Assassin's Creed WW2?

[rtoday.am]

I'm replaying assassin's creed untity and during one of the missions when you do a memory warp that takes you to Paris during ww2, I thought of something. Wouldn't AC WW2 be perfect? If you look at Natzi ideology, that's like the Templar ideology of complete control taken to extreme form. The Natzi crosses look very similar to templar crosses

Templar Black Cross and Natzi Cross

[Img]https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/assassinscreed/images/4/47/Black_Cross.png/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/360?cb=20210219053808[\img]


[Img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/German_Cross.svg[\img]


Wiki:
"Black Cross, is an enigmatic rank created by the Inner Sanctum to fight corruption within the Templar Order and search for Pieces of Eden, the Council of Elders had influence during the earliest years of the Black Cross.

Secret inquisitors only answering to the Inner Sanctum's orders, the agents were authorized to use any means necessary, even deadly force, to take down corrupted members of the Order within Rites. The Black Cross were tasked with keeping the Grand Masters and their subordinates in line with the Templar Code and ideals.

Deadly enforcers acting as an independent morality police force of one man, very few individuals wore the title of Black Cross across the centuries though the Bolden family line counted many among their number."

That sound like Natzis and the Secret Police.

They could link the "master race" to Isu. And make Hitler a sage. Not to mention that Hitler sent out Natzis across the world to find ancient artifacts and holy relics. These could easily be Isu relics in AC lore.

I just think that the dynamics of WW2 would really fit in well with AC lore.

Sure some people might say that modern times is no time for Assassin's creed ype of stealth play. But let's take a look at the reality. There are many successful modern stealth games. Uncharted has a good stealth system. Splinter Cells has a good stealth system. So it's definitely possible. I imagine the stealth to be alot like Uncharted (which is alot like AC) but with hidden blade and silenced pistols. Sleeping darts, and berserk darts will still be good in this type of game play. Natzi hunters were known to hang Natzis. So they could fit Rope darts in easily too.

Not to mention, It would be a massive improvement on where the franchise is heading now.

[CursedPanther]

Obviously you're far from the first guy in the last 10 years suggesting something similar.

This ain't about not able to get the gameplay into a WW2 era to work but rather the majority of the AC community doesn't want a dedicated WW2 AC game. Having the timeline pushed as far ahead into WW1 in Syndicate, then with the subsequent trilogy travels back millennia in time and still being a massive success basically proves that the audiences want to explore historical periods that are far less touched in modern times.

Having that said, the next AC game codename 'Infinity' is early in development and the devs could be going through all the options again. Who knows? Maybe you'll get your way but I seriously doubt it.

[LenaPrime]

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

Obviously you're far from the first guy in the last 10 years suggesting something similar.

Yeah I was having a conversation about something to this effect here yesterday lol, I would absolutely love an AC game set during WW1 or 2, in WW1 there's already an active Assassin we know about, Lydia Frye, they could bring her back for a full game, or maybe like a decently sized DLC campaign, bigger than the Syndicate section at least.

[rtoday.am]

Originally posted by LenaPrime:

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

Obviously you're far from the first guy in the last 10 years suggesting something similar.

Yeah I was having a conversation about something to this effect here yesterday lol, I would absolutely love an AC game set during WW1 or 2, in WW1 there's already an active Assassin we know about, Lydia Frye, they could bring her back for a full game, or maybe like a decently sized DLC campaign, bigger than the Syndicate section at least.

I'd love for it to take place in WW2 because the dynamics fit more with AC lore and the theme of "war to end all wars" will tie in nicely with the Asaasin Templar wars. Natzi Templars have the edge because they have a bunch of Isu artifacts that they gave to their best officers to lead the war effort. Yet they still look for more relics. There could be one especially powerful one like the "iron thunderbolt" found in Hindu scriptures that natzis are after.

“Gurkha, flying a swift and powerful vimana hurled a single projectile charged with the power of the Universe. An incandescent column ofsmoke and
flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose with all its splendor.
It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced
to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable.Hair and nails fell out; Pottery broke
without apparent cause,and the birds turned white. After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected…
to escape from this fire the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their
equipment.”
“Dense arrows of flame, like a great shower, issued forth upon creation, encompassing the enemy.
A thick gloom swiftly settled upon the Pandava hosts.All points of the compass were lost in
darkness.Fierce wind began to blow upward, showering dust and gravel.
Birds croaked madly… the very elements seemed disturbed.The earth shook, scorched by the
terrible violent heat of this weapon.Elephants burst into flame and ran to and fro in a frenzy.
over a vast area, other animals crumpled to the ground and died.From all points of the
compass the arrows of flame rained continuously and fiercely.”

You get to play as an Natzi Templar hunter scouring old ancient ruins in search of Isu relics that the Natzis are after. Especially this "Iron thunderbolt." As well as retrieving others from their strong holds in sprawling cities like Berlin and France. To diminish the Templars power.

This would makes the stakes especially high. Making the game that much better. I don't think that any of the Assassin's creed games had such high stakes. You feel that even if you lost and the Templars won, the Assassin's would alway recover. And the war will continue. But this hunt for an ancient Isu weapon that can whipe out entire civilizations at once will make the stakes feel especially high.

[KaMe]

Originally posted by rtoday.am:

I'm replaying assassin's creed untity and during one of the missions when you do a memory warp that takes you to Paris during ww2, I thought of something. Wouldn't AC WW2 be perfect? If you look at Natzi ideology, that's like the Templar ideology of complete control taken to extreme form. The Natzi crosses look very similar to templar crosses

Templar Black Cross and Natzi Cross

[Img]https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/assassinscreed/images/4/47/Black_Cross.png/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/360?cb=20210219053808[\img]


[Img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/German_Cross.svg[\img]


Wiki:
"Black Cross, is an enigmatic rank created by the Inner Sanctum to fight corruption within the Templar Order and search for Pieces of Eden, the Council of Elders had influence during the earliest years of the Black Cross.

Secret inquisitors only answering to the Inner Sanctum's orders, the agents were authorized to use any means necessary, even deadly force, to take down corrupted members of the Order within Rites. The Black Cross were tasked with keeping the Grand Masters and their subordinates in line with the Templar Code and ideals.

Deadly enforcers acting as an independent morality police force of one man, very few individuals wore the title of Black Cross across the centuries though the Bolden family line counted many among their number."

That sound like Natzis and the Secret Police.

They could link the "master race" to Isu. And make Hitler a sage. Not to mention that Hitler sent out Natzis across the world to find ancient artifacts and holy relics. These could easily be Isu relics in AC lore.

I just think that the dynamics of WW2 would really fit in well with AC lore.

Sure some people might say that modern times is no time for Assassin's creed ype of stealth play. But let's take a look at the reality. There are many successful modern stealth games. Uncharted has a good stealth system. Splinter Cells has a good stealth system. So it's definitely possible. I imagine the stealth to be alot like Uncharted (which is alot like AC) but with hidden blade and silenced pistols. Sleeping darts, and berserk darts will still be good in this type of game play. Natzi hunters were known to hang Natzis. So they could fit Rope darts in easily too.

Not to mention, It would be a massive improvement on where the franchise is heading now.

There is no such thing as "Nazi Cross". The thing you posted is the German Iron Cross. Wich has nothing to do with the Nazis. And it is still used by the German Military today.

[LenaPrime]

this is straying into some maybe not great territory for the steam forums

[CursedPanther]

Originally posted by LenaPrime:

this is straying into some maybe not great territory for the steam forums

No argument here.

Another precise reason Ubisoft wants to avoid WW2 is becuz of Nazism or the fascist ideology as a whole. The Swastika is officially banned in Germany and Israel for starters. Any form of justifying, rationalizing or romanticizing of the atrocities of WW2 will not be tolerated by the general public in this modern era, be it fictionalized or academic.

[LenaPrime]

yeah maybe that's why syndicate had a WW1 section, not a WW2 section, because it wasn't... well, nazis in ww1

[Lord John the Liberator]

Hakenkreuz

[RoxxasTheDemonslayer]

NO.
1. politics
2. weapons of the time period dont fit AC. No swords all guns

[Lord John the Liberator]

Originally posted by RoxxasTheDemonslayer:

NO.
1. politics
2. weapons of the time period dont fit AC. No swords all guns

there were still swords, though I think mostly ceremonial

[conejeitor]

Enough with Europe and the West...
what about the Persians, the Indians, the Asians, the Maya.....

[Lord John the Liberator]

Originally posted by conejeitor:

Enough with Europe and the West...
what about the Persians, the Indians, the Asians, the Maya.....

could do it with the aztecs, maybe you play as one of Hernan Cortes' men or a disgruntled native who joins the assassins