Yenwood field

[Monarchco]

wtf? Am I missing something?

I have both ogres, and crucible knights helping. and I shelled out 10k for the veterans.

The I put the orges against the battlemages, and that worked, and I put the knights against the berserkers and that worked

Then when I go into the battle, my side just absolutely freaking melts, and I end up with my 6 freaking people against some 25 well armed enemies.

What the hell?

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by McCloud:

As hard as you work on this thread you'd have that quest beat by now.

The difference is astronomical. after they wipe my army, its at minimum 3 of them for each of my team.

There's now way I'm going to be able to complete it within the next 10 hours in-game. Let alone sooner. And I've spent well under 20 minutes in total arguing with you idiots.

[McCloud]

Don't play on Path of the Damned difficulty, I guess. It's much easier on Hard or just Normal.

[ColorsFade]

Level 5/6 is simply too early to do that battle, IMO. I always wait until I'm level 8. Then it is fairly easy. I would imagine a level 7 party would find it quite challenging.

There's no impetus to complete it early. There is no penalty for putting it off.

This is the classic way that many RPG's have operated since time immemorial: you are presented with content and some of that content is going to be above your level. It is up to you to realize that and approach it on later date when your party is more capable.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by McCloud:

Don't play on Path of the Damned difficulty, I guess. It's much easier on Hard or just Normal.

I am on normal. That's my whole problem with whats happening. My army is literally melting while virtually none of the enemy army dies.

I tried rushing whats-his-name-bad-guy and killing him, no impact on battle outcome. I tried attacking ADS like the battlemage and such first, no impact. I tried sending a team member after their own enemy each to distract the enemy as much as possible and let my allies focus and try to win, no impact.

etc, etc.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by ColorsFade:

There is no penalty for putting it off.

I wish the game has made even remotely obvious instead of telling me, "Don't waste time, better hurry up!"

[McCloud]

Is this thread stuck in a time loop? heh

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by Monarchco:

Me: "No part in the quest until now requires combat"
You: " Not True, the conversation with Emery MAY lead to combat"

Do you understand that "require" means its going to happen? And that I said combat is NOT required, i.e. MAY not happen? I clearly went through the entire quest line up to this point WITHOUT any combat until the battle itself. Exactly how is it "not true" that combat isn't required if I haven't been involved in any?

Once more and only for you: You cannot predict that continueing the individual quests with your low level party won't require any fighting. Going to a meeting could be a huge mistake. You also cannot imply that just because you've met the requirements for some conversation checks to resolve a conflict peacefully would make the entire quest less of a risk. You've been lucky that you could bribe the captain or meet the disposition ranks.

Originally posted by Monarchco:

Going, "Well you should have prepared better" isn't "trying to help me" you putz. FYI, THE INGAME MARSHALL SAYING WE'RE READY MEANS I SHOULD BE READY FOR THE BATTLE. DOES IT NOT? APPARENTLY NOT BY YOUR LOGIC.

Don't shout.

Marshal Forwyn clearly answers your question about how much time would be available to build your forces. The answer is a strong hint that there is no reason to rush, and it doesn't change ever. You've chosen to focus on building your army even before you've gone searching for potential allies. You've rushed with the entire quest to even reach the point where you can assemble an army. Even more so if you're really only level 4. That would mean you've ignored pretty much why you've travelled to Defiance Bay.

Originally posted by Monarchco:

So should I avoid doing ANY quest that says I'm ready for it? Is that how this works you idiot?

No quest says that. Forwyn comments on your troops, but not on your own level. Why would you challenge Lord Gathbin when you're still level 4? Have you done the same with Lord Raedric? Why would you not prepare well? Good equipment. Helpful talents and abilities. Food. Perhaps drugs.

Originally posted by Monarchco:

How much time do I have?
"Don't tarry long!"

aka, Don't wait too long to start the battle! Better move quickly!

He answered "Enough". It could be weeks of ingame time. And "long" could be months. You jump to conclusions.

Originally posted by Monarchco:

Why the ♥♥♥♥ wouldn't I do the battle? WHY would I hold off? WHY??

For reasons outlined above. Only a mad man would not prepare well.

Try going down the Endless Paths of Od Nua immediately after the meeting with Maerwald.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

Try going down the Endless Paths of Od Nua immediately after the meeting with Maerwald.

Why would I do that? UNLIKE THIS QUEST, the groundskeeper at Caed Nua actually points out how dangerous it is and risky it is until I'm better prepared.

See? Its not hard to do. It got the message across fine. This quest, however did NOT.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

Why would you not prepare well?

I thought I was well prepared..... oh idk... *MAYBE BECAUSE THE MARSHALL SAID WE WERE WELL PREPARED*

[McCloud]

Damn it, stop replying I'm trying to play Grim Dawn!

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by McCloud:

Damn it, stop replying I'm trying to play Grim Dawn!

Oh look. A game that actually makes it clear if a quest is going to slaughter you or not. fyi, there's a nifty button called "unsubscribe"

[McCloud]

Originally posted by Monarchco:

Originally posted by McCloud:

Damn it, stop replying I'm trying to play Grim Dawn!

Oh look. A game that actually makes it clear if a quest is going to slaughter you or not. fyi, there's a nifty button called "unsubscribe"

Goat got.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by Monarchco:

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

Try going down the Endless Paths of Od Nua immediately after the meeting with Maerwald.

Why would I do that?

You ignore Kana's biggest wish? You take him elsewhere instead? And how have you handled Lord Raedric?

Originally posted by Monarchco:

UNLIKE THIS QUEST, the groundskeeper at Caed Nua actually points out how dangerous it is and risky it is until I'm better prepared.

See? Its not hard to do. It got the message across fine. This quest, however did NOT.

You still have wrong expectations then. The game doesn't hold your hand that much. Only a mad man would underestimate Lord Gathbin.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

Originally posted by Monarchco:

Why would I do that?

You ignore Kana's biggest wish? You take him elsewhere instead? And how have you handled Lord Raedric?

Originally posted by Monarchco:

UNLIKE THIS QUEST, the groundskeeper at Caed Nua actually points out how dangerous it is and risky it is until I'm better prepared.

See? Its not hard to do. It got the message across fine. This quest, however did NOT.

You still have wrong expectations then. The game doesn't hold your hand that much. Only a mad man would underestimate Lord Gathbin.

Only a mad man would underestimate some "lord" who acts like a child.

Furthermore, people seem to be SIGNIFICANTLY more scared of the "haunted" district in Defiance than Gathbin. And that district was insanely easy to clear.

So really? The game doesn't "hold my hand"? LOL. Apparently its "holding your hand" to tell you that the mission you're about to start is impossible at your current level.

What a joke. Freaking Dark Souls makes it SIGNIFICANTLY more obvious what you shouldn't fight at your level because you'll get rekt. THIS GAME DOESNT EVEN REMOTELY HINT AT IT.

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

Originally posted by Monarchco:

Why would I do that?

You ignore Kana's biggest wish? You take him elsewhere instead? And how have you handled Lord Raedric?

Don't recall any wishes from Kana. And haven't met Lord Raedric. Don't know who that is.
The only 2 companions who have talked to me in depth are Aloth and The Grieving Mother.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by Monarchco:

Don't recall any wishes from Kana.

Exploring the Endless Paths of Od Nua is his personal quest. He talks about it all the time.

Originally posted by Monarchco:

And haven't met Lord Raedric. Don't know who that is.

Oh, really? Then you've just confirmed that you've tried to rush through the game. Eventually, in the areas around Gilded Vale, you've encountered a guy called Kolsc. You cannot avoid him, since it's a forced encounter. He is the quest giver that unlocks the Raedric's Hold quest and a related area. If you've ignored all of that, you've rushed.

The quest name is: Lord of a Barren Land