Were Season Customization Options ever added?

[Crazy Alchemy]

I know you can research winter techs and I don't think anyone wants winter removed entirely but one thing that makes the game unappealing is that winters get longer and longer without end until eventually there are several times as many winter turns as summer turns.

This happens when people drag games on for more than the typical number of turns expected by the developers which people who enjoy 4x games may do for any number of reasons.

One reason people have asked for season options to adjust this is because even if you have all of the winter techs and upgraded heroes it still changes the way the map looks and endless snow and wind just isn't as fun to look at, besides which, the AI can't seem to handle it.

So I've been putting off buying the game until there's a way to play for as long as I want without having increasingly long winters creep up.

Before anyone mentions the story and the lore reasons, hey guys, Magic Nanomachines, Fantastical Temporary Solutions, The army of Penguins will arrive eventually but definitely not before the player finished the map!

[Neshamah]

The increasing winter is part of the game's storyline. You are asking to change the entire game. Fighting against other factions is fun and all, but fighting the increasingly hostile weather is what this game is all about.

Perhaps they will make an expansion (or a second game) that will have the kind of seasons and weather you prefer.

At any rate, you should actually buy and play the game before you bash it.

[Crazy Alchemy]

Originally posted by Neshamah:

The increasing winter is part of the game's storyline.

That doesn't matter and that response is already addressed in the original post.

Originally posted by Neshamah:

You are asking to change the entire game.

No I'm not. Stable seasons wouldn't change the entire game. The ability to somehow reverese the increasing winter at some point in the main quest wouldn't change the entire game.

Originally posted by Neshamah:

Fighting against other factions is fun and all, but fighting the increasingly hostile weather is what this game is all about.

Oh so people shouldn't be allowed to play the game in any other way? A 4x game that twists the players arm like that and doesn't provide any options around it basically just punishes people who like to play long games on bigger maps.

Originally posted by Neshamah:

At any rate, you should actually buy and play the game before you bash it.

I didn't bash it and I have a right to speak and inquire about it, you don't have any right to determine who should and should not be allowed to discuss the game.

Also I'm inquiring about the game because I'm interested in buying it as soon as there are Seasons Options in the map settings or quests that can resolve the endlessly increasing winters.

[PhailRaptor]

Originally posted by Neshamah:

The increasing winter is part of the game's storyline. You are asking to change the entire game. Fighting against other factions is fun and all, but fighting the increasingly hostile weather is what this game is all about.

Why is it that whenever someone says "modify the parameters of winter", everyone reads it as "GET RID OF WINTER NAO!!"? I really, really don't understand this.

[Crazy Alchemy]

Originally posted by PhailRaptor:

Originally posted by Neshamah:

The increasing winter is part of the game's storyline. You are asking to change the entire game. Fighting against other factions is fun and all, but fighting the increasingly hostile weather is what this game is all about.

Why is it that whenever someone says "modify the parameters of winter", everyone reads it as "GET RID OF WINTER NAO!!"? I really, really don't understand this.

For real. Even devs are guilty, and should be professionally embarrassed by that.

Also why do people never just come right out and answer the question?

[easytarget]

The question has already been answer by Neshamah, here I'll quote it for you again: The increasing winter is part of the game's storyline.

Next thing you imbeciles will be suggsting will be a re-write of Game of Thrones where they remove (shorten, lengthen, in some way change) that winter too, right?!

[Crazy Alchemy]

Originally posted by easytarget:

The increasing winter is part of the game's storyline.

And that doesn't matter, nor is it a direct answer to the question, and it's a stupid argument to make and I've given reasons why.

Originally posted by easytarget:

Next thing you imbeciles

Classy. But it's possible to work into the story in a variety of ways, for example, repeatable quests could be added to stabalize the seasons if the player enables them, or "the dire penguines will arrive eventually, but definitely not before the player finishes the map" in other words fate doesn't have to be fulfilled within the course of a single game.

Winter is coming but it's entirely up to the author when it arrives. An imbecile wouldn't realize that. Did you realize that?

Also Game of Thrones isn't a 4X game so it's a stupid comparison.

[Steph(✿◠‿◠)]

Please, there's no need to argue or insult anyone...

OP, we haven't done changed anything about the seasons in Endless Legend, but if I may ask: have you tried this mod? http://www.nexusmods.com/endlesslegend/mods/14/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fendlesslegend%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D14%26preview%3D&pUp=1

[Crazy Alchemy]

Originally posted by Steph.(✿◠‿◠):

Please, there's no need to argue or insult anyone...

OP, we haven't done changed anything about the seasons in Endless Legend, but if I may ask: have you tried this mod? http://www.nexusmods.com/endlesslegend/mods/14/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fendlesslegend%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D14%26preview%3D&pUp=1

Nope I haven't bought the game because I'm put off by the endless winters. If a modder can do it, any chance it will ever become a feature? Like, a toggle option or something?

[Jiks]

Red,

Dunno if this any help to you or not but firstly, the endless winters issue is not a real thing. However far you go into the game there is always a brief period without it. Personnaly, I've never experienced one of my own play throughs go past 50/50 sumner/winter unless I was shamelessly gaming things for a Steam acheivment.

Main reason I'm posting here is you are obviously the kind of guy who likes his 4X games to be epic in length, as am I. GalCiv, Civ itself I always play on Very Slow/Marathon.

Now for some reason that just does not feel right here, Endless Legend has a natual pace on Normal speed that is much faster, to me the other speed settings feel somewhat contrived. I can't put my finger on exactly why that is.

That might well put you off but this game, even though it's outside my comfort zone, IMO is pretty fantastic anyway.

[Crazy Alchemy]

Originally posted by Jiks:

Red,

Dunno if this any help to you or not but firstly, the endless winters issue is not a real thing. However far you go into the game there is always a brief period without it.

Summer gets shorter every time and winter gets longer every time so you can enter a situation with like 20 turns winter and only 2 turns summer, in every way that actually matters to people that's endless winter. That's obviously the context.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Personnaly

But what's the highest number of turns you've ever played?

[Neshamah]

OP, I was not trying to be an ***hole or question your sanity. I was simply stating a fact that the game's storyline INCLUDES the winter as an "enemy" that you must conquer.

I don't believe that anything I said deserves your condescending tone. My opinion is as valid as yours.

[Jiks]

@ Red, 300 on Normal speed, which imagine is equivalent to significantly more on the slowest speed. That was to get a Score victory BTW. I could have won far earlier. As had planned this I was playing the Vaulters and therefore wasn't really playing any attention to winter length as it is a big boost for them...

Other than that, 297 on my first ever game when I had no clue what I was doing. At that stage sumner was 5-7 turns maybe if memory serves but it was a long time ago and I notoriously have the memory of a goldfish. Hopefully someone with functionning brain can comfirm or correct that...

[Crazy Alchemy]

Originally posted by Neshamah:

I was simply stating a fact that the game's storyline INCLUDES the winter as an "enemy" that you must conquer.

And I stated the fact that temporary solutions to stabalize the seasons could rather easily be worked into the story, besides which, fate doesn't have to come within a single play session. The dire penguines will arrive eventually, but definitely not before the player finishes the map, if the world has to die in endless winter for lore reasons there's no reason that has to be while the player is playing.

Originally posted by Neshamah:

My opinion is as valid as yours.

Your opinion is supported by an argument I've just refuted and there's no valid reason your personal preference should be forced on everyone else.

[Crazy Alchemy]

Originally posted by Jiks:

@ Red, 300 on Normal speed, which imagine is equivalent to significantly more on the slowest speed

I understood from other posts that the slowest speeds don't slow down the rate at which seasons creep but maybe that was wrong or changed.

If that's right though, this essentially punishes people who like to play drawn out games on huge maps.

As you can understand since you enjoy Gal Civ on big maps, not everyone plays 4x games to win, winning comes later when the player's finished occpying and maxing out every last base that's possible and fooled around with alliances for long enough.

[Citronvand]

I find the "storyline" argument to be very bad. In that sense I could argue that all Empires must all be on the map, because they're part of the storyline. Yet, I can remove any of them whenever I start a new game. I could change the whole world, make it a pangea, a supercontinent or I could turn it into a waterworld with very little land.

I don't want to remove the winter, I want to change the arbitary numbers behind it. Sometimes I like the current implementation, sometimes I would like more normal season where 20 turns winter and 2 turns summer doesn't exist. I don't care about the storyline as much as I care about the gameplay.

Considering how many options there are for a new game I am very surprised there is zero customization for the winter mechanics.