The 25th Dynasty

[mrmike_49]

"Playing as Nubia, liberate the original Egyptian capital in a liberation war with the capital's conqueror"

so is this while playing a regular game as Nubia? Anyone got this one yet? Does it mean I have to let the capital get conquered first?

[Abalister]

You play as Nubia, you let the Egyptian capital get conquered by an enemy, and once it's done, through the casus belli options, you declare a liberation war against that enemy and then liberate the conquered capital. I remember that It was a very tough achievement to do.

[mrmike_49]

thnx
gonna play as Nubia, first time, maybe I'll wait for a later game to try for the 25th

[Abalister]

Originally posted by mrmike_49:

thnx
gonna play as Nubia, first time, maybe I'll wait for a later game to try for the 25th

I remember getting this achievement by starting a game where we were 3 players. Me (Nubia), Egypt and Aztecs. I let them fight between the 2, and Aztecs did conquer Egypt. Then, it's a matter of waiting to unlock the proper technologies (for the casus belli), and going for the liberation. I was on setller mode, no barbarians, no city-states, on a small map. Aztecs were close to Egypt and they had no barbarians to fight or city-states to conquer, they went for Egypt pretty fast.

[mrmike_49]

sounds like a good plan, I was trying to figure out some way to get "someone" to attack Egypt. Be luck of the draw if the Aztecs: 1) are closer to Egypt than to Nubia, 2) are strong enough to conquer Egypt. "Reveal All" will help there!

[mrmike_49]

Well, bummer: Egypt and Aztecs allied against me! That made it "really hard" to "liberate" Egypt's capital. Maybe I can capture it, give it to Aztecs, then later take it back?

[Abalister]

Originally posted by mrmike_49:

Well, bummer: Egypt and Aztecs allied against me! That made it "really hard" to "liberate" Egypt's capital. Maybe I can capture it, give it to Aztecs, then later take it back?

No idea if it's gonna work! Too bad they allied together against you. Mind you, I did this achievement before the latest patches, maybe the AI is programmed more aggressively than it used to be.

[ocawna]

I just got the achievement a few seconds ago. Here's how I did it:

Taking Abalister's advice, I started the game on Prince, on a Duel, Pangea map with no barbarians or city states. I also started in the Renaissance era so I wouldn't have to play through the older ages. Part way through the game, both Egypt and Sumeria allied against me. It didn't last long and they didn't accomplish anything. After they wanted peace, I allied with Sumeria, declared war on Egypt, and bombarded Ra-Kedet until it had no health. Sumeria then waltzed in and took the city (I could easily have taken it but I waited until Sumeria did). I then made peace and eventually allied with Egypt. Sumeria gradually grew displeased with me (we'd been spying on each other) and, after denouncing Gilgamesh, I declared a war of liberation and took back Ra-Kedet to get the achievement.

[ocawna]

One odd turn of events: while trying to get the 25th Dynasty achievement, I also went for the Pyramid Scheme. I got six bonuses on my Nubian pyramid, but I didn't unlock the achievement . . . . Does anyone have advice for triggering it?

[ocawna]

Update: I believe you need to construct the pyramid first - I just got the achievement this way

[Altonu]

Yeah, I know this is an old thread, but I've found this to be one of the most difficult achievements in the game that I have attempted to get so far, and now that I finally got it after many new games, I wanted to add my observations which may have been hinted at, but not directly stated.

If you are alies with Egypt, and someone declares war on them (and takes their capital), you will auto-join the war, but the achievement requires a war of liberation, so if this happens and you liberate the city, that is not good enough.

The important part is to build up a friendship with Egypt but NOT become allies with them until they are attacked by a foe with a chance to take their capital. Once they are attacked, it is then safe to become allies with them, but best to "ally" when you are prepared to strike in case the ally status expires before you are ready.

It is also worth noting that a war of liberation requires the usual denouncement period, so thats helpful to keep in mind too.

I'm not sure if its required for Egypt to have a surviving city, but I made it a point to have open borders and surround one of their cities with builders to help protect it (cheesy, yes, but it can be helpful to do at times).

The hard parts were getting Egypt to be friendly enough to be an ally, and getting someoen stronger to attack them without me getting involved (and thus spoiling my favorable status with Egypt), and of course getting both in the same game is even harder and why it took me many attempts even after understanding what I needed to do. For me, having Egypt trigger an emergency (rise and fall expansion) helped set things in motion for my success.

[mycroft113]

Originally posted by ocawna:

I just got the achievement a few seconds ago. Here's how I did it:

Taking Abalister's advice, I started the game on Prince, on a Duel, Pangea map with no barbarians or city states. I also started in the Renaissance era so I wouldn't have to play through the older ages. Part way through the game, both Egypt and Sumeria allied against me. It didn't last long and they didn't accomplish anything. After they wanted peace, I allied with Sumeria, declared war on Egypt, and bombarded Ra-Kedet until it had no health. Sumeria then waltzed in and took the city (I could easily have taken it but I waited until Sumeria did). I then made peace and eventually allied with Egypt. Sumeria gradually grew displeased with me (we'd been spying on each other) and, after denouncing Gilgamesh, I declared a war of liberation and took back Ra-Kedet to get the achievement.

Thanks Abalister, Ocawna & Altonu: After trying other ways, these tips worked yesterday even after GS and Maya & Gran Columbia; made sure a remaining Eqyptian city / cities existed to build up Friendship / Alliance. (Had to give Eqypt an inconsequential city to help with the general effort!)