This or starcraft 2?

[Rupok]

I am getting an urge to play rts games again unfortunately I am not very good at rts games so apm is probably super low as well.

Should I get this game or starcraft 2 for my rts fix? I heard this game has balancing issues with factions, beta's being very bad or something.

[Nihiliste]

Messaggio originale di Willem:

SC2 is not a RTS it's a button smasher.
I like GG way and i mean wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more then SC2.
Like i dont even want to play SC for FREE !

Slow thinker obviously should play TBS, not RTS.
I didn't say dumb, I said slow thinker with 0-50 apm for example.
Starcraft 1&2 are the hardest games in the RTS genre but if you like slower paced games both will be disgusting, I agree.

[kuaikukia]

Messaggio originale di コントロールを失う:

I would say this game then. SC2 is nothing more than a apm contest.

Agree. APM is very troublesome for casual player like myself. SC2 is focusing APM more than strategy. While Grey goo is focusing more strategy than apm. Which I like it very much. I believe Grey goo also could become popular later in time.

[KelBalST]

Anybody who has played SC2 for more than 50 online matches knows that there is more to SC2 than button smashing. APM means nothing if you are simply horrible, I have beaten players with higher APM easily (I was Gold last time I played "seriously"). SC2 has a steep (perhaps frustrating) learning curve, but it is perfectly playable for ordinary people (like me). It also has more content.
Grey Goo seems to be a nice entry level RTS, so you might enjoy it more at the beginning. Still, I think you should check out SC2.

[Crusader_bin]

You can get Starcraft 2 from blizzard for free - that includes the awesome Arcade mode (custom multiplayer maps that change the game entirely into mini-games made by users) and multiplayer. With an invite from someone, they can upgrade your free account to full version as long as you stay in party. If you like it from there, than you will love the campaign either. This game (Gray Goo) is... Not so good IMO.

edit: Starcraft is more technical, it kinda feels like "paper - rock -scissors" - in a good way. Gray Goo is about unit spam, as far as I could see from my short encounter at a friend's house.

edit2: I completely disagree with a claim that Starcraft is all about APM and gray goo about strategy :) Starcraft is very easy to learn, but hard to master - when it comes to balancing micro-macro gameplay. APM is a term that makes no difference on lower tier game matches and completely does not exist when playing single player.
Unless you want to beat Koreans in multiplayer, it is just pure fun with even 6 actions per minute :P

[Mastasun]

maybe..

[Haych]

SC2 is the big game in the market right now, if you're an RTS fan or want to be one you need to purchase it. Its the only game atm thats really propping RTS up.

Grey Goo imo seems like a complimentary game that fills the void in the market for people who can't handle the APM requirements for SC2.

[Nihiliste]

Messaggio originale di Zomnivore:

SC2 is the big game in the market right now, if you're an RTS fan or want to be one you need to purchase it. Its the only game atm thats really propping RTS up.

Grey Goo imo seems like a complimentary game that fills the void in the market for people who can't handle the APM requirements for SC2.

/thread, amen to that, close the thread now.

[?????]

Grey Goo is more of a strategy game, meanwhile SC2 remains an APM racing game which is really unfortunate.

[Jim_hatama]

starcraft feels more like work than a game

[Crusader_bin]

Lies, APM is important in all multiplayer games (to a degree, you just have to be faster than enemies when fighting humans. In every game that is real-time).
Hell, in bronze legue 35% of people have APM of 1 to 29 and even in GOLD 44% have APM from 1 - 59, which is really not that fast.

edit: Good luck playing the Goo faction with low APM.

[RighteousNixon]

Messaggio originale di Ryn'age The Runetracer:

To answer your question.
1. Grey Goo is overpriced beyond belief. :spazhorror:
2. Starcraft 2 not only gets you the more popular and fair choice, but Starcraft 2's content and replayability is unlimited due to custom games/arcade, for which Grey Goo simply does not have.


And here they are trying to sell their game for 50$ preventing many of my friends, and myself from buying the game in the first place, after watching my friends' stream and hearing their thoughts on the matter the best thing to do is to wait until they lower the price to 35$ or wait for it to go on sale, and by that time the community will be larger with more maps and balanced gameplay.

I want this game /specifically/ to play with friends, and due to the high and unfair price, thats just simply not possible which is why im avoiding the game for now.

Furthermore, they need a StarCraft 2 Arcade type thing where people can make campaigns and custom games. (That Miiiiight make the game worth 40$ at the most)

Oh god, another person ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about price. To describe a $50 price tag, in 2015 no less, as unfair....well, that has to be the single most ridiculous comment I have ever heard on gaming forums. It may be too high for you, but to describe it as unfair is nothing short of comical. Its actually unfair that developers can't charge more than $50 bucks, given that is the same price gamers have been paying for 25+ years. Every other market on the planet see's regular price increases due to inflation yet game developers are stuck charging the same price they were 25 years ago. Again, thats the only thing unfair about this price tag. I hate to say it , but PC gamers are just total cheapskates.

[Ken]

Starcraft 2 and HotS should come to $40 and is by far a better deal imo. If you don't want to play MP SC2 and HotS will give you near 45 campaign missions, with a fair amount of replayability. Add onto that all the community workshop content and you could sink thousands of hours into it. This game is very fun as well though, it's a whole new take on RTS from SC2. For new people I'd recommend SC2, for people who truly love RTS's I'd say Grey Goo.

[SKSword]

I just wanted to say that this was the most civilized debate on steam....

[Reva]

People who saying SC2 is just a APM contest have absolutliy now clue. I play the Game since 6 Years and i must say that you don't need much reflexes to getting into Masters. APM is more important for real Progamers. If you just play the game for fun it dosn't matter. Also i could say that SC2 is way more complex in all ways that grey goo never will be. Strategywise SC2 have more options than just spaming T1 and T2 units in Grey Goo. Grey goo just ends up in a real clusterfest. Grey Goo also have no herass options what makes the game more boring to watch. In SC2 everthing could be happen right now.

[Reva]

You also could play Company of Heroes 2 or AoE2 HD if you want some slower and good RTS games. Well thats just my opinion but in times who RTS games still sucks you cant come with an silly and simplyfide game like Grey Goo. And im 100% sure the playedbase won't grow up with a pricedrop. Its not a bad game its just boring for boring people who can't handle the stressful gameplay of an real RTS Game i would say. ^^
But yeah i still keep an eye on the progress of grey goo.