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[Delfin The Dragonborn]

So many ♥♥♥♥ to talk about right now, I will keep adding lines with "-". So many questions come to my mind and ♥♥♥♥ that I just saw in the ending of this game. Hope some of you can share thoughts with me:

- Why the hell do we help Napoleon when he is a bastard that murdered both of my country nationalities in the seek for power? Years after the end, Arno is totally cooperating with him!! Why! He should be a templar that we have to murder in a future AC game, not someone cool that we help!

- Arno gets manipulated so much by Elyse that he ends not being an assassin anymore kicked by the order, something that never happened before. That girl is crazy and she even leaves Arno in the last moment of her life in her seek for revenge! She didnt love you! She was just using you, she even said in the card she leaves to you that she is proud of having taken that final decision above everything else, doing anything necessary to revenge his father. She would have even killed you herself if that could get the Germain guy dieing in a trap or something. And she dies after all the problem she gives, so Arno is not just ♥♥♥♥*d hard, away from the assassins too, that also he loses his only reason to be alive? And then he starts cooperating with Napoleon the guy that murdered my ancestors cause he has too much free time after losing Elyse and losing the Assassins???

- We find what seems to be the most important and powerful piece of the tech from the Ancestors that existed before us, and nobody in the nowadays Assassins gives a crap? They just care about the templars not being able to look for a new Sage DNA? Thats all? And the worst part, the Eden fragment, the sword, ends in the hands of someone that is no longer an assassin and that wears it publicly around Paris and with Napoleon and nobody cares or gives a crap that the Assassins should recover that and THAT is actually the biggest achievement from searching through the DNA secuence of memory of Arno Dorien, that he found a piece of the Eden fragments???????? And, in what we see its like: "okay an Eden Sword, so what?" This is pissing me off very hard

- Arno keeps using Assassins basement, the order kicks you. You dont return, he gives his own interpretation to the Creed, what the ♥♥♥♥? Was this game event thought twice by the people in charge of the story?

- And now the biggest part of this ♥♥♥♥: THIS GAME HAS NO RELATIONSHIP AT ALL ANYMORE AND IT DOESNT CONTINUE ANY STORY WITH AC3 or AC4 (black flag). Its ridiculous! The story they were building they just stopped making it! Its like this saga was Lord of the rings 1, Lord of the Rings 2, etc, and now it becomes James Bond 1 (007), James Bond 2, James Bond 3, where nothing has relationship with the previous things and its just a "new tale".


What the hell! Im so disappointed right now with you Ubisoft, I have bought and beat 100% all the Assassins Creed games the special editions, even the PsPGo one! What the hell! So many fails in this game! Its even worse than what happened with Desmond at Assassins Creed 3 !

[Tom Brady Makes Out With His Son]

Napoleon was a great man and an amazing general. He waged war, so what? Everyone in Europe wanted to screw France and Napoleon defended her from foreign powers, more than what King Louis would have done.

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

Ursprungligen skrivet av notdanielsong:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Delfin The Dragonborn:

Lol, derp guy, go study some history.

"Napoleon was a great guy". LOL. You really need to study european history

You're just an annoying brat who refuses to look at mulitple sources which proves you wrong at every turn. You should probably get some therapy.

Lol! You are a korean guy trying to teach about history someone from the middle of Europe which his brother is an archeologist! Lol...

NAPOLEON WAS A BAST*RD THAT ATTEMPTED TO DELETE FROM THE MAP A WHOLE CIVILIZATION.

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Atomic Spy Crab:

Napoleon was a great man and an amazing general. He waged war, so what? Everyone in Europe wanted to screw France and Napoleon defended her from foreign powers, more than what King Louis would have done.

Shut up about things you dont know american boy, and go study your european history books, if you have one...

[skydread]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av notdanielsong:

You're just an annoying brat who refuses to look at mulitple sources which proves you wrong at every turn. You should probably get some therapy.

Lol! You are a korean guy trying to teach about history someone from the middle of Europe which his brother is an archeologist! Lol...

NAPOLEON WAS A BASTARD THAT ATTEMPTED TO DELETE FROM THE MAP A WHOLE CIVILIZATION.

My race has nothing to do with knowledge. So you're racist on top of ignorant. I really pity you. Because your brother is an archeologist doesn't mean you know history yourself.

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

Ursprungligen skrivet av notdanielsong:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Delfin The Dragonborn:

Lol! You are a korean guy trying to teach about history someone from the middle of Europe which his brother is an archeologist! Lol...

NAPOLEON WAS A BAST*RD THAT ATTEMPTED TO DELETE FROM THE MAP A WHOLE CIVILIZATION.

My race has nothing to do with knowledge. So you're racist on top of ignorant. I really pity you. Because your brother is an archeologist doesn't mean you know history yourself.

A korean guy living at USA trying to teach center-european history to a center-european universitary guy whose brother is an archeologist, HAHAHAHHAHA. Ive studied the history of Europe pretty well boy, opposite to you. I bet you have never touched a book of european history anyway...

[spderweb]

it's mentioned in the customize screen, that the sword no longer holds any power. It was depowered when it overloaded killing Elise.

Regarding Napolean being an assassin, this entire game was about how the lines aren't drawn clearly. Just because you think all templars are evil and all assassins are good doesn't mean it's true. People will use the group they feel benefits them at the time.
Likely we'll be seeing more of this double crossing within the ranks in future games.

[Tom Brady Makes Out With His Son]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Atomic Spy Crab:

Napoleon was a great man and an amazing general. He waged war, so what? Everyone in Europe wanted to screw France and Napoleon defended her from foreign powers, more than what King Louis would have done.

Shut up about things you dont know american boy, and go study your european history books, if you have one... :cfacepalm:

Boy I know more about Europe than you can even hope to know, my being American has nothing to do with this. The Spaniards weren't perfect either, their slaughter of the Aztecs, forcing the natives to abandon their customs for christianity, oppressing Central America, all things the Spanish did.

I think you should be the one shutting up about things you don't know

[Tom Brady Makes Out With His Son]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Delfin The Dragonborn:

So many ♥♥♥♥ to talk about right now, I will keep adding lines with "-". So many questions come to my mind and ♥♥♥♥ that I just saw in the ending of this game. Hope some of you can share thoughts with me:

- Why the hell do we help Napoleon when he is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that murdered both of my country nationalities in the seek for power? Years after the end, Arno is totally cooperating with him!! Why! He should be a templar that we have to murder in a future AC game, not someone cool that we help! :grr:

The Spaniards murdered all the Aztecs and several other Central American populations for power

[Tom Brady Makes Out With His Son]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av notdanielsong:

My race has nothing to do with knowledge. So you're racist on top of ignorant. I really pity you. Because your brother is an archeologist doesn't mean you know history yourself.

A korean guy living at USA trying to teach center-european history to a center-european universitary guy whose brother is an archeologist, HAHAHAHHAHA. I've studied the history of Europe pretty well boy, opposite to you. I bet you have never touched a book of european history anyway... :spazwinky:

:ss13ok:

Just because your brother is an Archeologist doesn't mean he's a good one or knows anything about history, and just because you live in Central Europe doesn't mean you would know any better. And I doubt you live in Central Europe if you can't even say it right, and apparently don't know much about the Rise and Reign of Napoleon Bonaparte, the great man that once ruled all of it.

[Peerington]

I'll try to anwser this with the best of my knowledge:

- Arno is cooperating with Napoleon, nothing more. Remember this is way before Napoleon's reign of power (if you look at the first meeting with Napoleon, he was seeking something in the king's office. While Arno found the assassin evidence, he grabbed a chest and opened it and something bright was glowing and said "Incredible"...then quickly packs it in his coat saying it is just "a cornucopia". That is when he held the apple of eden, a message that was told in AC2 Glyphs).

- Elise is not manipulating Arno in any way, she is simply after revenge. Arno gets kicked out of the order because he is taking matters in his own hands without the consent of the Assassin Council (when he assassinated a Templar without their knowledge, they weren't happy about it). He does this because he believes the Assassins are in danger and does all this for redemption. And with the Death of Mirabeu and Pierre Bellic, they really are skeptical about Arno's Actions.

- It is pretty odd indeed to be carrying a powerful artifact around. Anyways, after Elise's death, Arno was brought back into the Order (this wasn't shown in-game, only on the novel). If I remember correctly:

"He continued to visit Élise's grave, and proclaimed himself redeemed of his previous mistakes. There, he was met by the outcast Assassin Bernard Ruddock, an acquaintance of Élise. Ruddock gave Arno a letter that Élise had written in the event of her death, explaining a number of her actions and directing him to find her chest of keepsakes. She only asked that Arno allow Ruddock to keep a pack of letters that she had been given by Jennifer Scott (Edward Kenway's Daughter, Haytham's Sister) on her trip to London, which would allow Ruddock to gain favour with the Assassin Council and rejoin the Creed.

Arno agreed to honor her wishes, took Ruddock's address and told him he would be in touch once he had obtained the letters and Élise's chest, Arno also agreed that he would endorse any efforts he made to win favor with the Assassins. Arno traveled to the Maison Royale where he met Élise's teacher, Mr. Weatherall and was given the chest as promised, but the visit soon turned sour.

Ruddock had followed Arno and betrayed him, attempting to kill him on the order of the British Templars. However, Ruddock was killed by Mr. Weatherall before he could shoot Arno. Arno stayed with Élise's friends during the years following her death, having been invited to stay by her former maid out of respect to her mistress. He also rejoined the Brotherhood sometime afterwards, eventually becoming a Master Assassin."

- You're right about that part. Fortunatly this is occuring in the animus/helix, therfore, it really didn't happen in the real timeline.

- In Modern day storyline, you are right. There is little to no relationship with previous game.

[dragen]

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1798 - Napoleon invades Switzerland making a lot of swiss peaceful people die.

1808 - Napoleon invades and almost completely destroys Spain in all the cities simultaneously for lots of months since Spain was damaged in his battle against England.

Im half swiss, half spanish, and my favourite saga is Assassins Creed. Seriously, do I have to see as a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hero this Napoleon ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥???? Instead of killing him or trying to , the assassins creed saga supports him so far ? What the ♥♥♥♥?

The Story is from France, so of course they set Napoleon in a good light. Napoleon rose in military ranks very quickly because of the leader's brother of the revolution fought beside him. He noticed his brother, and he gave Napoleon the rank as a brigadier in an instant. Napoleon took control over an revolution that didn't go as the frenchmen had planned and got France into their greatest era throughout history.

[Bite]

Ursprungligen skrivet av zimbim:

The Story is from France, so of course they set Napoleon in a good light. Napoleon rose in military ranks very quickly because of the leader's brother of the revolution fought beside him. He noticed his brother, and he gave Napoleon the rank as a brigadier in an instant. Napoleon took control over an revolution that didn't go as the frenchmen had planned and got France into their greatest era throughout history.

The DLC gives him a bad light though, Arno subtly remarks how dangerous Napoleon is, and the whole Dead Kings campaign basically consists on a quest to prevent Napoleon from acquiring First Cvi technology.

[bgray9054]

They so badly need to establish a present-day story again. While I still love the AC series (AC4 was a blast recently), the series seems to have zero direction as there is no present day story to anchor things and give direction so that the player feels there is an objective.

[bujablaster]

To be honest - for me Unity has worst main storytelling and characters i've ever seen in AC series :(. Basic story could be nice on paper, but way how it is told and presented to player was just WTF MEH for me.

[Soma Cruz]

The sword is broken so it totally useless.