Pillars of Eternity

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boiling pie Oct 19, 2015 @ 2:30pm
adra dragon
How do I beat this?
I'm out of ideas. I did google and found lots of hints. Nothing of it works.
When he does his AoE-attack, it's over.

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Naughtius_Maximus Oct 23, 2015 @ 7:19am 
Try beating to a pulp and hurrah for but hole.
momodave Oct 23, 2015 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by boiling pie:
A deadly threat under my castle is not optional storywise.
Irrelevant. Can you ignore it and finish the game with little to no repercussion? If you've answered yes, then it's optional.
Endaar Jan 2, 2016 @ 2:21pm 
I've now tried this fight easily 50 times with my best attempt getting the dragon down to "injured."

Level 12 party; I play a Wizard, bringing along Eder, Pallegina, Durance, the Grieving Mother, and either Aloth or Kana.

Virtually every strategy I've read calls for one of a few tactics:

Killing the adds first without aggroing the dragon - doesn't seem possible; anytime you get close while in combat - even out of the dragon's LOS - the dragon attacks.

Petrify - I've probably cast 150-200 petrify spells without a single one landing.

I've got plenty of potions and resurrection scrolls, which help a little.

I betrayed the dragon and got the dragon-breaker ability, which likewise helps but doesn't last very long.

Someone earlier mentioned this being like an MMORPG boss. I can see the analogy, and my take is this is a DPS fight, but with the dragon's AoE attacks it's pretty much impossible to even start DPSing without losing a couple characters. And with a couple dead and the others healing or trying to resurrect the dead ones, you're not DPSing.

I'm really curious for anyone who has beaten this fight on version 2.03 of the game to comment. Most strategies out there are from earlier versions and I can't help but feel they adjusted the dragon encounter significantly.

As things stand it seems this is either a fight you win through sheer dumb luck, or something easy for certain party builds and nearly impossible for others.

Endaar
❤ FL☰☰K⬤ Jan 2, 2016 @ 3:17pm 
You know it is an option to look up these type/levels of things on YouTube and pick a video which isn't dated in the first 6 months of release.

It's helpful to SEE other people's strategies rather than just reading about it without seeing how the game of numbers that is involved plays itself out.
Last edited by ❤ FL☰☰K⬤; Jan 2, 2016 @ 3:18pm
Wasted_46 Jan 4, 2016 @ 2:14pm 
if you tried to stick petrify ~200 times and none of them succeeded, then I'm afraid there's something very wrong with your wizard. It is possible to land spells even on Concelhaut who is one level higher by default than your character can be. What is your wizard build? What are yoyur stats? how much is your acc?
la_nague Jan 4, 2016 @ 3:54pm 
dragon is even more BS now with all the immunities.

idk why they did this, the game is not made for all these monster immunities.




they balance their game to death, just chill devs and tweak your new combat system for the next game when you can design everything around it properly.
Last edited by la_nague; Jan 4, 2016 @ 3:55pm
Hauzer Jan 4, 2016 @ 4:44pm 
If you just want to kill it and don't mind cheesing, here is a really easy way...

Approch it close to the broken steps. the Make friends, tell it you're gonna find a way for it to escape.

Go back up broken stairs.

Cast AOE spell from top of broken stairs(might need druid to reach) to where you know the dragon is.

Everything down there attacks, kill everything with ranged weapons and spells, Adra Dragon included, will take 5+ minutes
Shahadem Jan 6, 2016 @ 2:17am 
Why do you want to kill the beautiful Adra Dragon?
lardox2 Jan 6, 2016 @ 3:19am 
The way I managed to finally kill the beast was to hide all my party apart from my tank in the corner by the stairs. I had my tank go forth and get the attention of the dragon then I lured it to the area by the stairs. The dragon is fat enough to block the area, so none of his minions can get past and help him. I had my tank, tank him until he used his AOE breath then sent in the rest of my party, who had been buffed by my priest in the meanwhile. I had my wizard use a paralyze scroll and the random effect AOE spell (in hopes of getting paralyzed again). I then just hit him until he died, annoyingly his minions can still heal him but not by much.

Basically buff your party, separate him from his minions and hope he gets paralyzed.
Last edited by lardox2; Feb 5, 2016 @ 6:27am
Endaar Jan 7, 2016 @ 8:01pm 
Thanks for the feedback. Frankly I got tired of dealing with the dragon and ended up finishing the game without killing it.

Maybe my build was bad, I don't know...but I beat both the undead king and Thaos on the first try, so I don't think my party was horribly screwed up.

ojaiike Jan 7, 2016 @ 8:42pm 
Originally posted by CynicalP:
Definately the hardest fight in the game. I was very frustrated as well. But it is much easier when I did the following: First I betrayed the dragon to get access to the dragon debuff ability. Second I snuck Eder hugging the bottom rocky portion of the map, engaged the dragon, popped his +20 defense ability and postioned the dragon away the remainder of the party. Third, I moved the party at the side of the dragon and had one with high lore use a paralysis scroll, and several other members used summon items to keep the adds busy. Fourth I bebuffed the with the dragon slayer ability and other debuffs then went highest spells/attacks I had.

The key was the paralysis. It gave me enough time to unload on the dragon before she could wipe my party. The Dragon debuff really helps out here. It also made the Alpine dragon fight much easier too.

The summons helps keep the adds off you. I had two adra beatles statues they were enough to keep the adds busy while my party focus on the bringing the Dragon down.

Hope this helps you out.
Compared to alpine its a cake walk.
BOT nic Feb 5, 2016 @ 4:31am 
For everyone saying "oh just resurrect, just resurrect" you gotta admit, thats pretty cheesy. That's cheesier than a box of prepared kraft triple cheese mac n cheese with a slice of chedder on top. The Adra Dragon is just unfair, period. Yes, I killed him, check my achievements. Doesnt change the fact that he's over powered and unfair, even for a fully kitted level 12 party.

You gotta admit, anything that kills Eder in one shot is pretty unfair and OP. He's invincible to everything else. Thaos? Meh. Sky Dragon? Funny. 6 Shades? Try harder. Howabout a room full of spores? Not even close. Adra Dragon? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ son, you just killed Eder in one hit, nice.
Last edited by BOT nic; Feb 5, 2016 @ 4:49am
Valder Feb 8, 2016 @ 1:38am 
You seriously need to debuff dragon, and buff your party in order to stand against them. My Paladin and summons managed to keep adra dragon busy, while rest dealed mobs. Seriously, those most be dealt asap, since they heal dragon or charm your guys. Managed to beat her second try, since I did not expect her to have entire army with her. But you really need to try to stun or paralyze her. Dunno whetever thats lame or valid strategy.
Imo that White March dragon was insane.
Wasted_46 Feb 8, 2016 @ 4:35am 
Originally posted by Valder:
You seriously need to debuff dragon, and buff your party in order to stand against them. My Paladin and summons managed to keep adra dragon busy, while rest dealed mobs. Seriously, those most be dealt asap, since they heal dragon or charm your guys. Managed to beat her second try, since I did not expect her to have entire army with her. But you really need to try to stun or paralyze her. Dunno whetever thats lame or valid strategy.
Imo that White March dragon was insane.
just killed the Adra Dragon without a pries or wizard in party (which most say is a must)
Druid relentless storm + Cipher amplified wave was enough for the mobs. Paralyze scrolls were used.
My ranger and fighter both had enough acc to naturally hit the dragon. My rouge had enouch acc to naturally crit the dragon most of the time, and for no small damage either.
Paladin was yet again the cornerstone of the battle. Liberating exhortation to remove debuffs, zealous focus buffs the whole party, lay on hand heals and finally Coordinated Attacks for the +10 acc on the whole party. Revive was not used since the dragon died really fast and the breath attack didnt kill anybody (my rouge has terribly low HP but high reflex so he avoided most of the damage)

What I wanna try is that whether I can do it without using scrolls of paralyze. I just tried it and succeeded, although barely and it took a long time. Dragon was near death, but his second breath attack killed the whole party. Luckily I had 2 second chances and they managed to barely eke out a win (fortunately the breath killed all of the remaining mobs)



If anybody is interested in the details: hard difficulty, version 2.03

Edér: lvl 14, stats: 16/19/11/12/10/13, end:340
acc: 92, defenses: 81/98/74/74, DR: 16/ 20slash /20pierce/ 8shock
- Items: Tempered helm, Mantle of the Dying Boar, He Carries Many Scars (durgan reinforced), Gauntlets of Accuracy, Ring of Prot/Def, Tidefall (slaying:beast, Durgan refined), Boots of the Long March, Girdle of Eoten Constitution, Warpaint
- Relevant talents/abilities: Armored Grace, Critical Defense, Unbroken, Vigorous defense, Wpn Spec: Soldier, Wpn Focus: Soldier, Wpn Mastery: Soldier, Superior deflection, Two handed style.

Pallegrina: lvl14, stats: 14/14/11/14/13/18, end: 269
acc: 82, defenses: 81/75/69/81, DR:16/ 20slash/ 20pierce/ 19freeze/ 8shock/ 19corrode
- Items: Shroud of Mourning, White Crest Armor (durgan reinforced), Gauntlets of Swift Action, Rose of Salthollow (exceptional, slaying:beast, durgan refined) Ring of Wonder, Ring of deflection, Boots of Stability, Broad Belt of Power, Warpaint
- Relevant talents/abilities: Coordinated Attacks, Lay on Hands, Liberating Exhortation, Dancing Bolts, Reviving Exhortation, Sworn Enemy, Zelaous Focus, Wpn Focus: Knight, Critical Focus, Deep Faith, Two Handed style, Greater Lay on Hands, Intense Flames

Hiravias: lvl14, stats: 14/16/13/14/15/11, end: 265
acc: 75, defenses: 72/84/78/76, DR:13/ 24slash/ 7 crush/ 16 pierce/ 16 burn/ 18 shock
- Items: Pilgrim's Lasting Vigil, Cape of the Master Mystic, Wurmwull (exceptional), Pilferer's Grip, Greenstone Staff (maxed), Minor Ring of Prot, Orlan's Bramble Ring, Fenwalkers, Gridle of Eoten Constitution, Warpaint
- Relevant talents/abilities: Dancing Bolts, Relentless Storm, Firebug, Garden of Life, Venombloom, Weather the Storm, Heart of the Storm,

CritLord (PC rouge, Hearth Orlan): lvl14, stats: 21/10/21/22/9/7, end: 202
acc: 104/104 OR 116, defenses: 52/90/114/61, DR: 11/ 14pierce/ 14freeze/ 6 corrode
- Items: Garodth's Chorus, Lilith's Shawl, Wayfayer's Hide, Gauntlets of Accuracy, Resolution (Superb, durgan refined, slaying:beast), Purgatory (superb, durgan refined, slaying:beast), Ring of Changing Heart, Ring of Prot, Boots of Speed, Belt of the Stelgaer, Warpaint
- Relevant talents/abilities: Blinding Strike, Dirty Fighting, Minor Threat, Sap, Reckless Assault, Withering Strike, Sneak Attack, Wpn Focus:Ruffian, Shadowing Beyond, The Merciless Hand, Gift From the Machine, Vicious Fighting, Two Wpn Style, Dungeon Delwer, Deflecting Assault

Sagani: lvl14, stats: 17/13/12/19/13/10, end: 221
acc: 106, defenses: 64/79/81/65, DR: 9/ 11pierce/ 11freeze/ 14shock/ 6corrode
- Items: Helmet of Darksee, Torc of Defiance, Blaidh Golan (exceptional, corrode- proofed, of dexterity), Gauntlets of Ogre Might, Stormcaller(maxed), Minor Ring of Deflection, Ring of Unshackling, Fulvano's Boots, Coil of Resourcefullness, Warpaint
- Relevant talents/abilities: Driving Flight, Marked Prey, Stunning Shots, Vicious Aim, Wounding Shot, Accurate Wounding Shot, Marksman, Wpn Focus: Peasant, Heart of the Storm, Outlander's Frenzy

Grieving Mother: lvl14, stats: 13/12/16/12/19/10, end: 212
acc: 64, defenses: 64/69/75/77, DR: 9/ 14pierce/ 14slash/ 12shock
- Items: Dunyrid Demon, Talisman of Unconquerable, Gwisk Glas, Bracers of Spiritual Power, Scon Mica's Roar (slaying: beast), Ring of Overseeing, Sigil of the Arcane, Animancer's Boots, Blunting Belt, Warpaint, Scrolls of Paralyze (not needed)
- Relevant talents/abilities: Soul Whip, Arcane Dampener, Borrowed Instinct, Amplified Wave, Biting Whip, Draining Whip, Apprentice's Sneak Attack, Gunner, Penetrating Shot, Mental Fortress, Superior Deflection
Last edited by Wasted_46; Feb 8, 2016 @ 5:28am
Pekotski Feb 27, 2016 @ 10:27am 
Killed her on Hard. Details can be seen on screenshots which are in screenshots section called 'Adra Macabra'. For me the most devastating aspect of the fight was her AOE, which usually decimated my party. After few tries I have changed the tactic and instead of focusing on control I got into close combat and DPS-ed her into oblivion before she could shake off constant series of slashes, crushes and pierces and use her breath even once. I had 4 heroes on her doing melee damage - 2 fighters and 2 wizards with Spirit Lance. The fight itself was very long but that was due to fight with her followers after she was dead. The dragon herself was dead before I could think of any viable tactic for remaining fight.
Before she cornered me in to the area to the left of the cave I have noticed that she wasted 2 AOE's while my party was on the run. After that she never used it once, so I didn't use any resurrection scrolls neither (even once) during the fight against her (I did after, when the mob descended on me). Also, an unplanned side effect of fighting in close quarters and in narrow corner was that, she blocked her own followers from full access to my area leaving just narrow path which was easy to control. Well..., 'easy' is maybe slightly exaggerated (or downplayed) - my hero died while defending the path.
Last edited by Pekotski; Feb 28, 2016 @ 12:35pm
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Date Posted: Oct 19, 2015 @ 2:30pm
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