What i think about the sword

[Tinfoil hat theorist :^)]

This is based on my own opinion, but also what i've heard from others. I'll be using quotes from reddit to prove some of my points. If you do not agree, please do write that huge wall of text explaining why Ulgrim is the most op character, and why Asuri and Hattori should be played more.

"Everyone with sword.
Everything else is trash."

"A good and fair nerf to sword that would balance it in a sword-hating Hattori's opinion"

"too many good tools combined, nothing is bad with the sword. Sair has good hitboxes, speed, force.. Nair has very safe hitboxes, speed and force and can KO ppl in red as much as it can gimp.. Dair is the same.. Nlight is very fast and has nice damage.. slight the same.. i think nothing is overpowered by itself... its just the amount of tools combined makes the sword a little bit too strong"

"Sair, Dair and Nair all hit while stacked actually.... it's pretty insane."

"It's not high risk-high reward like the axe, it doesnt trade more range for lack of close range attacks like the guns, it doesnt trade fast speed and combo potential for short range like the katars, etc etc
It's just...really safe."

"I totally agree on the range of the sword in general. Sair has too much range and that is due to the extremely generous hitboxes on the sword."

"I agree. Sword sair is a reliable kill move when both on stage and while edgeguarding. It's too safe and too powerful."

"Sword side air is ridiculous right now and it absolutely HAS to get nerfed."

"Nair and dair are extremely strong. Huge hitbox size and force behind it."

"Dair and Nair just have too huge of hitboxes. Overly generous hitboxes are really the main problem with sword."

All of these comments are from diffirent people, trying to prove that sword is too good.

I honestly hate playing against sword. It's fast, good damage great combos and really no downsides. And before you go "Just try it out yourself and find it's weaknesses" i've tried it, and it's just rediculously easy. I've played a very small amount of sword, but i still manage to win with it. All in all, make it be more risk, instead of being super safe, and easy to use. And come on. When the hell does this sword meta stop? It's been what, oh yeah, since the very beginning on the game. It's even been nerfed countless times and it's still one of the best, if the the best weapon in the game.

So here you are at the end, getting ready to call me a crying noob or an idiot for saying my opinion. So, yes it's another ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but based around other peoples opinions. That's something original.
And i'll keep on my holy quest to never play sword (Unless i get it in random, which i can't control), because of my belief that it's the most op weapon in the game.

Sincerely, Crybaby ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Jecksa]

I only got 48h in Brawlhalla so this is just my opinion of the experience i made so far in the game. I just got to gold so i absolutly cant tell if sword is broken in the upper ranks.

Sword feels like a noob friendly weapon and thus i played a lot of sword when i started since it feels, like you mentioned, pretty save and strong and this noob friendly weapon becomes a powerhouse in the right hands and in the upper ranks.

But tbh ive got the feeling that this is the case for every weapon. I think sword is just one of the weapons that you can learn faster then others and becomes fast a reliable weapon.

In the other hand because of the high usage rate of sword i was able to learn how to play against it rly quickly, but that just means that i learned the range of sword, its combos and how to avoid it sometimes.

The downside of the high usage rate, i am extremly bad against blaster and lance players so those became my most hated weapons, wich in your case is the sword.

Well this is just my opinion so far and i dont know how strong sword becomes in plat/dia compared to the other weapons, so my opinion could change very quickly when i reach this point.

[Tinfoil hat theorist :^)]

Originally posted by Jecksa:

I only got 48h in Brawlhalla so this is just my opinion of the experience i made so far in the game. I just got to gold so i absolutly cant tell if sword is broken in the upper ranks.

Sword feels like a noob friendly weapon and thus i played a lot of sword when i started since it feels, like you mentioned, pretty save and strong and this noob friendly weapon becomes a powerhouse in the right hands and in the upper ranks.

But tbh ive got the feeling that this is the case for every weapon. I think sword is just one of the weapons that you can learn faster then others and becomes fast a reliable weapon.

In the other hand because of the high usage rate of sword i was able to learn how to play against it rly quickly, but that just means that i learned the range of sword, its combos and how to avoid it sometimes.

The downside of the high usage rate, i am extremly bad against blaster and lance players so those became my most hated weapons, wich in your case is the sword.

Well this is just my opinion so far and i dont know how strong sword becomes in plat/dia compared to the other weapons, so my opinion could change very quickly when i reach this point.

One of the problems i have with the sword is how much it's used. It's just plain stupid. Like 75% of people i meet play a character with sword.
And compared to other weapons, it has no downsides at all. Katats are just as hard to punish, but they have very little combo potential and range. Axe is slow af and has no combo potential and so on. It's just that the sword is so fast and has so good combo potential that makes me dislike the sword as much as much as i do.

[Foot Sprungus the Second]

Sword is too reliable for beginners. It needs some sort of nerf since at the moment it should just be called the gimp stick. SLight>Slight>Slight>Slight>Slight>Slight>NSig and BOOM, KO

[Tinfoil hat theorist :^)]

Originally posted by MC | Tylenol:

Sword is too reliable for beginners. It needs some sort of nerf since at the moment it should just be called the gimp stick. SLight>Slight>Slight>Slight>Slight>Slight>NSig and BOOM, KO

And gp>dair>gp>dair
Also Gimp stick sounds more fitting than sword tbh

[Cubey3]

Originally posted by Stulte:

Originally posted by MC | Tylenol:

Sword is too reliable for beginners. It needs some sort of nerf since at the moment it should just be called the gimp stick. SLight>Slight>Slight>Slight>Slight>Slight>NSig and BOOM, KO

And gp>dair>gp>dair
Also Gimp stick sounds more fitting than sword tbh

XD perfect name for it

Also, i agree with this post, the sword is ridiculously overused, we could tell fox was OP because he was the 20XX character that everyone played to get the best chance at winning, over here we have the sword as the 20XX weapon. I want to mainly see it nerfed for 2 reasons
1- more variety in tournaments
2- its quite difficult to deal with as a good sword player can constantly protect themselves with fast and generous hitboxes making it difficult (but not impossible) to find a weakspot, and oh boy if you want to feel true pain, fight sword with katars

[BlackWaterGaming]

imo swords like the one guy said individual moves arnt op but all of em together is wat makes it a lil unbalanced, except the air game the nair dair and sair r all a lil insane. either a hitbox nerf or a force nerf would really be nice for them. far as the rest of the sword, maybe a damage nerf like the katars? i hoenstly dont no anymore, seems like faster close range weps like sword, gauntlets, katars all got alot stronger with mechanic changes, simply because they can chase down slower legends with the chain dodging more easily, or quickly get in their faces from longer distances, and the throws mean u cant point blank em to give urself a opening up close anymore. i honestly hope bmg realizes that these changes has made close range weps stronger, the katars got a good nerf so i hope they realize it but u never know.

[Mr.Meatballs]

Originally posted by Stulte:

Originally posted by Jecksa:

I only got 48h in Brawlhalla so this is just my opinion of the experience i made so far in the game. I just got to gold so i absolutly cant tell if sword is broken in the upper ranks.

Sword feels like a noob friendly weapon and thus i played a lot of sword when i started since it feels, like you mentioned, pretty save and strong and this noob friendly weapon becomes a powerhouse in the right hands and in the upper ranks.

But tbh ive got the feeling that this is the case for every weapon. I think sword is just one of the weapons that you can learn faster then others and becomes fast a reliable weapon.

In the other hand because of the high usage rate of sword i was able to learn how to play against it rly quickly, but that just means that i learned the range of sword, its combos and how to avoid it sometimes.

The downside of the high usage rate, i am extremly bad against blaster and lance players so those became my most hated weapons, wich in your case is the sword.

Well this is just my opinion so far and i dont know how strong sword becomes in plat/dia compared to the other weapons, so my opinion could change very quickly when i reach this point.

One of the problems i have with the sword is how much it's used. It's just plain stupid. Like 75% of people i meet play a character with sword.
And compared to other weapons, it has no downsides at all. Katats are just as hard to punish, but they have very little combo potential and range. Axe is slow af and has no combo potential and so on. It's just that the sword is so fast and has so good combo potential that makes me dislike the sword as much as much as i do.

lol katars are the weapons with ALL of the combo potential and axe has a good amount of combos, i mean theres a axe combo with 1 dodge froame that is 0 to orange sooooooo idk if your correct, i understand u may be a bit newer but the weapons are very even

[Malryck]

I have more problems with katar than sword, because I have very poor reflexes, but I'm pretty convinced sword is indeed more of a problem than katar, because of how instead of being a jack of all trade but master of none, it is simply a master of all.

Sair outranges most air moves in the game, even from guns, the GP clashes with gun Nair, has roughly the same strenght as katar Sair but with more active frame AND range AND can be combo'ed into really easily.

Sword is a bow with killing power, an axe with speed, a katar with range, a gun that hit stacked and so on.
I litteraly never saw anyone find a weakness to sword, at best, they find one weapon better at a particular thing (ex : hammer has more Force). But where other weapons have weaknesses (dodge windows on gauntlet, blind spot on lance), sword just "isn't the best in that peculiar spot, therefore is balanced". Yet, sword is at least 2nd best at everything.

[Cubey3]

Originally posted by =Mr. Meatballs~:

Originally posted by Stulte:

One of the problems i have with the sword is how much it's used. It's just plain stupid. Like 75% of people i meet play a character with sword.
And compared to other weapons, it has no downsides at all. Katats are just as hard to punish, but they have very little combo potential and range. Axe is slow af and has no combo potential and so on. It's just that the sword is so fast and has so good combo potential that makes me dislike the sword as much as much as i do.

lol katars are the weapons with ALL of the combo potential and axe has a good amount of combos, i mean theres a axe combo with 1 dodge froame that is 0 to orange sooooooo idk if your correct, i understand u may be a bit newer but the weapons are very even

We have like one combo which is dlight to nair at low percents, however, we have loads of strings, reads and mixups. there is a difference between strings and comboes

[Mr.Meatballs]

Originally posted by Starscream:

I have more problems with katar than sword, because I have very poor reflexes, but I'm pretty convinced sword is indeed more of a problem than katar, because of how instead of being a jack of all trade but master of none, it is simply a master of all.

Sair outranges most air moves in the game, even from guns, the GP clashes with gun Nair, has roughly the same strenght as katar Sair but with more active frame AND range AND can be combo'ed into really easily.

Sword is a bow with killing power, an axe with speed, a katar with range, a gun that hit stacked and so on.
I litteraly never saw anyone find a weakness to sword, at best, they find one weapon better at a particular thing (ex : hammer has more Force). But where other weapons have weaknesses (dodge windows on gauntlet, blind spot on lance), sword just "isn't the best in that peculiar spot, therefore is balanced". Yet, sword is at least 2nd best at everything.

ehhhh i disagree i mean sword out ranges some stuff but not as much as u think and u have to think about dodges also, as someone who uses every single legend and can destroy people just the same with each one i can safely say that sword has its weaknesses

[Mr.Meatballs]

Originally posted by Orb | Cubey3:

Originally posted by =Mr. Meatballs~:

lol katars are the weapons with ALL of the combo potential and axe has a good amount of combos, i mean theres a axe combo with 1 dodge froame that is 0 to orange sooooooo idk if your correct, i understand u may be a bit newer but the weapons are very even

We have like one combo which is dlight to nair at low percents, however, we have loads of strings, reads and mixups. there is a difference between strings and comboes

i understand my friend i mean i hope i would i have like 1400 hours thats why i put that there was a dodge frame in it and there is also dair into dlight and a few more

[Cubey3]

Originally posted by =Mr. Meatballs~:

Originally posted by Orb | Cubey3:

We have like one combo which is dlight to nair at low percents, however, we have loads of strings, reads and mixups. there is a difference between strings and comboes

i understand my friend i mean i hope i would i have like 1400 hours thats why i put that there was a dodge frame in it and there is also dair into dlight and a few more

ummm, what? english please

[Cubey3]

Originally posted by =Mr. Meatballs~:

Originally posted by Starscream:

I have more problems with katar than sword, because I have very poor reflexes, but I'm pretty convinced sword is indeed more of a problem than katar, because of how instead of being a jack of all trade but master of none, it is simply a master of all.

Sair outranges most air moves in the game, even from guns, the GP clashes with gun Nair, has roughly the same strenght as katar Sair but with more active frame AND range AND can be combo'ed into really easily.

Sword is a bow with killing power, an axe with speed, a katar with range, a gun that hit stacked and so on.
I litteraly never saw anyone find a weakness to sword, at best, they find one weapon better at a particular thing (ex : hammer has more Force). But where other weapons have weaknesses (dodge windows on gauntlet, blind spot on lance), sword just "isn't the best in that peculiar spot, therefore is balanced". Yet, sword is at least 2nd best at everything.

ehhhh i disagree i mean sword out ranges some stuff but not as much as u think and u have to think about dodges also, as someone who uses every single legend and can destroy people just the same with each one i can safely say that sword has its weaknesses

pretty much outranges everything but bow, spear and lance (and a few of axes moves). anything else cannot contest the swords side air. also dlight to sair is a true combo on sword so its even easier to kill with side air.

[Mr.Meatballs]

Originally posted by Orb | Cubey3:

Originally posted by =Mr. Meatballs~:

ehhhh i disagree i mean sword out ranges some stuff but not as much as u think and u have to think about dodges also, as someone who uses every single legend and can destroy people just the same with each one i can safely say that sword has its weaknesses

pretty much outranges everything but bow, spear and lance (and a few of axes moves). anything else cannot contest the swords side air. also dlight to sair is a true combo on sword so its even easier to kill with side air.

your telling me stuff i already know, but why is it that if sword is op and i fight people who should be as good as me and they use sword and i dont they lose? adapt to it its not that op of a wep

[Cubey3]

Originally posted by =Mr. Meatballs~:

Originally posted by Orb | Cubey3:

pretty much outranges everything but bow, spear and lance (and a few of axes moves). anything else cannot contest the swords side air. also dlight to sair is a true combo on sword so its even easier to kill with side air.

your telling me stuff i already know, but why is it that if sword is op and i fight people who should be as good as me and they use sword and i dont they lose? adapt to it its not that op of a wep

Its not super overpowered, i never said that but it is the best weapon in the game purely because of all its tools