I jumped in the pit like a fool!

[MONKWORKS]

Its funny when a moment in a game gets you to start to think about how you play these games. I remember the first time playing Planescape for example. I remember when i was about 18 years old buying the box version from some store (brick and mortar) and taking it home installing, just like BG1,2 that I still have in the box on my shelf beside me here.

I was piissed off at how much reading i had to do back then. I didn't care about the text. I wanted to experience the world and play it my way and wasn't going to get all caught up in the readin's these games have for you.

So spent a lot of time doing nothing in game really lol...I soon learned that you likely need to read some of the text you were presented with ~ so like to understand the story and stuff right? ~ It just wasn't as sexy as running around with my group just figuring it out by killing mostly everything. Basically ignoring the most important part of these game. As i grew up I started to be interested more about the story within the game.

But i am still having trouble losing concentration reading through most of it so I speed-read a lot...

Don't get me wrong. I am a Procurement Software Licensing professional with twelve years experience. I read contracts and ELUA's for a living. It's not that i can't read. I just found the writing to be so silly sometimes and also terribly dry. Talking to farmers for quests or helping villagers has always been dry even without the glowing paths most RPG/MMOs provide for navigation these days...

Like who said the story is good in any of these games really? Right now my party is level 10 mostly. I have delved into whitemarch a few times but pulled out of the mines, because i was getting rolled over by some of the mob's in there.. Ended up trying to solve this Pit quest.. It said throw yourself in the pit to get the Burial isles.

But the game played the joke on me.
My disinterest in the story caught me not paying attention.

If i had read one more line of text.. I wouldn't be the fool typing this right now.

Now i will read the whole text box. top to bottom :)

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Well, if you've reached Twin Elms at level 10 including a bit of extra work in the White March, you've skipped a lot. The base game distributes enough experience points to reach the cap at level 12 early enough, and the expansions raise the cap to level 16.

[smilehigh]

If you wish to continue playing - the game makes an autosave before you jump into the pit. Scroll through your save files - it should be there.

[Eldrane]

Originally posted by smilehigh:

If you wish to continue playing - the game makes an autosave before you jump into the pit. Scroll through your save files - it should be there.

Does the game autosave "before" entering any new area?

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by Eldrane:

Does the game autosave "before" entering any new area?

No. Burial Isle is special, because the game creates a PRE-ENDGAME savegame file, since the pit is a point of no return.

[Finarfin]

I did the same thing the first time I played. I didn't read, or at least absorb, that last message. I jumped in before doing any White March stuff because I assumed that since it was DLC I could finish up everything from the main game before continuing. Wrong. I reloaded the special autosave and just did White March before going back.

I do think the level cap is a little low. You can max out your characters before reaching the final battle quite easily. This time through I'm ignoring a lot of quests just because I don't want to hit level 16 during White March 1.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

DLC doesn't imply post-endgame content.

[MONKWORKS]

Funny - in tabletop games, sometimes!

As a DM/GM offering a pit like this would most definitely trigger a "we all jump in!" response...
Your group knows you didn't spend 10-20 hours creating this adventure for them to die in the first 10 mins..

They already meta gamed and believed there was going to be adventure at the end of that pit! That's really why i jumped in!

I know its very old school.. But isn't the game presented as an old school adaptation?
Regardless, challenge taken. I am going to wipe the floor with this game and whatever boss resides at its end.

[Finarfin]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

DLC doesn't imply post-endgame content.

Of course not, but in some games finishing the original content doesn't preclude you from experiencing DLC. I'm actually glad I didn't buy Pillars of Eternity when it came out. I wouldn't want to finish it and then buy DLC that meant I either had to load a previous save or start the game over completely to experience the new content.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by MONKWORKS:

As a DM/GM offering a pit like this would most definitely trigger a "we all jump in!" response...
Your group knows you didn't spend 10-20 hours creating this adventure for them to die in the first 10 mins..

Apples and oranges.

You didn't arrive at this pit within 10 minutes of playing, but after many hours of playing up to level 10.

Originally posted by MONKWORKS:

They already meta gamed and believed there was going to be adventure at the end of that pit! That's really why i jumped in!

No meta-gaming is involved. The decision whether to jump into the pit can be based on what you've learned about the pit and what requirements would be fulfilled as to survive the jump.

Btw, the more interesting pit is the one below Caed Nua - Endless Paths of Od Nua level 2.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by Finarfin:

Of course not, but in some games finishing the original content doesn't preclude you from experiencing DLC.

Some - not all. One always needs to read up on what a DLC package adds.

[MONKWORKS]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

Originally posted by MONKWORKS:

As a DM/GM offering a pit like this would most definitely trigger a "we all jump in!" response...
Your group knows you didn't spend 10-20 hours creating this adventure for them to die in the first 10 mins..

Apples and oranges.

You didn't arrive at this pit within 10 minutes of playing, but after many hours of playing up to level 10.

Originally posted by MONKWORKS:

They already meta gamed and believed there was going to be adventure at the end of that pit! That's really why i jumped in!

No meta-gaming is involved. The decision whether to jump into the pit can be based on what you've learned about the pit and what requirements would be fulfilled as to survive the jump.

Btw, the more interesting pit is the one below Caed Nua - Endless Paths of Od Nua level 2.

Agreed. cool lookin forword to it!

[asnjas19]

It's ironic you complain about reading too much and the lousy story of poe1 and then proceed to write a 9 page essay filled with your lousy life story .

[MONKWORKS]

Originally posted by asnjas19:

It's ironic you complain about reading too much and the lousy story of poe1 and then proceed to write a 9 page essay filled with your lousy life story .

Oh look its little "Jas Antarctica" with his three freinds...So cuite