Understanding of Hanse

[Stardustfire]

i have a small problem with the Hanse. i seen several posts/videos that state it is good to bring hanse of several citys neighbouring to each other. and im puzzled why this is adviced? exploiting the trade destricts of several citys on several Hanse is clear because the bonus, but the Hanse has no bonus for other Hanse...
are this advices outdated or do i miss something that isnt explained in the game?

[pitonsnaboca]

Originally posted by Stardustfire:

but the Hanse has no bonus for other Hanse...

I think it counts for the "+1 per 2 adjacent districts".
So, if you have a cluster of 3 plots, being 2 hansas and 1 comercial, the total bonus for each hansa will be +3 (+2 from the comercial, +1 from the hansa+comercial).

If you do a google image search for "civ6 hansa" you can easily find diagrams with the examples of several adjacent hansas+comercial districts, and their bonus to production.

[Evrach]

Originally posted by Stardustfire:

i have a small problem with the Hanse. i seen several posts/videos that state it is good to bring hanse of several citys neighbouring to each other. and im puzzled why this is adviced? exploiting the trade destricts of several citys on several Hanse is clear because the bonus, but the Hanse has no bonus for other Hanse...
are this advices outdated or do i miss something that isnt explained in the game?

It's just micro-optimisation. You have to min-max the Hansas multiple bonus to get the best use of them. You don't need the Hansas to be adjacent to each other, but it's sometime a good idea for them to get the same adgency bonus (i.e. to Hansa adjacent to the same aqueduct for exemple.)
Here's a good diagram with diverse configuration you can use to max hansas bonus :
https://forums.civfanatics.com/attachments/hansa-layouts-templates-png.527484/
It's very theorical and you'll have to adapt to your land's possibilities.

[Stardustfire]

Thnx for the answers, the solution in the second row to the left is what appeared at several places and that puzzled me.

[Evrach]

Yeah, that is a typical indus sim you can do this with almost every civilization because it works well with regular industrial zones too. 2 adjacent IZ with aqueducts in diamond.

[Robo]

Originally posted by Evrach:

Here's a good diagram with diverse configuration you can use to max hansas bonus :

Every time I see such opportunity and settle accordingly - 100% of time strategic resource appears under some of the districts before I have the tech or population to place them all :D

[Lemurian1972]

Evrach's answer is perfect. The idea is to maximize the bonus granted by your other infrastructure. Industrial zones get big bonuses from Dams, Aqueducts, and Canals, so you do your best to build as few of those as you need and cluster the Hansa's for several cities near them. You only need one Dam on a river, but if you build several near that, with a couple Aqueducts for the city centers to benefit from the River while being a bit off to the sides, then you get a really strong core of Production, that is easier to defend.

It also benefits you even more later on as you add buildings with Area Effect bonuses. The effects from multiple factories don't stack normally, but if you couple them with a big city with Magnus in it with the correct promotions, then that city can get a huge production and pump out tons of units or settlers or builders very quickly.

[Stardustfire]

like i sayed, the rest was clear to me, i got problems with the fact that 2 Hanse where placed at neighbouring spaces, when the Hanse gets no bonus for other Hanse. given that fact the solution with 2 Trade center are the ones that get neighboured and than a Hanse in each spaces at the sides woud be the more effective solution because no space around the Hanse is "wasted" with a non bonusing neighbour.

[Evrach]

Originally posted by Robo:

Originally posted by Evrach:

Here's a good diagram with diverse configuration you can use to max hansas bonus :

Every time I see such opportunity and settle accordingly - 100% of time strategic resource appears under some of the districts before I have the tech or population to place them all :D

Yeah, sometime a horse can f*ck this up. But it's the only strategic resource you actualy have to reveal to get hansas, aquaducts and commercial hubs. So just don't reveal iron until you made your sim.

Originally posted by Stardustfire:

like i sayed, the rest was clear to me, i got problems with the fact that 2 Hanse where placed at neighbouring spaces, when the Hanse gets no bonus for other Hanse. given that fact the solution with 2 Trade center are the ones that get neighboured and than a Hanse in each spaces at the sides woud be the more effective solution because no space around the Hanse is "wasted" with a non bonusing neighbour.

Still, if there's enough mines, it's often a good idea to let an open tile next to a Hansa and a river to put your rhur later on. With Germany, you will rush industrialisation no matter what, so unless you're in irrel war, you'll be first on the rhur. It's would be a shame to be the first who can build it and have to matching tile.
It can also be a good idea to put the Gvt Plaza somewhere in this district node... but yeah that becomes a little overcrowded here.