Triple Crown Solo is impossible to get nowadays

[Grokitach]

I don't see how to get it.

Got the Triple Crown achievement months ago and now I'm trying TPSolo, and it is impossible or so.

I began a TPS game once with a monk and went far using the attack animation recovery cancel by openning / closing inventory. The game was "rather" easy. But now without that bug, I tried the begining with a lot of classes and aside maxing stealth and skipping most of the quests and fights, there's no viable option.

Maybe Druid or Sorcerer in peacefull mode since the begining is hard with those classes.

I had an easy beginning today with a Ranger until Caed Nua where ghosts wrecks me, even with over 40+ Accuracy.

My bear with the damage reduction skill was invincible or so in the very begining, even against the first lot of bandits. But the 2nd lot bandits to retrieve the smith's stuff is kinda impossible to kill without cheating.

TPS is in fact impossible to get atm without cheating I think.

Maybe I could get it with the bugged animation cancel on my monk (was on the last boss... But I screwed my setup and did not backup my save before the dialog...). But now that the bug does not work anymore, I don't see how to do it.

[Grokitach]

Just saw the "Ultimate Challenge" achievement. That must be a joke, the game is not made to be able to do it (Caed Nua Dragon is impossible to solo without cheating atm).

[imdavidfindley]

The game is built and designed for you to employ your imagination -- not tweak and bug the combat system. It sounds like you sort of rape and pillage a game trying to make it something it isnt. .. when you have NPC interactions, do you use your imagination to play it out in your mind's eye? -or do you still just see the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ little figures on the screen? ..when you enter a new environment, do you see it rise up before you, as if you were there yourself? ..When you have to make a game decision, do you struggle with it as a genuine role-playing experience? ...A simple encounter, a single mission, is actually quite intensive and time consuming. I'm 60+ hours and still haven't made it to dyrford , (and I am still disappointed that I am rushing it.)

[sonntam]

After seeing a priest solo Llengrath I became a believer that anything can be soloed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yw8mfdqIeQ

I think the main challenge about Triple Crown is not necessarily soloing, but knowing the fights in and out till you can solo them all from the first try. I think the proper way to do it, would be first to solo whole game without Trial of Iron and then simply do that again on Trial of Iron.

It can certainly be done, but it's hell of a challenge, obviously.

[Grokitach]

Originally posted by imdavidfindley:

The game is built and designed for you to employ your imagination -- not tweak and bug the combat system. It sounds like you sort of rape and pillage a game trying to make it something it isnt. .. when you have NPC interactions, do you use your imagination to play it out in your mind's eye? -or do you still just see the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ little figures on the screen? ..when you enter a new environment, do you see it rise up before you, as if you were there yourself? ..When you have to make a game decision, do you struggle with it as a genuine role-playing experience? ...A simple encounter, a single mission, is actually quite intensive and time consuming. I'm 60+ hours and still haven't made it to dyrford , (and I am still disappointed that I am rushing it.)

Just, don't say anything more ok ? You are completely out of topic. I already got my share of "PoE is awesome", finished it 3 times already and did the majority of the quests (and of course I read everything if you are doubting my capacity to enjoy well written quests). Anyway, TPS is based on abusing mechanics of the game and mainly on kitting ennemies so...

Originally posted by sonntam:

After seeing a priest solo Llengrath I became a believer that anything can be soloed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yw8mfdqIeQ

I think the main challenge about Triple Crown is not necessarily soloing, but knowing the fights in and out till you can solo them all from the first try. I think the proper way to do it, would be first to solo whole game without Trial of Iron and then simply do that again on Trial of Iron.

It can certainly be done, but it's hell of a challenge, obviously.

Wow that's interesting, thanks. I'll maybe try to finish TPS with my monk since I made a backup of my save before entering the last dungeon (in order to do White March solo).

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by Grokitach:

Got the Triple Crown achievement months ago and now I'm trying TPSolo, and it is impossible or so.

I doubt that. Got Triple Crown later than you and TCS even later than that, and I'm not a pro who will try to fight all dragons solo.

Originally posted by sonntam:

I think the main challenge about Triple Crown is not necessarily soloing, but knowing the fights in and out till you can solo them all from the first try.

That's true. Meta-gaming and practice. Depending on which class you play (I've not played a Priest), it is most important to practice hit'n'run and know exactly into which direction to flee.

[Viper]

Well if you need to exploit bugs to get an achievment. The reality is you have accomplished absolutely nothing.

[Pwnyboy-Curtis]

Originally posted by Viper:

Well if you need to exploit bugs to get an achievment. The reality is you have accomplished absolutely nothing.

Unless the exploitation of those bugs requires a lot of knowledge and skill, in which case you've accomplished something as valid as anything else that requires an equivalent amount of knowledge and skill.

Occasionally devs slip achievements into their games with the expectation people will find some way to do it that they hadn't figured. The World Conquest as Ryukyu achievement in Europe Universalis 4 comes to mind.

A lot of Speedrunning also comes to mind. Lots of exploitation, but a lot of talent and knowledge required. No reasonable person's going to tell them they've achieved nothing because they didn't play the game as the developers envisioned.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

That (most) enemies stop chasing you after some time is not a bug, but belongs to the game mechanics. It gets somewhat more difficult for some mobs that relocate to a new starting position afterwards.

[Viper]

Originally posted by Pwnyboy-Curtis:

Originally posted by Viper:

Well if you need to exploit bugs to get an achievment. The reality is you have accomplished absolutely nothing.

Unless the exploitation of those bugs requires a lot of knowledge and skill, in which case you've accomplished something as valid as anything else that requires an equivalent amount of knowledge and skill.

Occasionally devs slip achievements into their games with the expectation people will find some way to do it that they hadn't figured. The World Conquest as Ryukyu achievement in Europe Universalis 4 comes to mind.

A lot of Speedrunning also comes to mind. Lots of exploitation, but a lot of talent and knowledge required. No reasonable person's going to tell them they've achieved nothing because they didn't play the game as the developers envisioned.

Seriously. If the bug was intended it would not have been removed. All you have accomplished is cheating.

[Viper]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

That (most) enemies stop chasing you after some time is not a bug, but belongs to the game mechanics. It gets somewhat more difficult for some mobs that relocate to a new starting position afterwards.

This guy was cancelling recovery time by opening his inventory. Really difficult isn't it. He achieved so much. And if you cheat an achievment is worthless.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

@Viper

Sorry. That video didn't interest me, and I didn't know you referred to it.

[Marty Chonks]

Originally posted by Viper:

This guy was cancelling recovery time by opening his inventory. Really difficult isn't it. He achieved so much. And if you cheat an achievment is worthless.

And still, it's not cheating. An exploit, perhaps, but not cheating. Now, some ppl claim that any "exploits" are cheating, even those done within limitations of the game design... But then again, is exploiting the AI stupidity cheating? I mean, just because the devs couldn't program or design it better? Same could be applied to other presented game designs. And i say it is not cheating, simply because you will exploit the AI either way by simply playing the game. Or perhaps you, as a "noble gamer", will play full r.etard to equal out the AI lacking; well, then maybe that's what you are.

[Dyer1981]

@ Viper -

If I went to a basketball court and the rim was only 6 feet off the ground, does it make me a cheater for dunking the ball? That is what an exploit is - its faulty game code, an error, that gamers figure out how to use for their advantage, it isn't cheating. Cheating would be showing up to a normal baskeball game with those shoes from Flubber - ever see that movie? Hilarious. But those kids were cheaters.

[Pwnyboy-Curtis]

Originally posted by Viper:

Seriously. If the bug was intended it would not have been removed. All you have accomplished is cheating.

I'm not referring to this specific case, I don't know or care if he was cheating. I'm just correcting your generalization. You may have meant it as some sort of universal truism, you may not have. I don't know. But for the sake of others reading, a correction was in order.

[Elstar]

Techincally this is a single player game and you can't really "cheat". What people do in there own game is up to them, they cheat themself if nothing else. it would have been diffrent if it was a multiplayer game.