Sid Meier's Civilization VI

Sid Meier's Civilization VI

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Out Of Disk Space - What Are My Options?
I have been playing Civilization V on my MacBook Pro (intel) and just bought Civilization VI. I'm out of space on my hard drive after the VI download. What are my options?

I have an SD card volume in the MacBook with plenty of space. If I try and move these two games to the SD card will the games be playable or will they take a huge performance hit?

I also have an M1 Mac Mini but I prefer to play on the MacBook otherwise I'm stuck at my office desk to play and that's not desirable. Can I try out the VI version on the M1? Can I play these games from difference computers using the same account?

Apologies for the newbie questions and thanks for any advice/help in advance.
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Copernicus Mar 19, 2024 @ 10:28am 
Personally, I like to keep most of my games on an external drive; I don't need them all the time, and if needed I can switch between external drives for additional space or for backups.

I think portable SSDs are fairly inexpensive these days...
Albinosaurus Mar 19, 2024 @ 12:56pm 
First recommendation: Don't expect Mac to be a gaming PC, lol.

Jokes aside, are you sure you can't make room on your disk? I suppose an external drive could work, but without knowing the specs of all your hardware (or testing myself), I don't know if you would see a lot in the way of performance issues. Assuming it has good performance to start with, an external drive is likely to just cause longer load times, but shouldn't be a big deal once everything that needs to gets loaded into your RAM unless the transfer rate for the external drive is particularly slow. These kinds of games are usually more taxing on CPU and RAM than much else, with a few exceptions (looking at you, Cities Skylines 2).
Lemurian1972 Mar 19, 2024 @ 1:05pm 
Originally posted by macupdatesteem:
I have an SD card volume in the MacBook with plenty of space. If I try and move these two games to the SD card will the games be playable or will they take a huge performance hit?

The difference between a primary SD drive and an auxiliary SD that's still internal is negligible. Two internal drives both run on the same bus. The only time you'd even have a chance at slowdown is an external SD running off USB, and even then it's SD so it's fast.

What really matters of Civ VI performance is whether you have enough RAM, and I have no idea how well the Mac version handles that.

Keep things simple to start, don't add a ton of mods, don't generate games on massive maps with lots of AI, and you should be fine.
Copernicus Mar 19, 2024 @ 4:34pm 
Originally posted by Albinosaurus:
First recommendation: Don't expect Mac to be a gaming PC, lol.

An Intel MacBook Pro makes a superb gaming machine. Just use Windows (or Linux) on it when you want to game. ;)

Also, an SD Card is a very different beast from an SSD. You definitely don't want to try running programs off an SD card if you don't have to; they are terribly slow and can be unreliable. Stick to devices designed for use as primary storage for a computer.
macupdatesteem Mar 19, 2024 @ 5:04pm 
Thanks all, I appreciate the replies. I'll see if I can move things to the SD drive. I have 16GB of RAM. The game plays pretty good on my MacBook and as has been mentioned, it's the loading time that is the slow part.
OG sK33n0 Mar 21, 2024 @ 10:34am 
Sd will be fine unless its in a cheap usb dongle, either way you should be good
Lemurian1972 Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:06pm 
Originally posted by Copernicus:
Originally posted by Albinosaurus:
First recommendation: Don't expect Mac to be a gaming PC, lol.

An Intel MacBook Pro makes a superb gaming machine. Just use Windows (or Linux) on it when you want to game. ;)

Also, an SD Card is a very different beast from an SSD. You definitely don't want to try running programs off an SD card if you don't have to; they are terribly slow and can be unreliable. Stick to devices designed for use as primary storage for a computer.

oh good eye. My tired brain read that as SSD. I'm not the best at keeping up with terminology these days, but you're very correct that an SD memory card is not the same as a drive.
bunies Mar 21, 2024 @ 2:30pm 
don't know ♥♥♥♥ about macs, but can't you just upgrade your hard drive or add an extra one ?
Copernicus Mar 21, 2024 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by bunies:
don't know ♥♥♥♥ about macs, but can't you just upgrade your hard drive or add an extra one ?

Apple has always been maniacal about optimizing both their hardware and software to minimize the user's need to understand computing, ever since Steve Job's "computer as toaster" concept (which was how the original Macintosh was designed). This means using relatively reliable components in a relatively sturdy and simple case, and limiting the user's access to the inside of the machine. As such, most Macs have no expansion slots, limited or no ability to replace/upgrade hard drives, and frequently no ability to replace/upgrade RAM.

They do, however, usually have extremely fast I/O ports, and lots of them. Thus, the normal way to add capacity to a Mac is to use an external device.
bunies Mar 21, 2024 @ 4:45pm 
Originally posted by Copernicus:
Originally posted by bunies:
don't know ♥♥♥♥ about macs, but can't you just upgrade your hard drive or add an extra one ?

Apple has always been maniacal about optimizing both their hardware and software to minimize the user's need to understand computing, ever since Steve Job's "computer as toaster" concept (which was how the original Macintosh was designed). This means using relatively reliable components in a relatively sturdy and simple case, and limiting the user's access to the inside of the machine. As such, most Macs have no expansion slots, limited or no ability to replace/upgrade hard drives, and frequently no ability to replace/upgrade RAM.

They do, however, usually have extremely fast I/O ports, and lots of them. Thus, the normal way to add capacity to a Mac is to use an external device.

so my decision to never mess with macs was correct and i should stick to it
Copernicus Mar 21, 2024 @ 5:04pm 
Originally posted by bunies:
so my decision to never mess with macs was correct and i should stick to it

Apple has never been all that interested in "general purpose computing"; they've tried to optimize for a specific segment of the market, and have been quite successful in doing so. In particular, their emphasis on simple, easy to use devices paid off overwhelmingly in the mobile devices market, where you really do want dependable machines that you can just pull out of your pocket and use in an instant.

Of course, this emphasis is much less important in desktop machines. Apple, which today is mostly a phone manufacturer, has pushed more and more to make its desktop machines look like phones, use phone hardware, and even run phone software. The new Apple Metal CPUs (M1, M2, etc.) are ARM processors, generally seen in phones, and capable of running iOS software. Apple has also been trying to sell the public on just how thin their new iMacs are, a feature that (in my view) has absolutely no value for a desktop computer. :)

So yeah, some percentage of people will feel more comfortable with a PC that looks and feels like a phone. But Apple is turning its back on classic desktop computing, and I suspect this will come to haunt it in the future. But hey, I'm not running a billion-dollar company...
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