Stronghold Guests not appearing?

[Stormcaller]

I received 2 stronghold guests, both of which were events where I had to resolve a problem, the difference this time being I had completed both events before. Upon arriving at my stronghold I couldn't find them anywhere, so I was forced to escort them and pay them off, is this a glitch or am I missing something?

[Armanz]

Sometimes you get guests that you can specifically pay off, escort or let them stay at your keep.
They usually temporarily lower your prestige and/or security and sometimes even lower your reputation (permanently) with a city or faction if you don't pay them off or escort them.
They are not the same guests that want to speak with you about something.

[Stormcaller]

Originally posted by Armanz:

Sometimes you get guests that you can specifically pay off, escort or let them stay at your keep.
They usually lower your prestige and/or security and sometimes even lower your reputation with a city or faction if you don't pay them off or escort them.
They are not the same guests that want to speak with you about something.

The two guests I have this problem with are Lord Byrnwigar and Nyry the Deft Hand, I have discussed and resolved both these guest's issues, but they have returned and I can't see them or interact with them beyond paying them off or escorting them, which is my issue

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

As @Armanz said. There are different types of random events and different types of visitors. The stronghold events screen tells the details. Not all visitors can be talked to in the great hall. Some visitors you only need to handle on the events screen and either choose a companion as escort or pay them off.

[Stormcaller]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

As @Armanz said. There are different types of random events and different types of visitors. The stronghold events screen tells the details. Not all visitors can be talked to in the great hall. Some visitors you only need to handle on the events screen and either choose a companion as escort or pay them off.

yeah so what I want to know is can guests who you can talk to previously become encounters you have to escort? Because I'm fully aware there are different Guest types, the problem is that two characters seem to have CHANGED guest types, going from an encounter I have resolved to a generic "Pay off or escort" encounter.

[Armanz]

Originally posted by Stormcaller:

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

As @Armanz said. There are different types of random events and different types of visitors. The stronghold events screen tells the details. Not all visitors can be talked to in the great hall. Some visitors you only need to handle on the events screen and either choose a companion as escort or pay them off.

yeah so what I want to know is can guests who you can talk to previously become encounters you have to escort? Because I'm fully aware there are different Guest types, the problem is that two characters seem to have CHANGED guest types, going from an encounter I have resolved to a generic "Pay off or escort" encounter.

Yes, they can be both types.

[mainer]

One of the names you mentioned, Nyry the Deft Hand, I remember specifically because I paid for his escape to the Deadfire Islands (maybe he'll pay me back in POE2). I believe that there were 3 options for dealing with him, and you had to speak with him in the main hall. The fact that you allready had that encounter, it seems odd that his name would pop up again for an escort mission, as presumably, he's either escaped to Deadfire, in jail, or working his debt off (I think those were the 3 options in dealing w/Nyry, but that was a couple hundred hours ago in my game).

I wasn't aware that names of characters were re-used for other encounters. I've never seen that happen personally.

There is also another type of character encounter at the Keep, in addition to the Escort Missions & the face to face encounters. There are characters that show up seeking employment, which you can hire for defense. Those characters won't be seen unless you hire them, then they can be seen wandering around the keep, and during battles, though you can't enteract with them.

[Auron Starglider]

Sorry for the thread necromancy, but I've run into an issue where I cannot converse with the Supplicant from Twin Elms- he keeps saying he has a matter he wishes to discuss with me, yet when I speak to him, it's as if I speak to random npc with whom you cannot carry out a complex conversation with (his line appears over his head, and that's it).

Edit: Nevermind, I need only have looked in my stronghold mission / prisoner list to see the options - the visitor has been taken care of, and all is well.