Is Religon done wrong in Civ VI

[qsnoopyjr]

Take this into consideration,
entire world becomes Christian.

So who now what? Who wins?

This is my point, religon is not country/empire based.
If everyone converted to Islam, now what? Who wins?

Exactly.

Thinking there was a time period 1400s? The actual religious wars. I think religon was over empires? Not sure. Should religon have a turn limit like the game ends at a certain limit too?

I'm thinking politics is same way,
say if everyone becomes a democracy, now what? Someone win? Exactly nothing really changes in terms of victor as in some empire wins.

Lots more tweaking, several ways to go about this if you ask me. As in making AI hate you, making the citizens angry, etc. based on actions taken and what citizens like, say you trying to go Islam but all your cities are Christian, so all those citizens going to be super mad. Barbarians appearing lots of riots.

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Some countries/empires didn't found religions IRL, so either civ would have to remove those civilizations (leaving barely any options) or t would be impossible some civilizations to win a religion victory. Basically, if they made it realistic, it would ruin the religious aspect.

[Skumboni]

Religion is always done wrong. But I usually win the game with it because early apostles are more powerful than later nukes.

[grognardgary]

Not sure you can actually do it right what ever that would look like.,

[Evrach]

You know it's just a game, right ?

[colostmy4]

Religion was often a point of contention between countries and is likely why it factors in the game, but remember it is a game and is never going to be 100% true to real life. Games are fun, real war with real battles and real religious conflict with people fighting over beliefs is not. Just enjoy the game.

[Charlemagne]

The point of religious victory is that you spread your empire's religion, that you founded, to the whole world. One way of seeing it if you need an explanation is that the religion is more important to that empire than politics or military dominance. The same can be said about the cultural victory. You're not conquering other empires, just changing their culture to yours. So who wins? You win. The game, because it is just a game.
You do know that you can turn off the victory types that you don't like?

[Sstavix]

You do know that the Civilization games are not actual history simulators, right? Religion in Civ VI is just another tool to help your empire grow, and can be used as a victory condition if you play it right. If you want a game that reflects the influence of religion in the real world you will have to keep looking.

[Sinecure]

I agree religion is done wrong in Civ VI both logically and practically. If you turn off religion as a win condition the mechanics make more sense and become more fun.

[Nibbie]

Originally posted by qsnoopyjr:

Take this into consideration,
entire world becomes Christian.

So who now what? Who wins?

The pope, considering he now has influence over the entire world.

[Charlemagne]

Christianity and Islam have the goal in their doctrine of converting everyone in the world. It seems like an impossible goal, but it is there at least in principle. So the notion isn't that far fetched. "The Western World" tries to impose their ideas on everyone, so there you have Cultural Victory. I don't see how they don't fit in a game about the world.
As victories go, I find Domination victory especially boring, and never have bothered with it. But I don't deny its validity, after all "conquering the world" has been a goal of civilizations since the dawn of history.
I find diplomatic victory quite strange OTOH. With that one one can really ask, what does it mean?
I think Score victory would be the best, if you didn't need to play until the end of the game to get it.

[Grimmx]

You have an option to set up the game so it feels like you play Civ5.
I never liked the Religion wars in this game with its separate map, so that's how i play this game.

Edit: Use Ruleset : Standard Rules

[Charlemagne]

Originally posted by Grimmx:

You have an option to set up the game so it feels like you play Civ5.
I never liked the Religion wars in this game with its separate map, so that's how i play this game.

Edit: Use Ruleset : Standard Rules

I'm not following you here. Isn't the religion thing present since vanilla (standard ruleset?) And what do you mean the religion wars with a separate map?

[Dissenswurst]

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

Originally posted by Grimmx:

You have an option to set up the game so it feels like you play Civ5.
I never liked the Religion wars in this game with its separate map, so that's how i play this game.

Edit: Use Ruleset : Standard Rules

I'm not following you here. Isn't the religion thing present since vanilla (standard ruleset?) And what do you mean the religion wars with a separate map?

I would think Grimmx means the religion lens and the fact, that military units and religious units fight only their respective counterparts.

[Charlemagne]

Oh. I use lens sparingly and only to get my bearings. Playing with any type of lens on would be very obstructive. Even for religious victory you don't need to leave them on.
And I still don't get how playing on standard ruleset will change the way religion works.

[Grimmx]

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

Oh. I use lens sparingly and only to get my bearings. Playing with any type of lens on would be very obstructive. Even for religious victory you don't need to leave them on.
And I still don't get how playing on standard ruleset will change the way religion works.

Well, civ 6 has a specific ruleset for religion. Its more like a separate war function, where as in civ 5 it was very different, and not as obtrusive.
In civ 6 you also have a separate religion map you use when you try to win with religion. It often felt like playing two games at the same time.

If you use "Standard Ruleset" as base game, you get the benefits of all Civ 6 new units, graphics, and items, but dont have to care about the obtrusive religion wars.

I like it.