[Spoilers] Hidden ending...

[Boink]

Drull roll.

Ok, it turns out that if you return Wael's scroll to the dragon's skull you get to contact it just before the ending battle, for an additional option.

Interested to know if this is purely contingent on doing this, or if the option is available to everyone. Also interested to know if there's a way to refuse all the God/Goddesses' solutions - I didn't seem to have this option, although I supported Haelya (spelling).

In addition, I saw a thread stating that someone had fought Raedric twice. This didn't occur in my game, and the ending was a little depressing (with nods to the Dragon Lance series). Anyone know the conditions for triggering this?

Anyhow.

Great story, really came together at the end (I finished all the NPC stories - you have to have Grieving mother in your party for the last maps to do so), barring one thing:

If the PC is the reincarnation of the Inquisition's prodigy - the catalyst between Thaos and Icanan's (?) visions of freedom - two opposite ends of the absolutes on offer - then the question remains:

How? And more importantly, what happened to the original soul of the body you're in?


Not quite Torment, but very very good.



p.s.

Didn't unlock the 'visit all maps' achievement - which given I'd run around the entire world beforehand entering every single part I could was a little baffling (including all the nooks and crannies in Defiance). Kinda stumped on that one.

[Boink]

Originally posted by Valyian:

I did not get the first option you named, i gave it to npc that asked for it instead of doing what the scroll asked.

I did not see any way to refuse all the gods.

I did not have to fight Raedric twice

I think the visit all maps achievement and the fully upgrade your stronghold achievement are glitched. I did not get either one and triple checked everything to make sure that i did everything.

You can also unlock the extra ending of helping Woedica, which I just discovered. Hmm. Fairly sure there should be a way for a 7th hidden ending then. I'm guessing you have to promise nothing to any of the Gods/Goddesses.


As for Raedric, I presume it's dependent on helping him initially.

[Boink]

Originally posted by Valyian:

Btw was your ending good or reallly bad? I thought i made some pretty good choices throughout the game but pretty much everything still had insanely bad results in the end. ; ;
I will most definitely be doing a second playthrough just for the fact that my ending results were depressing.

All my NPC endings were good / lead to redemption - I finished all their stories 'correctly' it would seem, even if Pallagina ends up feeling lonely. But even her ending was positive.

Stuff that seems to be conditional:

Raedric - returned as a Death Knight and killed everyone. Not sure how to stop this one: I presume you can't just tank n spank him early game.

Defiance - I backed the Dozens, but had made sure that they liked the Knights: order is restored with the two factions getting together and making the city safe

Leaden Key - I think I missed a trick here, as I never returned to the temple in chapter III. I probably should have gone and made sure they were no longer a threat. Although, Althor's ending was him tracking them all down and preventing them from ever regaining power

Twin Elms - actually, didn't get a report on this at all. Which was weird. Then again, I'd basically slaughtered everyone doing the God of Death's quest, doing Skaen's quest and choosing the wrong poison leading to a mass fight. I was a little offput by the lack of input on Twin Elms, tbh - the Fangs faction were still around and liking me at endgame.


p.s.

The end battle is stupidly easy, even on hard, if you spam paralysis.

[Ruinous]

I wanted to see an ending where I kept all those souls for my character, perhaps empowering to godlike status like the buff I got from the machine in the noble's district, a little thumbing the nose to all the 'false' gods. Sadly not an option though.
Something I noticed about the endings which seems missed there was no mention on whether the god you choose to side with actually delivered any 'reward' to your character, just mention of some long road ahead. If my char became an avatar or champion, you'd think that would have been worthy of note.
My ending was mostly upbeat with a few very dark twists Val ;)

[Boink]

I'm about to do Woedica's choice. I'll tell you how it works out.


Btw, here's a 2 shot kill of Thaos on hard difficulty. :o

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=418077154


Well, Woedica's ending is a bit of an anti-climax. Not much happens apart from she gets her crown back and worship on burial island. No apocalypse or infinite power for the PC.

[Ruinous]

Nice one Boink. On potd Thaos goes immune to damage when he gets lower than injured and restores to full hp once you kill those defenders , or did that manage to bypass that mechanic I wonder.

[Boink]

Originally posted by Ruinous:

Nice one Boink. On potd Thaos goes immune to damage when he gets lower than injured and restores to full hp once you kill those defenders , or did that manage to bypass that mechanic I wonder.

Paralysis bypasses it. You can see the 1 miss, 1 graze, 1 hit right at the top of the combat report: Thaos was the one who got hit.

[Boink]

Ugh.

I went back to an old save, and went to the Leaden Key's lair and wiped them all out. Sadly, it has no effect on the ending for Heritage Hill.

So I'm unsure if it's actually possible to have a good ending for it. I suspect DLC will involve Raedric and Hertiage Hill possibly.

[Boink]

Originally posted by Valyian:

O_O I went back to an old save to look around some and see if i missed anything. My steward had a message for me when i went back to my stronghold from raedric, it demanded that i face him at his keep or he would attack Caed Nua. Heading there now. I'm not sure why she never had this message for me until now? I have spoken to her tons.

Weird.

I often check in with my steward, never had that.

Wonder what the trigger is.

[Nxz!]

Originally posted by Boink:

Originally posted by Valyian:

O_O I went back to an old save to look around some and see if i missed anything. My steward had a message for me when i went back to my stronghold from raedric, it demanded that i face him at his keep or he would attack Caed Nua. Heading there now. I'm not sure why she never had this message for me until now? I have spoken to her tons.

Weird.

I often check in with my steward, never had that.

Wonder what the trigger is.

I found a messenger in the inn at hearthsong, and he told me that raedric came as a dreadknight, killed everyone, and that he was waiting for me

[Pin]

You get the 2nd Raedric quest from a dude at celestial springs in Twin Elms

[rekurencjusz]

Originally posted by Pin:

You get the 2nd Raedric quest from a dude at celestial springs in Twin Elms

you can also get it from your fortress overseer, but not sure what is the trigger - maybe building everything, maybe killing adra dragon (I did both around the same time)

also, I didn't get the option to contact Wael despite returning the scroll to the skull. but I didn't finish the quest by talking to the archivist as I made her hostile through a different quest

[MakkaHS]

Confident 2nd Raedric quest is triggered after you visit hearthsong for the first time and you have killed Raedric once already. May also be level dependant?

[Harukage]

Originally posted by MakkaHS:

Confident 2nd Raedric quest is triggered after you visit hearthsong for the first time and you have killed Raedric once already. May also be level dependant?

Just go a tavern in Twin Elms and speek with a frightened refugee. There are no conditions apart from killing Raedric. Aparently Berath deemed him worty of a revenge and rivevid him as a champion. You can loot nice unique plate armor from him.

As for denying the gods - it is Wael's ending. He offers you to spread soul all around and hide them in unknown places just for the fun and mystery, and send other gods to go ♥♥♥♥ themselves.

[Matthew]

How did you get Woedica ending? I don't think I was able to pray to her in A3?

[Harukage]

Skael or whatever his name will talk to you before you use the machine. He is obvioulsy betraying his allies llike a dirty little rat he is.