Pillars of Eternity

Pillars of Eternity

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Dazza Dec 26, 2015 @ 5:18pm
Pillars of Eternity or Divinity: Original Sin?
Can't decide between a game with a good story and horrible combat (PoE) and a game with good combat and horrible story (D:OS). I've read several reviews and threads but still can't decide. Any thoughts?
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Zaniaac Dec 26, 2015 @ 5:44pm 
Both games have two completely seprate combat systems One takes a lot more micro managing while the other relies hevily on the elemental gameplay, which after awhile is pretty shallow. Story whise PoE has a far better story and richer enviorments to it. While D:OS story is well...crap.
Last edited by Zaniaac; Dec 26, 2015 @ 5:47pm
Free Luigi M. Dec 26, 2015 @ 5:52pm 
PoE's combat is quite good. It just gets a tad boring after you play through 100 regular encounters rotating the same skills. But honestly I liked it better than D:OS for the simple fact PoE has far more classes, skills, abilities, weapons that allow for higher variety and planning.
The two games are very different. There is a lot to say about that but I simply am too lazy now.
I personally would recommend both, but definitely PoE over D:OS. There is a lot of room for personal taste in this choice though.
Nkwizitr Dec 26, 2015 @ 6:59pm 
i had the same dillema and got poe. i do not regret it. its a lot of fun, and i like the management aspect of it. plus poe is cheaper, if that helps
_null Dec 26, 2015 @ 7:23pm 
*Prepare the hatred*

If PoE had true turn based i'd be all about it. However ...it does not.

I never found myself bored in D:OS fights.....so I'd choose D:OS.

If you have a friend that would play w/you then it's hands down D:OS
Dazza Dec 26, 2015 @ 8:59pm 
Originally posted by _brand0n™:
*Prepare the hatred*

If PoE had true turn based i'd be all about it. However ...it does not.

I never found myself bored in D:OS fights.....so I'd choose D:OS.

If you have a friend that would play w/you then it's hands down D:OS

I like real time combat such as Diablo, but the PoE looks less satisfying. Unfortunately I won't be playing coop :(
Zaniaac Dec 26, 2015 @ 9:13pm 
Originally posted by Dazza:
Originally posted by _brand0n™:
*Prepare the hatred*

If PoE had true turn based i'd be all about it. However ...it does not.

I never found myself bored in D:OS fights.....so I'd choose D:OS.

If you have a friend that would play w/you then it's hands down D:OS

I like real time combat such as Diablo, but the PoE looks less satisfying. Unfortunately I won't be playing coop :(

Not quite sure why you are comparing PoE to Diablo. PoE Is a CRPG, Wheres Diablo is a ARPG with totally different gameplay elemetns and style. If you want something like Diablo, I suggest Vicker Vran.
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Dazza Dec 26, 2015 @ 9:22pm 
Originally posted by Zaniaac:
Originally posted by Dazza:

I like real time combat such as Diablo, but the PoE looks less satisfying. Unfortunately I won't be playing coop :(

Not quite sure why you are comparing PoE to Diablo. Its not a CRPG, its ARPG with totally different gameplay elemetns and style. If you want something like Diablo, I suggest Vicker Vran.
Um.. because they're both real time I suppose. I don't want vicker vran, I'm trying to decide between PoE and D:OS.
Zaniaac Dec 26, 2015 @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by Dazza:
Originally posted by Zaniaac:

Not quite sure why you are comparing PoE to Diablo. Its not a CRPG, its ARPG with totally different gameplay elemetns and style. If you want something like Diablo, I suggest Vicker Vran.
Um.. because they're both real time I suppose. I don't want vicker vran, I'm trying to decide between PoE and D:OS.
I would go with D:OS then. You quite clearly already have your mind made up. Enjoy the....subpar story
Freely Dec 26, 2015 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by Dazza:
Originally posted by Zaniaac:

Not quite sure why you are comparing PoE to Diablo. Its not a CRPG, its ARPG with totally different gameplay elemetns and style. If you want something like Diablo, I suggest Vicker Vran.
Um.. because they're both real time I suppose. I don't want vicker vran, I'm trying to decide between PoE and D:OS.

Pillars of Eternity is cRPG, not aRPG. It's RTwP (Real-Time w/ Pause) It's in no way comparable to Diablo in any shape, or form. So throw that notion out of your head.

PoE contains the following pro's and cons (Subjective)

+Features a better story, world and characters.
+Beautiful hand-drawn and pre-rendered backgrounds.
+Vastly more interesting lore.
+Decent combat system for those familiar with RTwP.

-Not all dialogue is voiced, and while the writing is superb, the game lacks the genuine humour Larian can pull off (Given the theme of PoE I guess this is really subjective)
-Some companions aren't all that interesting, some are written better than others.
-Combat is the most negative subject. Unlike some IE games that did feature RTwP and TB combat, PoE only features RTwP which is good, but also bad. Depends how you look at it.

D:OS contains the following pro's and cons (Subjective)

+Great TB combat system, easily one of the best.
+Visually the EE of D:OS is improved, and the game looks quite good for what it is.
+Completely voiced dialogue, well wrriten and humour galore.

-NPC's have a tendency to never STFU.
-Divinity has interesting lore, but under utilized in Original Sin.
-Companions aren't at all interesting, and feature only 4 with persoalities (Two of which are terrible)
-Weak story, and while touched up and improved in the EE it still isn't anything to praise over.


Gregorovitch Dec 27, 2015 @ 1:55am 
Originally posted by Free:
Originally posted by Dazza:
Um.. because they're both real time I suppose. I don't want vicker vran, I'm trying to decide between PoE and D:OS.

Pillars of Eternity is cRPG, not aRPG. It's RTwP (Real-Time w/ Pause) It's in no way comparable to Diablo in any shape, or form. So throw that notion out of your head.

PoE contains the following pro's and cons (Subjective)

+Features a better story, world and characters.
+Beautiful hand-drawn and pre-rendered backgrounds.
+Vastly more interesting lore.
+Decent combat system for those familiar with RTwP.

-Not all dialogue is voiced, and while the writing is superb, the game lacks the genuine humour Larian can pull off (Given the theme of PoE I guess this is really subjective)
-Some companions aren't all that interesting, some are written better than others.
-Combat is the most negative subject. Unlike some IE games that did feature RTwP and TB combat, PoE only features RTwP which is good, but also bad. Depends how you look at it.

D:OS contains the following pro's and cons (Subjective)

+Great TB combat system, easily one of the best.
+Visually the EE of D:OS is improved, and the game looks quite good for what it is.
+Completely voiced dialogue, well wrriten and humour galore.

-NPC's have a tendency to never STFU.
-Divinity has interesting lore, but under utilized in Original Sin.
-Companions aren't at all interesting, and feature only 4 with persoalities (Two of which are terrible)
-Weak story, and while touched up and improved in the EE it still isn't anything to praise over.

^^ Pretty decent summary

At the end of the day both DOS and PoE are very good RPGs in different ways and well worth your time.

Most people consider DOS TB combat to be very good indeed but the story a bit light and some feel the Larian trademark tongue-in-cheek humour to grate against the narrative. On the other hand other people don't like their RPGs to take themselves too seriously so they love this aspect of DOS.

Most people think PoE has very strong narrative, history and lore and a much deeper and broader class system. Opinion is a bit more divided on the combat system. If you play it the way it was designed to be played, especially on PotD difficulty, it is knife-edged, intense and exiting with masses of tactical depth. If on the other hand you don't like the micro-management much and get annoyed at the limitations of the PoE party AI (which was added post-release and is a bit half-arsed) you may get far less out of it.

TL;DR is PoE is a serious, well written and deeply immersive adventure whereas DOS is an absolute blast, most epsecially if you play with a friend.
Last edited by Gregorovitch; Dec 27, 2015 @ 1:56am
Dazza Dec 27, 2015 @ 2:19am 
Originally posted by Gregorovitch:

Most people think PoE has very strong narrative, history and lore and a much deeper and broader class system. Opinion is a bit more divided on the combat system. If you play it the way it was designed to be played, especially on PotD difficulty, it is knife-edged, intense and exiting with masses of tactical depth. If on the other hand you don't like the micro-management much and get annoyed at the limitations of the PoE party AI (which was added post-release and is a bit half-arsed) you may get far less out of it.

I'm leaning towards PoE right now. I haven't played these kind of games before and I bet I'm not that good at the serious tactical side. What do you recommend I should do if I buy the game? I'm not sure whether to pick normal or as you say, try out the game the way it was designed to be played.
Last edited by Dazza; Dec 27, 2015 @ 2:20am
Gregorovitch Dec 27, 2015 @ 3:59am 
Originally posted by Dazza:

I'm leaning towards PoE right now. I haven't played these kind of games before and I bet I'm not that good at the serious tactical side. What do you recommend I should do if I buy the game? I'm not sure whether to pick normal or as you say, try out the game the way it was designed to be played.

You haven't got any games like it in your library so you may find PotD too much of a struggle. If you select PotD you can't subsequently change it, but you can freely change between easy, normal and hard.

As you learn the mechnucs of the game, come to understand the maths in the mechanics, and gain more spells and abilities as you progress PoE is like all games, it gets progressivly easier (except particular boss battles) like most games do. This can make PoE combat become a bit repetative if the difficulty is not high enough for you since there is a lot of it. This is your dilema and I can't answer what's right for you.

IF you like to play hard as nails games and like spending a lot of time figuring out a game's mechanics in detail then the brutal struggle of attemting max difficulty in a new genre PotD may appeal to you, it will certainly give a you a game and a half. You certainly won't be able to bish-bash-bosh your way through it. I don't play aRPGs much but I am stupid enough the be playing W3 on Death March which has been an epic struggle to get off the ground and is probably taking me twice as long as most people take to progress in the game. But I absolutely love it!

I made the huge mistake of whimping off PotD in favour of hard first time I played PoE which I deeply regret, but then I have played a lot of party based RPGs like PoE.

Otherwise Obsidian have said the game has been balanced for a reasonably experienced RPG player to get the full experience (meaning combat tactics and detailed micro-management become important) and a good challenge on hard difficulty. Going for hard would be a safe bet, therefore, and give you a good game as well as enabling you to change to normal should it prove too much for you.

Mr.Hmm Dec 27, 2015 @ 5:16am 
Why not both?

Screw the reviews and buy both of them.

They may have flaws but honestly both are awesome. I am planning on buying PoE today (Royal Edition).

I have D:OS/D:OS EE and I will be honest.

I
LOVE
IT
ALOT.

I saw PoE gameplay and I LOVED IT ALOT TOO(but honestly D:OS EE is more fun for me, mainly cause I can kill my m8's in funny ways MUHAHAHA).
And D:OS 2 will make that multiplayer even more fun :P
Davien Dec 27, 2015 @ 6:32am 
get this first.. Divinity Original Sin just came out in Enhanced Edition not too long ago thus the discount is still small. Play PoE first.. many consider PoE to be more superior and realistic compare to D:OS.
Freely Dec 27, 2015 @ 9:19am 
Yeah, I'd say buy both in time. Both are great additions to cRPG genre in full, and with Torment and Original Sin 2 coming out next year, It's a full on cRPG fans wet dream, honestly.

Both PoE and D:OS offer different things to be completely unique to their own, and It's a nice contrast.

Larian is fantastic at humour, and never having their games be taken seriously. Not to say they don't dive into emotional subjects, you'll come across some tragic stories in D:OS - Though PoE has more on that front.

The combat will take getting use to for PoE but it can be fun. Don't treat it like an aRPG.
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