Memory leak/micro stutter the more you play?

[Kurtino]

I get a microstutter every so often and my FPS is slowly tanking the more I play. Start at above 144+, then between 130-140 with microstutters by turn 16. By the time I reach turn 100 I'm down to 40 fps and getting lower.

[Bad_Conduct]

Is your memory full and your page file being use?
Why did you assume it's a memory leak?

If anything, it's probably your hardware thermal throttling. Did you check your temps? Are they over 80?

[Kurtino]

Цитата допису Bad_Conduct:

Is your memory full and your page file being use?
Why did you assume it's a memory leak?

If anything, it's probably your hardware thermal throttling. Did you check your temps? Are they over 80?

No it's not my hardware thermal throttling...If I started with 144 fps why do you think my computer would overheat to lose as dramatic as 100 fps?

I assumed it was a leak because the more I play, the slower it becomes. I'm currently using 3.1k memory and my friends in the same game are using 1.5-1.7k

[strike478]

I played it while downloading Fortnite and no problems occured.

[Bad_Conduct]

Цитата допису Kurtino:

Цитата допису Bad_Conduct:

Is your memory full and your page file being use?
Why did you assume it's a memory leak?

If anything, it's probably your hardware thermal throttling. Did you check your temps? Are they over 80?

No it's not my hardware thermal throttling...If I started with 144 fps why do you think my computer would overheat to lose as dramatic as 100 fps?

I assumed it was a leak because the more I play, the slower it becomes. I'm currently using 3.1k memory and my friends in the same game are using 1.5-1.7k

Because it's been running for 2-3 hours at 100% usage? The CPU will throttle if it's too hot, hence the performance drop.

3.1k of memory? Kilobits? lol

Memory usage is relative to how much memory your system has typically, he probably has less RAM. And unless it's 100%, it makes no difference. That's not a memory leak.

[Kurtino]

Цитата допису Bad_Conduct:

Цитата допису Kurtino:

No it's not my hardware thermal throttling...If I started with 144 fps why do you think my computer would overheat to lose as dramatic as 100 fps?

I assumed it was a leak because the more I play, the slower it becomes. I'm currently using 3.1k memory and my friends in the same game are using 1.5-1.7k

Because it's been running for 2-3 hours at 100% usage? The CPU will throttle if it's too hot, hence the performance drop.

3.1k of memory? Kilobits? lol

Memory usage is relative to how much memory your system has typically, he probably has less RAM. And unless it's 100%, it makes no difference. That's not a memory leak.

No, memory usage of the application... 3.1GB or 3100 MB. I don't really think you know what you're talking about. And yes, if out of my game of 6 people everyone has the same memory usage from the application except for mine which is doubled, but I'm also the only one experiencing decaying framerate, I doubt it's because they all just have "less RAM".

I have a 8700k, Titan X (Pascal) all with custom water cooling, 32GB of RAM @ 3000hz, ASUS Maximus X motherboard, have the game installed on a 1TB SSD which is the 970 Pro M.2.

No my computer does not overheat on this game nor should it should; this shouldn't scratch it. No this game doesn't push my CPU or GPU to 100%, it was something around 20-30% for 2-3 hours. Just to put you at rest, my temps were not over 80 and was about 50-60 with no rises since this game isn't intensive enough to push it.

[Capron Denim]

Цитата допису strike478:

I played it while downloading Fortnite and no problems occured.

This contributes basically nothing.

[Bad_Conduct]

Цитата допису Kurtino:

I don't really think you know what you're talking about.

Yeah, I noticed.

It's a 64 bit application, it can use as much memory as it wants.
A memory leak is when the application just consumes more and more RAM, unless it's using the full system memory, then starts using the page file.
The slow downs would be caused by the system reading your HDD excessively in this case.

Here's mine;
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1643224497

You are probably looking at the wrong memory.
The green memory at the top is the GPU memory usage (1.2GB)
The orange memory at the bottom is the system memory, which is 9.0 GB.

You are just jumping to conclusions here.

If the game is just slowing down after a few hours, the most likely cause is that something is overheating and causing either your CPU or your GPU to start throttling, because that would cause a performance impact you could measure.

But you can easily see this if you run MSI Afterburner.

edit; I'd also add this game is fairly CPU intensive, I'm running on a 1920X, and the GPU usage is only hovering around 33%, the game is bottlenecking on my CPU.

[Kurtino]

Цитата допису Bad_Conduct:

Цитата допису Kurtino:

I don't really think you know what you're talking about.

Yeah, I noticed.

It's a 64 bit application, it can use as much memory as it wants.
A memory leak is when the application just consumes more and more RAM, unless it's using the full system memory, then starts using the page file.
The slow downs would be caused by the system reading your HDD excessively in this case.

Here's mine;
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1643224497

You are probably looking at the wrong memory.
The green memory at the top is the GPU memory usage (1.2GB)
The orange memory at the bottom is the system memory, which is 9.0 GB.

You are just jumping to conclusions here.

If the game is just slowing down after a few hours, the most likely cause is that something is overheating and causing either your CPU or your GPU to start throttling, because that would cause a performance impact you could measure.

But you can easily see this if you run MSI Afterburner.

edit; I'd also add this game is fairly CPU intensive, I'm running on a 1920X, and the GPU usage is only hovering around 33%, the game is bottlenecking on my CPU.

I've already told you though, my computer is not overheating, that's the conclusion jump. To expect a FPS dip of 100 after overheating as well, jeez. I even gave you the parts and the temperature. I have dedicated software to monitor my temperatures; I don't need MSI afterburner.

It's also not from time played, although it could be a combination. It's from the amount of turns taken, so the more turns I take the slower it becomes. If I restart and reload a game that has 100+ turns for example, I'm still lagging. This does not seem like a memory leak, but my memory usage is still higher than the 5 other players I'm playing by a reasonable amount.

Still, it's easier to describe degradation of performance over time by one of the most popular culprits, memory leaks. Either way I am getting slower and slower performance the more turns I take, and a microstutter starts to appear more violently.

[Bad_Conduct]

Цитата допису Kurtino:

Цитата допису Bad_Conduct:

Yeah, I noticed.

It's a 64 bit application, it can use as much memory as it wants.
A memory leak is when the application just consumes more and more RAM, unless it's using the full system memory, then starts using the page file.
The slow downs would be caused by the system reading your HDD excessively in this case.

Here's mine;
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1643224497

You are probably looking at the wrong memory.
The green memory at the top is the GPU memory usage (1.2GB)
The orange memory at the bottom is the system memory, which is 9.0 GB.

You are just jumping to conclusions here.

If the game is just slowing down after a few hours, the most likely cause is that something is overheating and causing either your CPU or your GPU to start throttling, because that would cause a performance impact you could measure.

But you can easily see this if you run MSI Afterburner.

edit; I'd also add this game is fairly CPU intensive, I'm running on a 1920X, and the GPU usage is only hovering around 33%, the game is bottlenecking on my CPU.

I've already told you though, my computer is not overheating, that's the conclusion jump. To expect a FPS dip of 100 after overheating as well, jeez. I even gave you the parts and the temperature. I have dedicated software to monitor my temperatures; I don't need MSI afterburner.

It's also not from time played, although it could be a combination. It's from the amount of turns taken, so the more turns I take the slower it becomes. If I restart and reload a game that has 100+ turns for example, I'm still lagging. This does not seem like a memory leak, but my memory usage is still higher than the 5 other players I'm playing by a reasonable amount.

Still, it's easier to describe degradation of performance over time by one of the most popular culprits, memory leaks. Either way I am getting slower and slower performance the more turns I take, and a microstutter starts to appear more violently.

Well, if you know what the problem is, good luck figuring it out yourself.

[Kurtino]

Цитата допису Bad_Conduct:

Well, if you know what the problem is, good luck figuring it out yourself.

If by knowing the problem you mean that I've identified that the longer I play the slower my performance is, then yes I already knew that and already said so. Thank you for the suggestion of it possibly being my computer heating up that I would lose over 100 frames consistently relative to play time. (My computer isn't on fire, if I was getting such an insane performance drop from overheating, my game and or computer would crash rather than letting me play out the game consistently in some burning inferno)

[Bad_Conduct]

Цитата допису Kurtino:

Цитата допису Bad_Conduct:

Well, if you know what the problem is, good luck figuring it out yourself.

If by knowing the problem you mean that I've identified that the longer I play the slower my performance is, then yes I already knew that and already said so. Thank you for the suggestion of it possibly being my computer heating up that I would lose over 100 frames consistently relative to play time. (My computer isn't on fire, if I was getting such an insane performance drop from overheating, my game and or computer would crash rather than letting me play out the game consistently in some burning inferno)

Yeah, sure. You're the expert.
Good luck with that.

[strike478]

I have quite average desktop with 8GB of outdated ram (DDR3 1600mhz), no SSD and managed to play it without problems while downloading fortnite.

[Fry McFly]

Solution:
Install the Endless Legend Community Patch and the stuttering should (mostly) disappear.
https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/endless-legend/forums/15-modding/threads/30618-endless-legend-community-patch