Early Crafting Progression

[Tophiate]

OK. I took a year long break (thereabouts) and I have come back to essentially the same gripes I had before. SO I started my own server and that eliminated the drunken griefers and so on.
Still having issues however.
I am wondering if there is some kind of flow chart for what to make first, why and when to make it.
Every time I go to make something, I see I am missing something. Then I go to make that and..yeah..missing something I need for THAT. While this is totally part of the fun in a game like this, it can be taken too far. In some of the user tutorials they talk about linen rope being an 'end game' item. I beg to differ. I need that ♥♥♥♥ NOW. I also need Naptha for torches NOW. But to make Naptha...looks like I need to make 600 other things.
This is NOT a game of instant gratification. I think we have firmyl established this.
Lets try and be reasonable though. I don't have the free time to play 20 hours a day like some peoiple, so crafting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ NAILS shouldn't take 3 days.
Love the game. Love the devs. Let's get it together though shall we? Your MMO is doomed to fail if you keep pissing off all your base players and that's ALOT of what I am seeing.
Trying to help you, here.

[Darc]

Naphtha is made with just herbs

[Baffle]

if its taking you 3 days to make nails your doing it wrong =0.

But no there is no flow chat becasue items dont work that way for most crafting you unlock things at 30 60 90 and 100 skill.

This is not a game in which you can progress fast with out others to play with. so even if you dont have 20 hours to play you can still progress in your skill and in the game with an hr or 2.

This is a game of finding out alot for yourself or by having others share info.

Example to make nails you need material prep a furncace or 2 a kilin for charcoal and construction skill and iron ore. There are serveral spots on the map with iron on the surface. but you make an anvil for the forge with 8 ingots that you make in a furnace you then take lumps now to make nails you ll also need a bs hammer and crucible and tongs.

this is a good reason why finding a group wold help becasue its much more detailed then that.

[Tophiate]

@ 26th: I thought Naptha req'd an alchemy station, my bad.

@Baff: I agree on the need for a group, Baff...just haven't been able to get my guildies to come check the game out and the people I have met on public servers so far have just not been good macthes..which is fine...

Thanks for the help, guys! It is one of those games which I will just have to be patient. Seems simple as that.

[El Buque]

I also just got a renewed interest in Lif after more than a year of absence. I used to play on the official public servers before they got taken down. The grind was pretty real back then, i'm a bit discouraged that it seems the updates have made it worse. I think what helped me the most was that I always had my laptop next to me with the wiki open so I could reference it and watch letsplays ect on youtube while I grinded. So far I haven't found a server I can play on, but I agree that being in any sort of group really helps.

[Sharana]

The grind for solo players or small group is horrific. Only jobless people that got hooked up can enjoy it (x1 settings when the server owner didn't speed up everything). But when you play with bigger group there are many more players for the same tasks, so the time per player rati needed to do specific job is of course very disproportionate.

[Tophiate]

well..if anyone's interested, I have the Drowned Mountains up and rtunning....set to just about every convenient setting I could allow for or had some control over...anyone is welcome :) Obviously there's a no douchbag policy but..that is SOP for me...

[Tophiate]

thanks for teh help btw guys. I do like this game ALOT but ehres no way I can keep playing it solo. going to learn what I can..if this sever I started can get a few more people so be it...otherwise I have to try my luck in another one..but luck isnt what Ive had so far. Only met ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ drunks and..other miscreants who want to show me how awssome and powerful they are virtually.