Would Civ6 benefit from being on SSD at all?

[ViciousJawa]

What do you think?

[donald23]

引用自 Gut：

True question is : will it benefit from a RAM drive or not?

Same as for a SSD compared to an HDD. If it's the CPU that's the bottleneck on turn times, it will only help with the initial loading of the game.

[Cyprus Hillbilly]

I use an SSD for my boot drive and a PCIE SSD for my data... definitely helps, especially if you save and reload regularly, like I do.

[Shane]

civ always benefits from better CPUs

[Jubblator]

引用自 Aliin：

引用自 Jubblator：

I wouldnt install any game on a SSD (unless you use it exclusively for games) since they have a limit on the amount of times data can be recorded on them, then they go kaputt and you cant use em anymore or retrieve the data.

This is not entirely ture anymore. While sectors on an SSD do have a limited write/read cycle; TRIMM is now a standard feature on any SSD you buy nowadays which allows the writing and reading to "used"sectors and will favor writing to those "used" sectors then writing data to a new sector. Also, TRIMM now moves data from sectors that are near their lifespan to new ones if need be, so data loss isn't really an issue anymore.Used to be flagging sectors for overwrite (AKA deleting something) would flag that sector as "used" and the SSD would favor writing data to new sectors. I've got an SSD that's 5 years old and have only 12% of the sectors flagged as unusable.

Oh thats cool then! Well then if you can afford a big enough SSD looks like Go for it! then ^^

[Jingles]

I was wondering the same thing. I was getting tired of the long wait times between turns and noticed a lot of drive activity during these times. I have just uninstalled and reinstalled on my SSD and it certainly is quicker. I wouldn't say it is amazing but the game is definitely smoother.

[ambershee]

There should be no drive activity between turns.

Once you've launched a game, all assets and game data is stored in memory, so the limitation is in CPU ability. The only time you'd be using the hard disk is if you don't have sufficient memory.

[blkbutterfly]

SSD is great. Game startup is faster. Quick reloads. I reload a lot.

I might've developed some sort of RSI in my hand/wrist. Unit movement is often tricky for me. I frequently "misclick" in Civ VI. That is give a unit wrong instructions, cos I thought it was another unit (cos the game cycled) or whatever. SSD takes some of the pain out of that

[Limygeorge]

HDDs are great for archives, pics and video. Any program and of course the operationg system will be far better on an SSD to varying degrees.

The short live issue is no longer true. Google it, find legit tests, and it's obvious that for the last two or three years SDDS last just as long as an HDD. It's probably longer now as long as trim is enabled, you don't fill it up and have a modern OS.

I recommend Samsung. No need for the Pro (although I have one older 840 pro - works a charm, heavy use for a few years, good as new. Now i use the EVO as they are cheaper and from my several years of using these SSDs 840s, then the newer 850s it would be quite impossible to go back to HDD.

Of course price is still an issue, and HDD will always have a place for data storage. But for the OS, and majority of programs - forget HDD. The difference between speed of the two disk types is night and day.

I didn't think anyone ran their OS off an HDD anymore. If someone is upgrading to an SSD is the single biggest instantly noticable speed increase.

Of course CPU GPU memory are all important too and play different roles in different programs games etc., but seriously Win 10 or 8,1, even 7 - I just cannot imagine going back to HDD for that. Still as said HDDs are great huge cheap storage drives.

One thing though. There are still a few cheaper less reliable SDDS out there. OCZ is fast, but numerous failure rate. Mine busted after a month too, but that was two years ago.

Best spend a little more and get a good brand. I like Samsung, but San Disk amazing value.
Crucial (used to use the old M4) have a good reputation too. Intel are no frills but never had one fail. But IMO Samsung are the best, and have their own software and firmware updater too. But I believe you pay for what you get. (in theory!)

Finally, the more memory a game uses, and the less your PC has (both RAM and VRAM) the more critical to get an SSD. Constant disk reads, page filing etc. The difference between the two is just huge and instantely noticable, especially on a PC with 2 GB VRAM, only 4 GB DDR3. Night and say, seriously. But yep, for storage, massive TBs of storage HDDs can't be beat. The price difference doesn't warrant an SSD for storage. But it's almost a must for a fast OS, boot time. programs running well including games, but it varies depending on factors mentioned.

[katzenkrimis]

引用自 GreyWolf_19：

Aliin is correct on how things have changes.

I have about the same 12% used of flagged sectors and this PC is now over 5 years old.

Yes, it's crazy people are still talking about an SSD possibly dying on them, as if they are made like Duracell batteries.

Games that benefit greatly from an SSD, are games like Total War.

The turn times are very fast. All those faction turns just zoom by.

I have an SSD. The turn times are fast in Civilization 6. But you can also load the game quicker. By the time Bean gets to his second sentence, you can start playing. You don't have to listen to his BS speech every time. That's the greatest benefit.

But if you want a good gaming experience, you really need the whole package.

RAM, processor, and video card. The SSD is just a small treat.

[Dray Prescot]

I Have 2 SSDs, an older 120 GB for Windows 10 and system software, a newer 480 GB one for Steam and other Games (I use over 150 GB on that SSD), but I have my saved game directories redirected from my C drive (i.e. everything under Users) to my Hard drive so as to not have my saved games, Mods, etc use up my SSD s too fast. It is easy with Windows (7,8, or 10) to change where a file gets stored from the default location to another drive and still have your game programs still think it is on your C drive where they want to put and find things. The only problem is your hard drive wanting to shut down for not enough (recent) use, and then taking longer for it to come back up to speed when you want to save a turn. Since your programs are on an SSD any loading and saving of their normal program files while operating go to the SSD and will not keep your hard drive running, so the HD has a tendency to shut down.

I can get my computer booted up and running even with Windows 10 in less than a minute with my SSD, and Steam games are also several times faster loading.

Just make sure you have a back up of your SSD(s), on your Hard Drive and elsewhere. There are too many malwares running round on the Internet. I have picked up two serious ones in 3 years, only the first required me wipping my SSD boot drive to get rid of it.