Pillars of Eternity

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ray Mar 26, 2018 @ 10:39am
Kickstarter achievement
I think the devs should remove it! It's the only bad thing about this great game. Discuss.
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Gvyomar Mar 26, 2018 @ 10:45am 
Hi. Why you think that? I mean, what reason?

I have not that achievement but I can´t see the problem. I would want understand your point of view.

See you.
ray Mar 26, 2018 @ 11:06am 
Well I think that someone that bought the game should theorically have the possibility of achieving it 100%

You can't even PAY for it anymore it's just... locked.

See you.
Gvyomar Mar 26, 2018 @ 11:29am 
Ah, good point.
Hmmm, then I think the correct would be, if the devs. want thanks the backers with that special achievement , allow only such achiev. in accounts of backers and erase that of accounts of users that no backed the KS campaign. With this form all players can obtain 100 % of throphies/achievements.

But if is not possible this in order to allow backers and no backers with same opportunities of % complete, then I am agreed with you and is not so "correct" put this type of things to give thanks to people of campaigns.
Silvaren Mar 26, 2018 @ 11:42am 
There is Steam Community Guide which describes a method how anyone can unlock this achievement by downloading one file IIRC.
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Gvyomar Mar 26, 2018 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by Silvaren:
There is Steam Community Guide which describes a method how anyone can unlock this achievement by downloading one file IIRC.

This is interesting, first time I know about the guide you mention. Thanks for share the info, Silvaren.
Silvaren Mar 26, 2018 @ 11:51am 
You're welcome.
ray Mar 26, 2018 @ 12:23pm 
Great news, will definitely check that out once I'm close to 100%. This actually rekindled my motivation to play the game! Wonder what the devs were thinking.

Thanks
psychotron666 Mar 26, 2018 @ 7:41pm 
They wanted to give a bonus to the kick starter backers who literally saved the company from closing up shop.
And if they took it away now by allowing others to get it they'd be taking that exclusive gift away from the backers.

Was it a mistake? Probably, that's probably why they didn't do it for the second game. But it is what it is.

The game is super hard to 100% anyway, getting 100% does nothing but give you a personal imaginary gold star, and if you got them all except this achievement then you've 100% the game. You don't need prove to anybody else. Plus nobody would look at your profile and see you managed to beat the game solo. On hardest difficulty iron man run and kill all the big bosses but then see you missing the Kickstarter one and be like "what a noob".
Gvyomar Mar 27, 2018 @ 2:10am 
Originally posted by psychotron666:
They wanted to give a bonus to the kick starter backers who literally saved the company from closing up shop.
And if they took it away now by allowing others to get it they'd be taking that exclusive gift away from the backers.

Was it a mistake? Probably, that's probably why they didn't do it for the second game. But it is what it is.

The game is super hard to 100% anyway, getting 100% does nothing but give you a personal imaginary gold star, and if you got them all except this achievement then you've 100% the game. You don't need prove to anybody else. Plus nobody would look at your profile and see you managed to beat the game solo. On hardest difficulty iron man run and kill all the big bosses but then see you missing the Kickstarter one and be like "what a noob".

Hi. But I understand what OP want say. I mean, some gamers completist would want same opportunities in achievements/ throphies (path of damned and more) , and that achievement of KS is a 0,1 % or whatever of total. Many completist players desire the throphies for "personal" goal like a plus to enjoy the experience, not about profile of 9821731 trophies, 100% obtained, indeed I have the securuty that majority of gamers have profile in private mode and not participate in forums or similar of Steam. So I don´t think OP speak of prove to anybody. It is other matter, if I understand well his/her point, he/she would want that Obsidian support and reward their backers of first campaign like you said but not with this type of reward.

See you.
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ray Mar 27, 2018 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by ἀνάγκη:
Originally posted by psychotron666:
They wanted to give a bonus to the kick starter backers who literally saved the company from closing up shop.
And if they took it away now by allowing others to get it they'd be taking that exclusive gift away from the backers.

Was it a mistake? Probably, that's probably why they didn't do it for the second game. But it is what it is.

The game is super hard to 100% anyway, getting 100% does nothing but give you a personal imaginary gold star, and if you got them all except this achievement then you've 100% the game. You don't need prove to anybody else. Plus nobody would look at your profile and see you managed to beat the game solo. On hardest difficulty iron man run and kill all the big bosses but then see you missing the Kickstarter one and be like "what a noob".

Hi. But I understand what OP want say. I mean, some gamers completist would want same opportunities in achievements/ throphies (path of damned and more) , and that achievement of KS is a 0,1 % or whatever of total. Many completist players desire the throphies for "personal" goal like a plus to enjoy the experience, not about profile of 9821731 trophies, 100% obtained, indeed I have the securuty that majority of gamers have profile in private mode and not participate in forums or similar of Steam. So I don´t think OP speak of prove to anybody. It is other matter, if I understand well his/her point, he/she would want that Obsidian support and reward their backers of first campaign like you said but not with this type of reward.

See you.

My thoughts exactly!

It's not about refusing to give money to Obsidian, I will definitely buy POE2 if they don't have a kickstarter only achievement, it was about it being locked forever to new owners preventing them from 100%ing :)
Still you guys should get the other 98% of the achievements before even starting to worry about that special achievement. It has been a bad idea to create such an achievement just to give something to the kickstarter backers, but deleting it retroactively would be another bad idea.
Gvyomar Mar 27, 2018 @ 10:07am 
No, no. No erase to all users. Erase of accounts that can´t achieve it (no backers). If would be delete retractively of all users (backers too) yes, would be incorrec imo. But not in the first case.

About worry firstly about achieve the others 98 % or not, one matter does not exclude the other. The matter can be discuss anyway and the others achievements is not the concern of user that opened the thread.
Last edited by Gvyomar; Mar 27, 2018 @ 10:09am
ray Mar 27, 2018 @ 2:30pm 
True, also one is more likely to set himself to a task that can actually be completed :butterfly:
Originally posted by ἀνάγκη:
No, no. No erase to all users. Erase of accounts that can´t achieve it (no backers). If would be delete retractively of all users (backers too) yes, would be incorrec imo. But not in the first case.
The achievement is sort of an award for the kickstarter campaign backers. The backers deserve some honor because they have helped with making the crowdfunding a success. Such an award only works, if it's exclusive and if all players of the game get to see the achievement. It's different from the other kickstarter related content backers could "purchase" with their pledges, such as tomb stone messages, named backer NPCs and their short stories or other contributed contents.

Originally posted by 👉:
True, also one is more likely to set himself to a task that can actually be completed :butterfly:
Not credible. Why would you give up early and not work towards completing the various solo achievements? The personal goal would be to unlock those.
ray Mar 27, 2018 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

Originally posted by 👉:
True, also one is more likely to set himself to a task that can actually be completed :butterfly:
Not credible. Why would you give up early and not work towards completing the various solo achievements? The personal goal would be to unlock those.


You're just a sad hater aren't you.

What a sad little person.

Take care :butterfly:
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