Secret societies do not trigger

[palhel]

Hi! I'm liking the secret societies. They give really great buffs to the gameplay. But I notice that they don't always appear. You're supposed to meet an envoy once you find a natural wonder, a city state, destroy a barbarian camp, or find a tribal camp. But sometimes they just...don't show up. No matter how many natural wonders I discover, on some playthroughs, I just never find the Hermetics. Sometimes the voidsingers never appear, even though I search half a dozen camps.

Anyone else have this problem.

[theguynamedguy]

From the wiki:

"The Hermetic Order's base chance of sending an invitation after you discover a Natural Wonder is 100%. However, as with other societies, this chance will get slightly smaller with every other civilization that joins this society (meaning "popular" societies will be less likely to send you an invitation)."

[Itchies500]

you have to ensure you do NOT pick a society until after you have discovered them all. If you CHOOSE a secret society as soon as you get it - none of the others will show up. Utilize the governor promotion to a different governor - and use the fourth one to pick the society you want.

[Itchies500]

majority of the time you will find them within the first 2-3 times of exploration - but - sometimes it's random. For tribes - make sure you use the Scout - they have increased benefit chance of good things from tribes.

[BatMart]

it's not a problem. there is a PROBABILITY that you will discover one when you do things like clearing barb camps, discovering a wonder, that's not guaranteed though. and the more people discover ss's, the lower the probability you will...

[palhel]

I see. That's annoying, since then the gameplay becomes more random, and less planned. I enjoy the strategy aspect of the game, but that requires that you can plan your actions. If such a massive effect (governor upgrades are massively powerful) is basically up to chance, there is less room for strategy.

[alangriffith]

Originally posted by Itchies500:

you have to ensure you do NOT pick a society until after you have discovered them all. If you CHOOSE a secret society as soon as you get it - none of the others will show up. Utilize the governor promotion to a different governor - and use the fourth one to pick the society you want.

This isn't true, unless it changed in the last patch. I chose Owls of Minerva and later got a message along the lines of 'voidsingers try to recruit you but too late realise you are with us, the Owls reward your loyalty', and a governor promotion.


(I only use one mod, historic speed, which shouldn't affect secret societies and doesn't seem to have even been updated since that mode was introduced. I have GS)