please add stalin :)

[Gryphonsclaw]

what i would like for civ 6 is for 2k/4 x to add joseph stalin to be added in civ 6 sence he was one of the most powerefulist leader in russia during ww2. and for a dlc maybye you can add a ww2 scenario like you had in civ 2:).

[Darkwing]

I have a feeling the Man of Steel will be in some future dlc

[Bi0freak]

If they are adding Stalin then Hitler is a must.

[Gryphonsclaw]

we alredy have al leder 4 germany

[andyapolis]

Originally posted by Владимир Путин(тщ:

what i would like for civ 6 is for 2k/4 x to add joseph stalin to be added in civ 6 sence he was one of the most powerefulist leader in russia during ww2. and for a dlc maybye you can add a ww2 scenario like you had in civ 2:).

I don't know if you're trolling or actually serious, but I doubt you'll get Stalin as a playable leader. They had Stalin and Mao in IV, and they had PR problems and complaints here in the US, which is the primary market for the game. I'm old enough to remember actually being shocked at the time to see an article in a magazine (can't remember which one, it was quite a while ago) about how offended people were that they included Stalin in Civ IV.

Stalin might still be popular in Russia, but he's not remembered fondly by a lot of other people in a lot of other markets. Like all of Europe and a fair chunk of the US. It's not worth the controversy and potential loss of sales to the developers.

You might get a WW II scenario though. Prior Civs have either used existing leaders and just changed the names. I seem to remember one of them used dummy flags in place of leaders in the diplomacy screens for some of the scenarios. Can't remember which one it was.

[Piercinald Chase]

Stalin was in Civ IV so it isn't impossible for him to be included for this game as DLC, Hitler however, that'll probably get the game banned in Germany.

[ragingtemper]

BTW Stalin was not leader of Russia but the Soviet Union, and he was Georgian.

[Ocelote.12]

And Catherine II (Catherine the Great) was German.

But of course it would be very strange if a Georgian Stalin settles the first Russian settlement in his first game moves.

[Piercinald Chase]

Doesn't mattter if Stalin was born in Georgia, he command the Soviet Union and is well known for doing such.

[therealjohnconnor]

I agree Stalin would be appropriate for a WW2 scenario (as would Hitler), but generally you'll run into the same PR problems as for the German dictator. Estimates range from 1-10m dead in the Russian gulags.

[cuqeen]

One thing i can't understand, there are many WW2 games, strategy and shooter that mention Hitler or have SS troops and nazi followers who torture-kill people. Are all these games banned in Germany? I don't think so. And every WW2 grand strategy game should be banned in Germany, because everybody knows he is the Hitler himself when he struggles to achieve WW2 Germany world domination.

[SamBC]

Originally posted by cuqeen:

One thing i can't understand, there are many WW2 games, strategy and shooter that mention Hitler or have SS troops and nazi followers who torture-kill people. Are all these games banned in Germany? I don't think so. And every WW2 grand strategy game should be banned in Germany, because everybody knows he is the Hitler himself when he struggles to achieve WW2 Germany world domination.

I believe that you can't have Nazi glorification at all, even arguably, or any imagery etc if you're able to play as Germany.

[Lady Grey]

Every leader has potential controversy (albeit some more than others). Stalin was also Russia's leader in the original Civilization. While he was heinous mass murderer, he still doesn't have the same type of negative connotation as Hitler. Heck, Genghis Khan was one of the most infamous serial rapists in world history, yet there is no backlash to him being a leader.

Personally I think Russia also has some other leaders to explore. I wouldn't mind seeing Peter or Nicholas I, rather than just always Stalin, Lenin, and Catherine .

[JohnDoe2283]

Originally posted by Matimus:

Every leader has potential controversy (albeit some more than others). Stalin was also Russia's leader in the original Civilization. While he was heinous mass murderer, he still doesn't have the same type of negative connotation as Hitler. Heck, Genghis Khan was one of the most infamous serial rapists in world history, yet there is no backlash to him being a leader.

Personally I think Russia also has some other leaders to explore. I wouldn't mind seeing Peter or Nicholas I, rather than just always Stalin, Lenin, and Catherine .

Is it really necessary to reduce the German history to a period of roughly 20 years, where it was ruled by an insane criminal?

[Lady Grey]

I was not advocating for Hitler, I was talking about Stalin.

[Gryphonsclaw]

what are people talking about hitler that is getting off of the topic.