What's a hacker capable of?

[Starving_Princess]

I've just been called a hacker by a guy that obviously doesn't know how the game works, and as such nothing will happen to his report, but I am curious of how one uses hacks in Brawlhalla. I have never seen a hacker before (which is really cool) but as a result I am not sure at all of what a hacker can even do in a game like this. Do they even exist? Has anyone even found a REAL hacker? Not a 'possibly subtle cheater,' just an end-all, be-all, infinite dodger or something like that.

[76561198342288793]

The game runs in Adobe AIR, which is similar to Flash but usually built for games or apps rather than web browsers. As a result, hacks are hard to come by in this game, aside from changing textures.

[Plastic Flamingo]

Hacking really doesn't exist in this game. He was just salty and looking for an excuse as to why he lost.

[Starving_Princess]

Originally posted by Atoma | Paula Deen ⚛:

A. Hacking really doesn't exist in this game.
B. He was just salty and looking for an excuse as to why he lost.

A. Yeah, that's what I thought if I haven't seen one in about a year of playing.
B. Now I was aware of this part.
@aidanbrown le thanx for le explanation

[BlackWaterGaming]

like first comment said adobe air makes it hard, also most everything is server side, one reason why lag looks so different in this game(laggers wont skip like say csgo and such) they`ll just look like they have no control over their character where as they will see tradional lag on their end, but the point im making is since everything goes thro the server, hacks cant just change clients and work, they`ll need to actually be able to hack the server, or the client be able to fool the server which are both very hard to do.

[Tinfoil hat theorist :^)]

We don't know yet, as hacks is something that isn't a thing, yet (and hopefully ever).

[RocketMan]

There are always client sided "hacks" macros, bots and the like.
As well as more mod-esque types. (skins, gui, etc.)
That said, it will be much more difficult to make a decent bot for this game (than say csgo, or RS) simply because of the engine being used, and how the game mechanics work.

[Dark_Xiphles]

Well, you guys May be suprised, even tho making hacks is difficult for it, there are quite a lot of thing that are capable of being done.

1. The first one may week logical, but in single player everything is possible, but really everything. Changing force, dmg and dex are just basics.
I've never tried to edit these in MP, but i doubt i can change a lot. So gamebreaking hacks like one hit kil don't exist. (As far as i know of)

2. Macros were mentioned before, and yea, you don't need to be a Pro to program dlight jump gc dlight jump sair.(sword) this combo is true until dead, for real, if you fail at killing him for so long, you need to git gud.

These macros, or i prefer scripts as the name are Decent, but only using those wont get you info Diamond. The real hacking comes in when you start reading the whole game. From the placement of the players, or the hp they have, or what attack they are using just depending on the first few startupframes.

This is litteraly how the bots work, but those are far from perfect. Too Slow, too predictable and not reliable enough. These flaws could be helped, and if i wanted to put Time into this, i could maybe get something Decent to work. This should be possible, but why?

I'm ♥♥♥♥ at the game, and i like it, i wanna learn to get better, learn to defeat my friends (and foes), and most importantly, get up the ladder.

Greetings
A noob

TLDR
Hackers can do everything, but only a few will break the line...

[Tinfoil hat theorist :^)]

Originally posted by Dark_Xiphles:

Well, you guys May be suprised, even tho making hacks is difficult for it, there are quite a lot of thing that are capable of being done.

1. The first one may week logical, but in single player everything is possible, but really everything. Changing force, dmg and dex are just basics.
I've never tried to edit these in MP, but i doubt i can change a lot. So gamebreaking hacks like one hit kil don't exist. (As far as i know of)

2. Macros were mentioned before, and yea, you don't need to be a Pro to program dlight jump gc dlight jump sair.(sword) this combo is true until dead, for real, if you fail at killing him for so long, you need to git gud.

These macros, or i prefer scripts as the name are Decent, but only using those wont get you info Diamond. The real hacking comes in when you start reading the whole game. From the placement of the players, or the hp they have, or what attack they are using just depending on the first few startupframes.

This is litteraly how the bots work, but those are far from perfect. Too Slow, too predictable and not reliable enough. These flaws could be helped, and if i wanted to put Time into this, i could maybe get something Decent to work. This should be possible, but why?

I'm ♥♥♥♥ at the game, and i like it, i wanna learn to get better, learn to defeat my friends (and foes), and most importantly, get up the ladder.

Greetings
A noob

TLDR
Hackers can do everything, but only a few will break the line...

But then again if someone manage to actually 1 hit kill, they're gonna get banned immediatly for sure

[RocketMan]

Originally posted by Stulte:

Originally posted by Dark_Xiphles:

Well, you guys May be suprised, even tho making hacks is difficult for it, there are quite a lot of thing that are capable of being done.

1. The first one may week logical, but in single player everything is possible, but really everything. Changing force, dmg and dex are just basics.
I've never tried to edit these in MP, but i doubt i can change a lot. So gamebreaking hacks like one hit kil don't exist. (As far as i know of)

2. Macros were mentioned before, and yea, you don't need to be a Pro to program dlight jump gc dlight jump sair.(sword) this combo is true until dead, for real, if you fail at killing him for so long, you need to git gud.

These macros, or i prefer scripts as the name are Decent, but only using those wont get you info Diamond. The real hacking comes in when you start reading the whole game. From the placement of the players, or the hp they have, or what attack they are using just depending on the first few startupframes.

This is litteraly how the bots work, but those are far from perfect. Too Slow, too predictable and not reliable enough. These flaws could be helped, and if i wanted to put Time into this, i could maybe get something Decent to work. This should be possible, but why?

I'm ♥♥♥♥ at the game, and i like it, i wanna learn to get better, learn to defeat my friends (and foes), and most importantly, get up the ladder.

Greetings
A noob

TLDR
Hackers can do everything, but only a few will break the line...

But then again if someone manage to actually 1 hit kill, they're gonna get banned immediatly for sure

nah, that wouldn't happen. if it did work at the very least it'd cause a desync.
The guy above you gave a more accurate picture, only reason we don't have a ♥♥♥♥ ton of diamond bots is no-one has cared enough to do it.

[Dark_Xiphles]

Originally posted by Stulte:

But then again if someone manage to actually 1 hit kill, they're gonna get banned immediatly for sure

True, (i would still love to see i once in a high ranked game, if someone ever got so far into the hacking) and thats why games are server sided, to stop little kids from using cheat engine. Yea sure, this works on single player, but thats it.

Now, another thing i thougt of, are private games,, when you're hosting them still server sided at a brawlhalla server or do you become the server?

[Dark_Xiphles]

Originally posted by Mail Me to the Moon:

The guy above you gave a more accurate picture, only reason we don't have a ♥♥♥♥ ton of diamond bots is no-one has cared enough to do it.

Yea, and the second reason is because the anticheat is little to no work. Brawlhalla has wat to many pointers. Just each Legend has his own hp pointer, and that for everyone player in the lobby. That for a 2vs2 lobby makes (idk how many legends, 25maybe)*4 options just to read the hp's. For every move, ther will be more. And with brawlhalla being a fast paced game, constantly scanning for all of the pointers would cause lag and be to slow.

You'll them need to inject the program, resulting into a free cheat detection

[✪ TobaeLover]

A while ago I fought a 2v2 match ranked with someone called Maurice.
We matched against a gold hattori and a bronze Vraxx. Now we thought this was going to be easy, and, ironicly, the hattori guy was, but then Maurice died.
It was me vs Vraxx.
I started fighting, like a tryhard son of a b*tch, and midways through I realized something..
This guy hacked.
I could clearly see he had some kind of autododge, cause it didn't matter if he was running or fighting..
He dodged almost everything.
I could only hit him if he just used an attack...
Now the funny way I killed him was with a mine where he Dodged while standing on the ground...
Booom..

[TheTrueBrawler]

Originally posted by l-SE-l TobiTheMad:

A while ago I fought a 2v2 match ranked with someone called Maurice.
We matched against a gold hattori and a bronze Vraxx. Now we thought this was going to be easy, and, ironicly, the hattori guy was, but then Maurice died.
It was me vs Vraxx.
I started fighting, like a tryhard son of a b*tch, and midways through I realized something..
This guy hacked.
I could clearly see he had some kind of autododge, cause it didn't matter if he was running or fighting..
He dodged almost everything.
I could only hit him if he just used an attack...
Now the funny way I killed him was with a mine where he Dodged while standing on the ground...
Booom..

Autododge? They're called reads, and knowing when you are attacking. First off, if it really was hacks, he would have dodged literally everything, and not almost everything. Hacks would find their way around cooldowns on moves. Second off, you wouldn't have killed him if he was hacking. Chances are he would have been able to do another dodge out of that mine. Finally, if you truly think this guy is still hacking after what I just told you, then uploading the replay either as a downloadable file, or as a video on Youtube or any other video sharing website. Evidence would be in there for you to see.

[Tinfoil hat theorist :^)]

Originally posted by TheTrueBrawler:

Originally posted by l-SE-l TobiTheMad:

A while ago I fought a 2v2 match ranked with someone called Maurice.
We matched against a gold hattori and a bronze Vraxx. Now we thought this was going to be easy, and, ironicly, the hattori guy was, but then Maurice died.
It was me vs Vraxx.
I started fighting, like a tryhard son of a b*tch, and midways through I realized something..
This guy hacked.
I could clearly see he had some kind of autododge, cause it didn't matter if he was running or fighting..
He dodged almost everything.
I could only hit him if he just used an attack...
Now the funny way I killed him was with a mine where he Dodged while standing on the ground...
Booom..

Autododge? They're called reads, and knowing when you are attacking. First off, if it really was hacks, he would have dodged literally everything, and not almost everything. Hacks would find their way around cooldowns on moves. Second off, you wouldn't have killed him if he was hacking. Chances are he would have been able to do another dodge out of that mine. Finally, if you truly think this guy is still hacking after what I just told you, then uploading the replay either as a downloadable file, or as a video on Youtube or any other video sharing website. Evidence would be in there for you to see.

Just to point out, he can be... quite salty at times

[✪ TobaeLover]

Originally posted by TheTrueBrawler:

Originally posted by l-SE-l TobiTheMad:

A while ago I fought a 2v2 match ranked with someone called Maurice.
We matched against a gold hattori and a bronze Vraxx. Now we thought this was going to be easy, and, ironicly, the hattori guy was, but then Maurice died.
It was me vs Vraxx.
I started fighting, like a tryhard son of a b*tch, and midways through I realized something..
This guy hacked.
I could clearly see he had some kind of autododge, cause it didn't matter if he was running or fighting..
He dodged almost everything.
I could only hit him if he just used an attack...
Now the funny way I killed him was with a mine where he Dodged while standing on the ground...
Booom..

Autododge? They're called reads, and knowing when you are attacking. First off, if it really was hacks, he would have dodged literally everything, and not almost everything. Hacks would find their way around cooldowns on moves. Second off, you wouldn't have killed him if he was hacking. Chances are he would have been able to do another dodge out of that mine. Finally, if you truly think this guy is still hacking after what I just told you, then uploading the replay either as a downloadable file, or as a video on Youtube or any other video sharing website. Evidence would be in there for you to see.

A bronze that reads?
This was before Skyforge and season ending, and no it was not reading..
If it was reading I would still be able to hit him a little, AS I AM NOT A TOTAL F*CKING NOOB, but I only had the chance when he tried landing a hit against me
It was not timed dodging or anything, he dodged EVERYTHING I did, no false dodging or else..
NO ONE can be that perfect.