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We need Chinese language!!!!!!!!!!
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Автор сообщения: Migz - DH
Автор сообщения: Aiden
Is this the trigger of the whole mess?

That is part of the problem, yes, but I believe that this was the largest problem actually:

诸位可以自行-->点此下载的1.35s3游戏(全DLC版本)<--[link removed],然后替换\Endless Legend\EndlessLegend_Data内的所有内容,之后打上字库文件订阅工坊就ok了。无VAC问题,只不过是简单的替换文件。放心。

The link I removed went to 3DMgame's site.

(If you look at the cached page Google has saved for http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=614779269 , you can find the exact link by looking in that text.)

As said above, it was the ban, not the removal of the mod, that drove all of us mad.

We didn't really mind if the mod was banned or not, because with new patches it was no longer available. And we decided not to update the mod any more just because of unity's poor support of Chinese.
Автор сообщения: Migz - DH
Автор сообщения: Aiden
Is this the trigger of the whole mess?

That is part of the problem, yes, but I believe that this was the largest problem actually:

诸位可以自行-->点此下载的1.35s3游戏(全DLC版本)<--[link removed],然后替换\Endless Legend\EndlessLegend_Data内的所有内容,之后打上字库文件订阅工坊就ok了。无VAC问题,只不过是简单的替换文件。放心。

The link I removed went to 3DMgame's site.

(If you look at the cached page Google has saved for http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=614779269 , you can find the exact link by looking in that text.)

As of the 3DM link, because there are no offcial ways for Chinese to get an older version of this game.
Автор сообщения: Migz - DH
Автор сообщения: Aiden
Is this the trigger of the whole mess?

That is part of the problem, yes, but I believe that this was the largest problem actually:

诸位可以自行-->点此下载的1.35s3游戏(全DLC版本)<--[link removed],然后替换\Endless Legend\EndlessLegend_Data内的所有内容,之后打上字库文件订阅工坊就ok了。无VAC问题,只不过是简单的替换文件。放心。

The link I removed went to 3DMgame's site.

(If you look at the cached page Google has saved for http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=614779269 , you can find the exact link by looking in that text.)

I've no idea what to say. This is basically a no-win situation.
Отредактировано A--; 24 июн. 2016 г. в 6:03
we just need Chinese!!!!
Автор сообщения: by22dgb
As said above, it was the ban, not the removal of the mod, that drove all of us mad.

We didn't really mind if the mod was banned or not, because with new patches it was no longer available. And we decided not to update the mod any more just because of unity's poor support of Chinese.

Ok, but what ban? None of you seem to have been banned from the Steam Community, because you've all posted in this forum. Were you banned from something else?
Отредактировано Migz - DH; 24 июн. 2016 г. в 6:32
Автор сообщения: Aiden
I've no idea what to say. This is basically a no-win situation.

I guess the three options are:
1. Find a different place to host their old (not cracked) version of Endless Legend
2. Update the mod to be compatible with the latest version of Endless Legend
3. Give up on the mod (which is what they've currently chosen).
Автор сообщения: by22dgb
As said above, it was the ban, not the removal of the mod, that drove all of us mad.
Автор сообщения: Migz - DH
Ok, but what ban? None of you seem to have been banned from the Steam Community, because you've all posted in this forum. Were you banned from something else?

I think that might be another misunderstanding.
In his complaint on local forums[steamcn.com] authors shows a screenshot of the automated email[steamcn.com] he received from Steam.
It's explicitly stated there, it was MOD that was banned, not the author. Additionally, author was stripped off the ability to publish any kind of user-generated content for the period of 1 day to prevent immediate republishing.
And that does mean ANY content, including artworks, guides, screenshots etc.

He probably tried to publish an artwork or screenshot, got the error and that made him sad. :S
Отредактировано Sublustris; 24 июн. 2016 г. в 7:10
Ah, I see.

That process definitely wasn't a personal attack or anything negative like that.
Автор сообщения: 00喵了个咪00
鱼唇的开发商,幸好我喜加1之前看到这段了。
现在看来是因为游戏更新,所以汉化模组无法在新版本上使用,模组作者认为放出3DM下载链接可以方便玩家使用旧的游戏版本从而获得汉化,殊不知这违反了Steam社区守则。我问了作者本人关于3DM链接的问题,他并没有正面回答我这个问题。

我当然知道单人制作一个汉化模组并不容易,但是这样的事情发生,对所有人来说都是很遗憾的。

English version:
It turns out that the translation mod cannot be applied to the latest version of the game, and the mod author thought it would be considerate to provide a 3DM download link for those who wanted an old version which was compatible with the mod. However, the problem is that this kind of activity violated the regulations of Steam. I asked the author about the issue of 3DM, but he did not response my question directly.

I am surely aware of the fact that it is not easy to make such a mod alone; nevertheless, it is a shame for everyone after all the mess occurred.
Автор сообщения: Migz - DH
Автор сообщения: Aiden
I've no idea what to say. This is basically a no-win situation.

I guess the three options are:
1. Find a different place to host their old (not cracked) version of Endless Legend
2. Update the mod to be compatible with the latest version of Endless Legend
3. Give up on the mod (which is what they've currently chosen).

I would like to make an apology for offensive comments. The reason why I did so is as follows:

The author started a thread on steamcn.com/t198688-1-1 (it is a third-party Chinese fan site). As the OP, he complained about being banned but he did not mention the 3DM thing. Since this kind of prejudice happened several times before (not in this game), basically I thought he was facing some misunderstanding against him.

Eventually, after the further discussion, I noticed that the gray area did exist and I would like to withdraw my previous view.
Отредактировано A--; 24 июн. 2016 г. в 18:28
Автор сообщения: EmeraldMegalith
闹出这么一档子事实在是让人扫兴,官方不经任何调查就采取如此严厉的措施,这个行为确实应该谴责。
但是,规矩不是Amplitude定的,是Steam的用户条款,所以这件事与官方对汉化的态度完全是两码事。另外,你们做汉化为的不是官方,而是广大玩家。现在事情解释清楚了,以前发生的事,封号,mod被删,都是可以挽回的。好好的一个mod因为这件事就停了工,实在是可惜。
我看现在官方有意与你们合作。能把汉化的工作进行到底,才是你这个小组的最大胜利。
如果你们在与官方联系时需要任何英文上的帮助或者是翻译,我可以为你们提供。

还有,“好心当作驴肝肺”翻译成英文应该是“taking good intention for bad”。
还是散了吧,简直是一场闹剧。

我怀着作者完全没有违反Steam守则的心态力挺,质疑对方给出来的证据。你猜怎么样?

1. 对方指出在作者原Mod页面有两个重要信息:
a. 放出了3DM旧版Endless Legend的下载链接。
当然他可能不是为了推广3DM,而是考虑到Steam上只能下载最新版,而只有旧版和他的汉化mod兼容。起因是,基于Unity引擎的问题,每次游戏更新之后mod都要重新制作,他感觉无法及时跟进。总的来说,就是这一条违反了Steam守则而遭到了多个用户的举报。
b. 在mod中指出欢迎3DM转载并感谢了3DM的帮助。
这一点的后半部分我不觉得有什么问题,但是前半句似乎有一种和3DM合作的意味。

2. 我联系了原作者,询问了关于mod中是否存在3DM链接的问题
作者表示他还有学习和工作,不想再纠缠其中了。我当然理解作为一个独立汉化人的不易,但是这并没有正面回答3DM链接是否曾经存在的疑问。如果作者肯定的告诉我他绝对没有做出上述1点提到的事情,那在验证之后我们当然需要力挺,毕竟我们怎么能看到作者被人这样恶意地污蔑呢?但是现在作者的表述,让我没有办法再去鼎力地为他争取这一口气了。
Автор сообщения: Aiden
Автор сообщения: Migz - DH

I guess the three options are:
1. Find a different place to host their old (not cracked) version of Endless Legend
2. Update the mod to be compatible with the latest version of Endless Legend
3. Give up on the mod (which is what they've currently chosen).

I would like to make an apology for offensive comments.

Things happen. :-)

I hope that next time you won't assume the worst right away. 再见
虽然感谢作者的汉化,但是我认为作者的处理是有问题的
Автор сообщения: Migz - DH
Автор сообщения: Aiden

I would like to make an apology for offensive comments.

Things happen. :-)

I hope that next time you won't assume the worst right away. 再见

It was a lesson for me. Perhaps I should focus on English forums instead. Personally, I have only played English games since the year 2014. Learning English is rewarding and benefits me quite a lot.
嗯,给这个公司所有游戏差评然后结束这无聊的争论,可惜已过退款时间了。
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