't seem like it

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/73070-leyra-missing-sentries/page-2?hl=+missing%20+sentries

[Coffee Break Hero]

still oof when broken quests in 2022

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:

still oof when broken quests in 2022

It doesn't make any sense to dig out an ancient topic from 2015, since at that time the game was still at version 1 and has been changed massively in the version 2 and version 3 series. Quite some old guides have become invalid due to changes to the game. This topic is vague, btw.

Furthermore, the game's software development life cycle has ended in 2017.
--> https://pillarsofeternity.fandom.com/wiki/Version

[Cutlass Jack]

Its not that the quest is broken as much as the Prima Guide is out of date and error ridden. I say this from personal experience. I'm a kickstarter who's name in the guide has a typo in it.

[Coffee Break Hero]

you say that but when you turn in the mission it's clearly written in a way that should allow you to tell the lady that some of her soldiers survived.

the combat is even designed in a way that makes sense like that narratively... and it baits everyone into trying to kill the ghost-lady first, and not attacking the soldiers

oh well. it's a very minor thing in the grand scheme of things. It's just not obsidian-like not to fix stuff like this years later. this isn't skyrim

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Does it matter? The attack cannot be avoided, and all of them attack, not just Leyra, the Crucible Knights commander that has turned into a banshee (Cean Gŵla). When they attack, why would you ignore the hostile soldiers? Even if you focus on Leyra since she poses the primary threat, once you have eliminated her, you notice that it doesn't affect the enthralled soldiers, so it becomes obvious that they cannot be saved.

Whether ancient topics or quest internals extracted from the game data tell something else, doesn't matter. It's a pity if a benevolent Watcher allied with the Crucible Knights cannot save the enthralled justiciars and must slaughter them, but that's a minor detail only.

[Coffee Break Hero]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

Does it matter? The attack cannot be avoided, and all of them attack, not just Leyra, the Crucible Knights commander that has turned into a banshee (Cean Gŵla). When they attack, why would you ignore the hostile soldiers? Even if you focus on Leyra since she poses the primary threat, once you have eliminated her, you notice that it doesn't affect the enthralled soldiers, so it becomes obvious that they cannot be saved.

Whether ancient topics or quest internals extracted from the game data tell something else, doesn't matter. It's a pity if a benevolent Watcher allied with the Crucible Knights cannot save the enthralled justiciars and must slaughter them, but that's a minor detail only.

immersion and stuff though

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:

immersion and stuff though

Uh oh, won't touch that. The game is short on immersion at various ends, not limited to a missing encumbrance system, an infinite stash but finite camping supplies.

[Coffee Break Hero]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:

immersion and stuff though

Uh oh, won't touch that. The game is short on immersion at various ends, not limited to a missing encumbrance system, an infinite stash but finite camping supplies.

these things have their pros and cons.
lacking the option to save the sentries is clearly only negative and done because of lack of effort