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[Delfin The Dragonborn]

So many ♥♥♥♥ to talk about right now, I will keep adding lines with "-". So many questions come to my mind and ♥♥♥♥ that I just saw in the ending of this game. Hope some of you can share thoughts with me:

- Why the hell do we help Napoleon when he is a bastard that murdered both of my country nationalities in the seek for power? Years after the end, Arno is totally cooperating with him!! Why! He should be a templar that we have to murder in a future AC game, not someone cool that we help!

- Arno gets manipulated so much by Elyse that he ends not being an assassin anymore kicked by the order, something that never happened before. That girl is crazy and she even leaves Arno in the last moment of her life in her seek for revenge! She didnt love you! She was just using you, she even said in the card she leaves to you that she is proud of having taken that final decision above everything else, doing anything necessary to revenge his father. She would have even killed you herself if that could get the Germain guy dieing in a trap or something. And she dies after all the problem she gives, so Arno is not just ♥♥♥♥*d hard, away from the assassins too, that also he loses his only reason to be alive? And then he starts cooperating with Napoleon the guy that murdered my ancestors cause he has too much free time after losing Elyse and losing the Assassins???

- We find what seems to be the most important and powerful piece of the tech from the Ancestors that existed before us, and nobody in the nowadays Assassins gives a crap? They just care about the templars not being able to look for a new Sage DNA? Thats all? And the worst part, the Eden fragment, the sword, ends in the hands of someone that is no longer an assassin and that wears it publicly around Paris and with Napoleon and nobody cares or gives a crap that the Assassins should recover that and THAT is actually the biggest achievement from searching through the DNA secuence of memory of Arno Dorien, that he found a piece of the Eden fragments???????? And, in what we see its like: "okay an Eden Sword, so what?" This is pissing me off very hard

- Arno keeps using Assassins basement, the order kicks you. You dont return, he gives his own interpretation to the Creed, what the ♥♥♥♥? Was this game event thought twice by the people in charge of the story?

- And now the biggest part of this ♥♥♥♥: THIS GAME HAS NO RELATIONSHIP AT ALL ANYMORE AND IT DOESNT CONTINUE ANY STORY WITH AC3 or AC4 (black flag). Its ridiculous! The story they were building they just stopped making it! Its like this saga was Lord of the rings 1, Lord of the Rings 2, etc, and now it becomes James Bond 1 (007), James Bond 2, James Bond 3, where nothing has relationship with the previous things and its just a "new tale".


What the hell! Im so disappointed right now with you Ubisoft, I have bought and beat 100% all the Assassins Creed games the special editions, even the PsPGo one! What the hell! So many fails in this game! Its even worse than what happened with Desmond at Assassins Creed 3 !

[Dread-Reaper]

I don't even know why they bothered with the animus in this game, besides co-op it is practically ignored. Elise was killed off because the Ubisoft likes cliche endings. Also, when did Arno rejoin the brotherhood, last I checked he was banished, so why is his outfit referred to as "Arno's Master Assassin" outfit?

Regarding the sword, didn't they hide a book with it as well, and didn't that book contain information on Those Who Came Before? Does no one not care about that stuff anymore?
This story in this game is so half-assed and filled with plot-holes, I have to wonder how much of the supposedly '4-year' development time actually went into the story.

[Alejandro]

The ending is the worst ever, it ruined the game for me and I stopped playing.

Arno's character development is completely illogical after Elise dies, he barely had motivation for anything, the whole main storyline is cause he loves Elise and wants to be with her but in the end he changes out of nowhere and acts like some atheist preacher.

Elise should have lived first of all but if she had died then Arno would never ever find motivation to go on after he lost her for the third time ( and forever ) . With all the questions not answered he stays like a lone assassin even though the creed casted him out.

Realistic ending would be Elise and Arno both alive and together thus the title UNITY , like this there is nothing about Unity at all as Arno lost what the only person he wanted to be with and Elise never lived to witness the revenge she wanted.

ONE GOOD ENDING WOULD BE IF :

Arno dies but Elise lives and has a child with him, thus making UNITY making at least some sense.

OR :

Elise becomes an assassin too , thus Unity makes sense.

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

Originally posted by |NvUs| Dread-Reaper:

I don't even know why they bothered with the animus in this game, besides co-op it is practically ignored. Elise was killed off because the Ubisoft likes cliche endings. Also, when did Arno rejoin the brotherhood, last I checked he was banished, so why is his outfit referred to as "Arno's Master Assassin" outfit?

Regarding the sword, didn't they hide a book with it as well, and didn't that book contain information on Those Who Came Before? Does no one not care about that stuff anymore?
This story in this game is so half-assed and filled with plot-holes, I have to wonder how much of the supposedly '4-year' development time actually went into the story.

It would be cool if now you answer to what I wrote, at least the ones you can say something about, writing -1- blablabla, -2- blablabla etc

And where is this book? I dont remember it? Did they even hide the sword???? They didnt! Arno wears it, why do you say that??

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

Originally posted by Ǥuardiaƞ:

The ending is the worst ever, it ruined the game for me and I stopped playing.

Arno's character development is completely illogical after Elise dies, he barely had motivation for anything, the whole main storyline is cause he loves Elise and wants to be with her but in the end he changes out of nowhere and acts like some atheist preacher.

Elise should have lived first of all but if she had died then Arno would never ever find motivation to go on after he lost her for the third time ( and forever ) . With all the questions not answered he stays like a lone assassin even though the creed casted him out.

Realistic ending would be Elise and Arno both alive and together thus the title UNITY , like this there is nothing about Unity at all as Arno lost what the only person he wanted to be with and Elise never lived to witness the revenge she wanted.

ONE GOOD ENDING WOULD BE IF :

Arno dies but Elise lives and has a child with him, thus making UNITY making at least some sense.

OR :

Elise becomes an assassin too , thus Unity makes sense.

Please, dont use this to write opinions about the ending but opinions about what I wrote that are the actual facts of the real events, not "what we would want the game to be". Thanks

[Alejandro]

Originally posted by Delfin The Dragonborn:

Originally posted by Ǥuardiaƞ:

The ending is the worst ever, it ruined the game for me and I stopped playing.

Arno's character development is completely illogical after Elise dies, he barely had motivation for anything, the whole main storyline is cause he loves Elise and wants to be with her but in the end he changes out of nowhere and acts like some atheist preacher.

Elise should have lived first of all but if she had died then Arno would never ever find motivation to go on after he lost her for the third time ( and forever ) . With all the questions not answered he stays like a lone assassin even though the creed casted him out.

Realistic ending would be Elise and Arno both alive and together thus the title UNITY , like this there is nothing about Unity at all as Arno lost what the only person he wanted to be with and Elise never lived to witness the revenge she wanted.

ONE GOOD ENDING WOULD BE IF :

Arno dies but Elise lives and has a child with him, thus making UNITY making at least some sense.

OR :

Elise becomes an assassin too , thus Unity makes sense.

Please, dont use this to write opinions about the ending but opinions about what I wrote that are the actual facts of the real events, not "what we would want the game to be". Thanks

The whole point of the main storyline is that Arno is in love with Elise and that he wants to fix things so that he can be with her.

Thats why he joins the assassins in the first place.

Later on he chooses to save Elise and not to kill their target and Elise gets angry at him and he for the second time has no meaning in his life.

For the second time he gets on his feet because of Elise.

When Elise dies, he turns out to be a complete different character as if it was 2 different people writing the storyline, which ruins the game.

Again I must say there is nothing about Unity in the main storyline, it's a sad tragedy with an atheist preaching in the end and so many questions unanswered. That is the story how it happened and it makes no sense.

Also you said she didn't love him, they were both in love and in 1 moment you actually think that this is why the game is called UNITY in the first place just so that it turns out like 2 different people wrote the plot cause it suddenly changes cause somebody thought it would be more simple if Elise dies and Arno continues like all he did didn't have any real meaning in his life other than not having faith in God.

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

You see, Arno didnt hide the sword, he wears it years later.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=344463996

I feel ♥♥♥♥♥♥ for the story ♥♥♥♥ and fails and all I wrote in the beggining of this thread, but I also feel pity for Arno.. This isnt right.

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

Guardian, can you please answer to my " - " 1 by 1 instead of creating a new conversation about how it should have been. What I wrote its interesting if you try to think on it a while.

[Alejandro]

Originally posted by Delfin The Dragonborn:

Guardian, can you please answer to my " - " 1 by 1 instead of creating a new conversation about how it should have been. What I wrote its interesting if you try to think on it a while.

Well I think in many points the same as you, my main problem is that the ending is very poor and it changes Arno's character by a huge margin !

- First thing's first we both know that Arno and Bonaparte are friends and they help out each other. In theory because of the Sword of Eden Arno could have helped him to become the ruler of France and later in his conquest of Europe, obviously we don't see anything of that but Napoleon is NOT a templar he is shown as a smart military man with much ambition.
Maybe he fools Arno and gain more power later on ? Who knows thats just one of the reasons why the ending is bad.

- Second thing you wrote is my main point which I already said. They were in love and suddenly someone changed their mind about the story and went full ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Arno's drive and motor for the story itself is Elise. The fact that she had to die in such a way that we have seen millions of times is bad for itself but in every way her death just complicates things for the main story rather than making it easier. Without Elise Arno isn't Arno that's just how they made it, if she manipulaed him well that's a good question but without her he would just be drinking...

Arno keeps the sword, buries Elise next to her father and keeps visiting her grave and he doesn't believe in God and says that he now understands more things and he is a lone assassin.
Nothing of that makes sense. It means that his whole character development was thrown to the garbage. I don't know what you mean by " the guy that murdered my ancestors " .

- As we both know in the end the woman says that they are getting amazing data and that we continue on discovering his memories but NOT one mention about the sword that now belongs to Arno himself. I agree with what you said and it's not logical at all !

- In the end he continues being an assassin but he isn't with the creed anymore. He lives above the brotherhood too. 0 % logic again. Why didn't they show us that he comes back somehow ? Or if not why isn't the brotherhood after him ? Did he kill the brotherhood leaders and became one himself ? It makes no sense.

Thats it, and again if you ask me the main problem is the change of his character and the death of Elise that had no impact on Arno at all although he is very affected by her and the whole story is because of Arno & Elise the Unity between them that failed for no reason as all parties lost.

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

"The guy that murdered my ancestors" means Napoleon. Im half spanish, half swiss. I dont get why the ♥♥♥♥ do we help Napoleon in the story, its stupid. He was a crazy psycopath like Hitler and I have to see the last scene of this game Arno cooperating with him once again after he loses everything, thats a ♥♥♥♥.

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

You are right in many things too Guardian, add me, I really need to smash some faces, lets play some coop in a mission and kill everything we see. Im very angry right now, there is an anger in front of me. Whoever made this game can go to hell, he destroyed the saga Assassins Creed, the little pieces left after AC4 that were being fixed in AC5 a bit, and now the ♥♥♥♥ is back again. Nothing makes sense, nothing has relationship, and they add the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ psycopath assassin Napoleon as if he was someone cool, maybe because in USA they didnt have to suffer him like it happened with Hitler that send them the japanese imperial army. Napoleon almost destroyed Spain and Switzerland, what the ♥♥♥♥.

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

1798 - Napoleon invades Switzerland making a lot of swiss peaceful people die.

1808 - Napoleon invades and almost completely destroys Spain in all the cities simultaneously for lots of months since Spain was damaged in his battle against England.

Im half swiss, half spanish, and my favourite saga is Assassins Creed. Seriously, do I have to see as a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hero this Napoleon ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥???? Instead of killing him or trying to , the assassins creed saga supports him so far ? What the ♥♥♥♥?

[Alejandro]

Sadly not many people realise how poor the story is :(

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

Originally posted by Ǥuardiaƞ:

Sadly not many people realise how poor the story is :(

Everyone is so worried for the bugs that they dont give a crap about the epic fail that Assassins Creed Unity is.

[Horny Shrimp]

Originally posted by Delfin The Dragonborn:

"The guy that murdered my ancestors" means Napoleon. Im half spanish, half swiss. I dont get why the ♥♥♥♥ do we help Napoleon in the story, its stupid. He was a crazy psycopath like Hitler and I have to see the last scene of this game Arno cooperating with him once again after he loses everything, thats a ♥♥♥♥.

Napoleon is no Hitler. I know the British propaganda did a lot to damage his image but you need to learn some history because both were quite different men. For once you're given the opportunity to see why the French see Napoleon the way they do. Stop pushing your politcal agenda... I know it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trend now. Become a game "journalist", you'll have a blast.

Napoleon did what all leaders were doing at that time, you can't look at history through the limited prism of your contemporary culture.

Swiss has been financially covering the Nazis ( and murdering the French for a long time through the Swiss Guards serving the King ) and Spain has annihilated most of the indigenous people from South America ( Napoleonic Wars pale in comparison ). People really have to stop their drama queen acting...


N-B: Vive l'Empereur ;)

[Delfin The Dragonborn]

Originally posted by Bob Loblaw:

Originally posted by Delfin The Dragonborn:

"The guy that murdered my ancestors" means Napoleon. Im half spanish, half swiss. I dont get why the ♥♥♥♥ do we help Napoleon in the story, its stupid. He was a crazy psycopath like Hitler and I have to see the last scene of this game Arno cooperating with him once again after he loses everything, thats a ♥♥♥♥.

Napoleon is no Hitler. I know the British propaganda did a lot to damage his image but you need to learn some history because both were quite different men.

What the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about, my brother is an archeologist. My ancestors died at the hands of Napoleon trying to own the whole Europe in his seek for power.

What you say about Switzerland is stupid, the swiss guards were honorable and thats why France hired them, before Napoleon appeared. Go study history before you come back here. And Spain didnt annihilate South America, they conquered and converted half of it to christianism, they didnt make slaves, opposite to what the habits in England and France were.


Oh, I see, you are a french guy that is proud of having ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ massive murderers as emperor xD lol..