Melee vs Ranged Cipher

[shrek83440]

thoughts?

[feliscon]

Ranged Cipher is certainly EASIER to play, but I suspect you can make equally effective melee ciphers if you're up to more micromanagment and being more careful with positioning etc.

[shrek83440]

What type of ranged weapon should i aim for ya think?

[Damedius]

Pistol or Arby

[shrek83440]

where is the 1st place to grab either of that? =p

[feliscon]

I'm perfectly happy with my Warbow, but I do play on Normal and only slightly powergame :p

[shrek83440]

are some of the 2hand ranged weapons can be considered for the "Two hand style" talent?

[Caelinus]

I like my ranged one, though I will probably make a melee one eventually as I like them thematically.

As for weapons, I am probably going to use a hunting or warbow as my primary, or a arby if I have a ranged chanter helping out. (They have the double reload speed chant. It makes them not so crazy slow.)

I will be using a blunderbuss for the secondary.

[shrek83440]

whats the difference between the guns and bows?

if the bows faster.....wouldnt they be better for ciphers due to getting focus?

[feliscon]

I prefer using bows just because it feels better to me, but the consesus does seem to be that guns are mechanically better. Focus gain is 1/4 damage per hit, not a fixed amount.

[Caelinus]

Originally posted by mafiaboss420:

whats the difference between the guns and bows?

if the bows faster.....wouldnt they be better for ciphers due to getting focus?

Focus is received from doing damage. You seem to get ~1/4 of your damage converted into focus. (So 40 damage =10 focus.) Therefore you want the highest DPS, not the fastest weapon.

Draining Whip works best with blunderbusses or fast weapons, as it works per hit.

However, DR is an issue with fast weapons, as 20 - 15 will get you practically nothing, but 50 - 15 will get you quite a lot.

[shrek83440]

ahh so Arby is the way to go ok ty

[la_nague]

dont know about those guns, they rerquire an extra talent.


Also, melee can gain focus pretty fast i feel lile. But when it really matters, i often stay at range in safety, also my melee area is allready pretty crowded by other chars.

[shrek83440]

same la_nague.....thats why i wanna make him ranged...too many melee haha

also melee or ranged....the talent for +accuracy for different weapons i bet is amazing

[feliscon]

Draining Whip is strictly worse than Biting Whip unless you're attacking very fast and not doing much damage per hit (dual weild, using a wand) or are using something like a blunderbuss that hits multiple times per attack.

[shrek83440]

off topic question....just hired a rogue for kicks

how many ppl can you have in the party in "total" running around?