Stuck in Raedric's Hold

[gothicwigga]

I cleared the dungeon and the ground floor, but the door to what I presume is some kind of throne room is locked so I cannot reach Raedric, I also cannot reach Nedmar on the above floor as the locks are all too high. What is the workaround please?

[Batbro]

Look around carefully (enter stealth mode) in the chapel hall near Nedmar. There is another route to him.

[gothicwigga]

I didn't realise you had to enter stealth mode to see such things, thanks a lot

[Genghis Cunn]

You'll miss a lot without stealth mode, including sources of loot as well as concealed doors. Higher stealth, see more.

[gothicwigga]

Right, will keep it in mind. I hadn't even been using it prior. Thank you

[RedRum]

Originally posted by Genghis Cunn:

You'll miss a lot without stealth mode, including sources of loot as well as concealed doors. Higher stealth, see more.

Higher stealth does not increase your ability to see hidden things

[ColeTrain1034]

Originally posted by Genghis Cunn:

You'll miss a lot without stealth mode, including sources of loot as well as concealed doors. Higher stealth, see more.

Mechanics increases your detection abilities, not stealth.

[Nicholas Steel]

Originally posted by ColeTrain1034:

Originally posted by Genghis Cunn:

You'll miss a lot without stealth mode, including sources of loot as well as concealed doors. Higher stealth, see more.

Mechanics increases your detection abilities, not stealth.

I thought it was Perception?

[ColeTrain1034]

Originally posted by Nicholas Steel:

Originally posted by ColeTrain1034:

Mechanics increases your detection abilities, not stealth.

I thought it was Perception?

Nope. Perception determines combat accuracy and some scripted interactions. Mechanics determines at what distance you find hidden objects/traps (as well as your ability to disarm said traps), and lockpicking.

[ColeTrain1034]

Originally posted by ASTRÆUS.:

I didn't realise you had to enter stealth mode to see such things, thanks a lot

Also, if your mechanics skill is high enough you actually don't have to enter stealth mode. But in this case, you will probably need to.

[FridgeReaver]

LOL! I played a ROGUE on first attempt and had to wait for the loadscreen, which explains that STEALTH mode includes search mode, but sometimes a rogue finds them due high perception attribute anyway.

Playing the rogue is least fun, but maximum utility. If one takes wound binding and two weapon fighting one can even use the torch as fire baton and still get all the jobs done. Sadly the game, due stronghold demands, isn't much for the solitary rogue...

[ColeTrain1034]

Originally posted by Pietroschek:

LOL! I played a ROGUE on first attempt and had to wait for the loadscreen, which explains that STEALTH mode includes search mode, but sometimes a rogue finds them due high perception attribute anyway.

I'll reiterate: Perception does not affect your ability to find secrets/traps. It is likely your rogue found things easily due to its naturally high mechanics (and I assume you continued to increase your mechanics on level ups - either way perception does not affect this).

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

The loading screen comments on Perception attribute checks during conversation and scripted interactions.

[Zico]

Originally posted by ColeTrain1034:

Originally posted by Pietroschek:

LOL! I played a ROGUE on first attempt and had to wait for the loadscreen, which explains that STEALTH mode includes search mode, but sometimes a rogue finds them due high perception attribute anyway.

I'll reiterate: Perception does not affect your ability to find secrets/traps. It is likely your rogue found things easily due to its naturally high mechanics (and I assume you continued to increase your mechanics on level ups - either way perception does not affect this).

Perception has no impact on the difficulty check for finding hidden objects, but with high perception you can detect hidden objects without stealth (it effects the spotting radius) given that your mechanics skill is high enough.

[ColeTrain1034]

Originally posted by Zico:

Originally posted by ColeTrain1034:

I'll reiterate: Perception does not affect your ability to find secrets/traps. It is likely your rogue found things easily due to its naturally high mechanics (and I assume you continued to increase your mechanics on level ups - either way perception does not affect this).

Perception has no impact on the difficulty check for finding hidden objects, but with high perception you can detect hidden objects without stealth (it effects the spotting radius) given that your mechanics skill is high enough.

You don't need that to be the case. Even without the Perception, a high mechanics skill will help you spot items without being in scouting mode. Spotting radius is determined by mechanics.

http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Mechanics

"The higher a party member's Mechanics skill, the larger the distance in which it will detect traps and hidden objects, like stashes, switches or items. With a low skill these may only be detected while in Scouting Mode, where higher levels will reveal some of them without scouting, depending e.g. on the trap's difficulty level."

[Nicholas Steel]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

The loading screen comments on Perception attribute checks during conversation and scripted interactions.

scripted interactions is when using the grappling hook, chisel, crowbar, climbing vines etc. The screen you see during those kinds of interactions is afaik what constitutes a scripted action.