can i build the great library with hammurabi?

[itaysh82]

can i build the great library with hammurabi?
thanks.

[Stormwinds]

Yes, why wouldn't you be able to?

[itaysh82]

it's the second game i'm unable to build it with all the rquirements met. i have a campus with a library and an adjacent tile with flat land, i have learnd recorded history and the great library doesn't appear on the city build menu. no other civ has build it yet.

[Oaks]

All civs should be able to build all wonders as far as I know.

[Drenus]

Mod issue, is the first obvious answer

Failing that, if it doesn't show up in the wonder list, then someone already built it, and you likely just missed the notification about it

[Stormwinds]

Originally posted by Drenus:

If it doesn't show up in the wonder list, then someone already built it, and you likely just missed the notification about it

This. I've found that sometimes the notifications don't show up. AI loves Great Library, so you have to get lucky to be able to build it.

[Sticky Wicket]

Is there forest or jungle on the hex? cause unless you have the tech to remove you can't build it there yet.

[itaysh82]

Originally posted by Sticky Wicket:

Is there forest or jungle on the hex? cause unless you have the tech to remove you can't build it there yet.

i had all the techs needed. i was able to build it in a new game so i guess the ai build it in my previous game but i didn't get the notification.

[plaguepenguin]

I can't think of any explanation that hasn't already been mentioned for this problem building the Great Library, but that's not going to keep me from pointing out that there is less to it for Babylon than might appear.

The top line effect of this wonder is that it gives you all the eurekas for all Ancient and Classical era techs. Since Babylon unlocks the tech just for getting the eureka, that seems huge at first glance. Well, the advantage is much less than it first appears, because none of those techs have really hard or out of the way eurekas. Later in the game, plenty of techs do have difficult eurekas, but not in these two eras. Maybe this is not quite so for the top of the tree, the maritime techs, if you are not settling coastal cities, but if you're not, you don't need that top tier until after the Classical Era. If you are settling on the coast, those techs are easy to boost. Because this wonder, as has been mentioned, is pursued by the AI, you really have to go so far out of your way to build it that just doing the scavenger hunts for each individual tech boost is probably going to get all the boosts you need more easily.

That said, the wonder has some other effects that are useful in addition to its top line effect. It gives a Great Writer point and two slots for works of writing, and culture is especially important to Babylon. It gets you a random tech boost every time another player expends a Great Scientist, but the one time I went for this wonder as Babylon, it very consistently gave me the boost for the cheapest tech I didn't have yet. Not once did this happen to be a tech with a difficult eureka to obtain, and a tech that I had any use for -- but that was only one game, and I am not sure exactly how the Great Library chooses the random tech it boosts when that other civ uses a Great Scientist

[Sarisin]

I play Hammarabi often. I fine that as stated the AI tends to beeline Great Library so I ignore it, especially when I have to build a few military units to deal with pesky barbs. As a consolation prize I find most (not all) AI civs tend to ignore the Oracle and I can usually build that. It may not be as good as the Great Library, but it does give you a big boost in producing Great People - usually in your capital where you can build more districts. It is not unusual to be popping out Great People very regularly when you can build that Campus, Encampment, and Industrial district. Those Great Scientists are extremely helpful in allowing you to keep up with tech. In fact, I have had games where I am able to get much more advanced military units due to hitting the free techs from Great Scientists.

Of course, if this happens, while you are ahead on military techs, you might have beaucoup turns needs to get lesser econ, social, etc. techs. And you might not have the required techs to get the resources necessary to build those advance units. If you do have those, you can have a quick path to a Domination Victory.