Lvl 11 for final boss

[StickyFingaz]

I know I've rushed the game a bit but I rarely finish any cRPG because it's too many hours for me, so I tend to stick to the main plot since I lose interest quickly. I don't have that many hours available to go through all the games I'd like to play so.

I did unlock the final quest (I think) where I need to jump down that pit and everything. I was level 8 when I was ready to go for the final fight but after reading I should be around lvl 12, I decided to go to the WM. I did the white forge quest at the battery and a couple of other quests and Bounty here and there. Here I am at lvl 11 and I feel like I had enough. I wanna finish this thing and go to Pillars 2 or...finish Underrail ,maybe :)

Am I OK at lvl 11 to beat Thaos on Normal difficulty ? Without too many reloads..

I have to say that the main plot was amazing and was totally hooked but now that It's pretty much done I don't want to do quests not related to it. I totally HATE to grind for XP in RPGs.

[psychotron666]

Level 12 was the cap before DLC, and the game didn't require to be near the cap to finish the main story. Final mission is more for level 8-10 as it was designed, level 12 was only for completionist and you wanted to be that level to fight the optional Adra dragon boss under your castle.

[StickyFingaz]

I am sorry but this is complete BS. I'm at my 5th time now and I just keep getting my arse kicked. Almost everything has been a walk in the park so far, except maybe that fight for the white forge where I've reloaded only once.

I manage to kill both statues with all CC spells I can get. Llitteraly EVERY status effects available to the game are being used. Except those with immunity of course....

I used all the buffs available. Foods, potions etc. This fight feels like most of Pathfinder Kingmaker fights : a buffs and CC festival until you find THAT thing that works. I totally HATE it. F you Thaos !


I would really like to see someone at lvl 8 beat this guy.

[psychotron666]

I've beaten the game at level 9, and I'm not that great at this game. I know of people who've beaten the Adra dragon at level 8 (which is harder than the final boss). So yeah, it's entirely possible and not bs.

Game was designed to be beatable for around level 8-10. 10+ was for the optional mega dungeon and optional boss in caed Nua.

White forge content was all designed to be harder than the main quest and final boss of both white forge parts were designed as harder than main game final boss.

It sounds like you may have turned level scaling for the final act on (when you go to twin elms the game will ask if you wanna scale up levels if the game deems you overleveled (10+). Doing so makes the final boss and dungeon harder, but this was an option added for people who leveled up too much in side content.

[StickyFingaz]

I really don't get it. I have confirmation that scaling was not applied. (I checked Thaos stats on wiki and they are the same as those I see in-game)

I must be stupid as hell or something because the fight at the White forge was stupid easy compared to this.

[StickyFingaz]

The fight takes around 45min before I'm totally wiped. I'm micro-managing every single action. How can you do anything against that crazy Will Thaos has ?? the best I could do was getting Thaos to be ''injured''.

Seriously, who said WM1 final fight was supposed to be design way harder ? that's a total lie. I was level 9 when I finish WM1 and I reloaded only once.

I guess I'm gonna reload before the pit and grind some XP. Even though I totally hate it. Crongrats Thaos, you made me not enjoy the game anymore....aaaaaaahhh

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

You don't need to reach the game's level cap to defeat Thaos. Keep in mind that there are extra achievements for ending the base game with as little kills as possible or after resting less than 10 times. You don't reach level 12 when you do that, since you will be missing quite a lot of XP granted for completing bestiary pages.

Perhaps your team hasn't prepared well for the final battle. On Normal difficulty, if you utilize some of the available bonus options (food, drugs, Survival skill resting bonuses, potions, scrolls, enchanted equipment, unique equipment with bonuses, ...), that will make a huge difference. And even on PotD mode, those options are not mandatory. Furthermore, offense can be the better defense, and trying to survive the onslaught can be a bad idea in many battles. With smart choices like specializing as Vessel killers and/or using St.Ydwen's Redeemer, Thaos' two headmen can be eliminated within seconds.

[StickyFingaz]

The problem comes when Thaos is alone and keeps casting confusion on me. I don't have any spells left to cast Immunity against it since I used all slots to cast Immuned to prone for those damn statues.

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by jess.ruel86:

The problem comes when Thaos is alone and keeps casting confusion on me. I don't have any spells left to cast Immunity against it since I used all slots to cast Immuned to prone for those damn statues.

You don't even have the level 2 spell suppress affliction?

Or the level 4 spell prayer against bewilderment?

No paladin with Aegis of loyalty?
Liberating exhortation?

Theres also enchantments you can put on any gear that make you immune to confusion.


All of those will hard counter confusion and other status effects.

[StickyFingaz]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

St.Ydwen's Redeemer

darn I think I sold that thing. silly me

EDIT (SPOILER ALERT, Kind of):

it turns out it was the only little part of the Battery I did not explore. Awesome. Thanks a lot

[StickyFingaz]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Theres also enchantments you can put on any gear that make you immune to confusion.

huh, really ? how can you do that ? From what I see, I can enchant with additionnal type of damage, give more accuracy, give more accuracy and damage against certain types of enemies...but I don't see anywhere that I can add Immunity ???

Are you sure I can enchant with Immunity or is it only special items found ?

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Affliction immunity cannot be added by crafting:
--> https://pillarsofeternity.fandom.com/wiki/Pillars_of_Eternity_enchantments#Affliction_immunity

[StickyFingaz]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

Affliction immunity cannot be added by crafting:
--> https://pillarsofeternity.fandom.com/wiki/Pillars_of_Eternity_enchantments#Affliction_immunity

Thank you for your usual thorough response.

I did it. What an incredible experience this game was. I'm so glad I gave it another try. Can't wait to re-start Pillars 2 now that I am imbued with all the story and the lore.