Should I try Endless Legend or Endless Space 2?

[Turbo Nozomix]

I haven't played any of this series before. So, maybe whichever one has a better tutorial (if either of them do) would be the better one.

I'm a bit more drawn to the fantasy look of Endless Legend than Endless Space 2.

Which do you recommend, and why?

[zykva]

I prefer endless legend cause factions are really different so each gameplay is different if you choose one faction or another

[bacon.]

I prefer Endless Legend. Although the games are similar Endless Space seems a bit more difficult for me to grasp. I automatically felt at home with Endless Legend after loving games like Civ.

Believe me, you'll start with Endless Legend, but you'll probably give all the games a try. BTW, right now at the developer's website you can get the Endless Space Collection for free by linking your steam account. So, you can get a free taste of what that game is like as well.

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[bacon.]

I have to add that Amplitude Studios is a game developer that I have faith in (and there aren't many). They really love their games and they show appreciation for and respect to their fans. I'd register an account on their page to give feedback for future content, and voting.

[Happosai]

Endless Legend is more like Turn based Heroes of Might and Magic mixed with Civilization 4x factor. If you like building armies and see more fantasy go EL. Choose Endless Space 2 if you prefer a little more polish interface, would like to focus more in tech-expansion-lore and of course, prefer space theme. the lore shares similarities but the battles are more secondary, it is more 4x style.

[RetiredReplicant]

Endless Legend > Endless Space 2 in dymanic choices and stretegy. I enjoy both, but Endless Space 2 has much shallower gameplay mechanics. In the 4x world, Endless Legend is a game changer while Endless Space 2 is more of the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Uk13mQdm0

May not be the best video, but it articulates how I feel about Endless Legend (and Stellaris).

[Turbo Nozomix]

Thanks for the advice. I installed Endless Legend and it starts up fine, but then it runs at 20 FPS no matter what I put the settings at. Also, I have a pretty powerful PC that I think should have no problem running the game:

i7 2600K @ 4.6 Ghz
GTX 1070 @ 2 Ghz
16 GB of RAM

Anyone know what the issue is?

[bacon.]

Do you also have some sort of integrated graphics? I run mine on a laptop with a gtx960 and sometimes games will open with integrated graphics instead.

[Turbo Nozomix]

Originally posted by bacon.:

Do you also have some sort of integrated graphics? I run mine on a laptop with a gtx960 and sometimes games will open with integrated graphics instead.

Mmm, dunno. i7 2600K, desktop CPU in a desktop PC. The monitor is connected to the GTX 1070.

[bacon.]

shouldn't be integrated. :thinking: maybe limit frames to your refresh rate. but if you have a high refresh rate limit to 60?

There are some people who have had frames issues during the tutorial. Try starting a new game without doing the tutorial?

If none of the above, maybe search or ask here: https://www.games2gether.com/endless-legend/forums/13-tech-support

[Jodet]

Endless Legend, definitely. Better gameplay. And I really prefer the art and music and backstory. I'm a big 4x guy but I just can't get into Endless Space 2. It's a spectacular game but I just don't find it as fun as Endless Legend.

[SwimSwim]

Now that i've played both the main difference is scale , really.
Endless Space focuses on bigger systems, bigger resource management, complex diplomatic relationships and faction-unique gameplay mechanics (Vodyani, Cravers and Horatio have really cool mechanics!) the research tree is 5 times bigger.
also has very good lore to compensate for the lack of real time combat (combat is still complex, being affected by nearby stars and blackholes, the system or ship's crew and special damage types for example), in Endless Space you design your ships, choose a strategy and the battle plays out, expect to lose 30-50 turns of full industrialist grow in 4 battles against the harder AI's.

Endless Legend has less resources to manage but the way resources are extracted makes you choose carefully on what you're doing.
but Endless Legend has a totally different combat system, with different unit types and dozens of passive effects and skills for the phase-to-phase combat, however it always feels muuch slower, a true nightmare if you're in a big military campaign and the game forces you to take manual control otherwise god knows what happens to your troops but they find the way to die outnumbering the enemy 4 to 1 in the plains, the +50 defense buff in forest or attack increase in high terrain are bland simple mechanics compared to the FLAK, manpower and range modifiers that you control on Endless Space

Endless Space has very consistent results once you learn how it works, you can counter their fleets and safely send them to battle with your chosen battle plan and know what is going to happen. Only in the hardest difficulty the AI counters your countering from time to time leaving you with a obliterated fleet and a perplexed expression.

Anyway, you will most likely end up playing both of them