Questions about combined units (forming Corps/fleet)

[RyansPlace]

Nationalism Civic "Allows forming two identical units into a Corps or fleet."

1. Do corps/fleet units still recieve promotions? In CivRev, they seem to stop receiving experience and promotions after being combined.

2. Does corpss/fleet unit upkeep cost change for combined units or does the pentelty remain as if they're still two individual units?

3. Is there a way to split a Corps/fleet once it's formed or are the units married for life?

I scoured the wiki and couldn't find any info on this.

[Kettlepot]

Hey Ryan, when I used my General to turn a RIfleman into a "Rifleman Corp" it just increased its strength rating by like 15% or something like that. It didn't ask me to combine units or anything like that, and I couldn't stack other non-support units onto the Rifleman Corp.
I've never played Civ Rev before, but I don't think the "Corp" concept is the same across the two games. This seems just like a one-unit buff that you're suppose to burn on a veteran unit.

[RyansPlace]

Originally posted by Kettlepot:

Hey Ryan, when I used my General to turn a RIfleman into a "Rifleman Corp" it just increased its strength rating by like 15% or something like that. It didn't ask me to combine units or anything like that, and I couldn't stack other non-support units onto the Rifleman Corp.
I've never played Civ Rev before, but I don't think the "Corp" concept is the same across the two games. This seems just like a one-unit buff that you're suppose to burn on a veteran unit.

Thanks for responding. I haven't discovered the general ability yet (I haven't gotten that far). After discovering Nationalism Civic you can form two identical units into a Corps or fleet. I can't find any details on it. I edited the origional post for clarity.

[Apoc]

1. It's pretty much a unit with a bonus Strength, they still have promotions, not sure how it decide which one it keep when combining. It's probably safer not to combine old units together.

2. I'm not sure how it affect upkeep.

3. No they are stuck together until the end.

[Complaintdesk]

RyansPlace said, "3. Is there a way to split a Corps/fleet once it's formed or are the units married for life?"

Answer: Once a Corps, Army, Fleet or Armada has been formed, the units may NOT be broken apart into their individual units again.

[gimmethegepgun]

Originally posted by Complaintdesk:

RyansPlace said, "3. Is there a way to split a Corps/fleet once it's formed or are the units married for life?"

Answer: Once a Corps, Army, Fleet or Armada has been formed, the units may NOT be broken apart into their individual units again.

This was already answered, in this thread, almost 4 years ago.

[Complaintdesk]

In this thread my friend, his 3rd question was not answered. I answered it because I had the same question, and my query brought me to this thread, which did not answer it. So after some research I found the answer, and thought I would contribute for those like me playing now, might have a specific answer to that specific question. Good to see the thread police haven't been defunded ...

[tempest.of.emptiness]

Originally posted by Complaintdesk:

In this thread my friend, his 3rd question was not answered.

Originally posted by Apoc:

3. No they are stuck together until the end.

I'm sorry you missed that the first time you read the thread, but yes, your question was already answered four years ago, in the last post of the thread.

However, it was thoughtful of you to try to add a missing answer to the thread, so thanks for that.

[captainpatch]

I'm not sure just how well players understand just how little benefit is gained by merging full-strength units in Corps and Armies.

Example: You have ground combat unit, Strength 25. Add another identical unit, and separately they total 50 Combat Strength. Merged into a Corps, they combined have a Combat Strength of 30.... and overall Strength loss of 20. Merge in another (originally 25 + 25 + 25) and the new Army unit has a Combat Strength of 40. That's an overall loss of 35. The ONE benefit you gain is that you now have a greater one-tile Combat Strength. (Actually, two. If the dominant unit has a greater number of promotions, then the weaker unit merging in benefits promotion-wise.)

Keep in mind that the game tracks a Domination victory by your combined unit Combat Strength. When you merge units, you actually reduce your Domination score.

[gimmethegepgun]

Originally posted by captainpatch:

I'm not sure just how well players understand just how little benefit is gained by merging full-strength units in Corps and Armies.

Example: You have ground combat unit, Strength 25. Add another identical unit, and separately they total 50 Combat Strength. Merged into a Corps, they combined have a Combat Strength of 30.... and overall Strength loss of 20. Merge in another (originally 25 + 25 + 25) and the new Army unit has a Combat Strength of 40. That's an overall loss of 35.

Total combat strength is irrelevant in combat. What matters is the difference between the combat strengths of the units involved.
Also your numbers are wrong anyway. Corps gives +10 and army gives another +7 for a total of +17.

The ONE benefit you gain is that you now have a greater one-tile Combat Strength.

Yes, which is very relevant when you can only have 1 unit per tile.

Keep in mind that the game tracks a Domination victory by your combined unit Combat Strength. When you merge units, you actually reduce your Domination score.

Score doesn't give a very good idea of how dangerous your military is.